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They know that.
They're not disagreeing with that.
There's literally no evidence of this.
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They know that.
They're not disagreeing with that.
There's literally no evidence of this.
When replying to Decieved calling Totsuka Blade a spiritual weapon that has no physical form, you said that there was no proof, did you not?None of the staff have said anything "blatantly wrong."
There's literally no evidence of this.
They never said "everything they said is wrong"I have to say that Deagonx is correct.
We can't just conjecture our way into it having Limited Durability Negation, we have to have some degree of evidence, not just logically sound guesses.
Bruh you are ignoring Totsuka’s feats with Nagato.His points were easy to read, plus ik him offsite so I've been hearing only 1 side for a while.
Totsuka Blade is a spiritual blade.
They know that.
They're not disagreeing with that.
But the Totsuka blade doesn't act like a durability negating blade.
It doesn't phase through opponents, it physically harms them, and blood can rest on the blade.
The databook is honestly flat out wrong at that point saying it has no physical form when it can physically interact with others, can have regular blood interact with it, and is also called liquid by the databook as well.
Now, that "cut down any enemy" argument is such bs.
Kinshiki has dura neg for being able to obliterate all things?
What about Temari who can "eliminate any enemy that stands in her way"?
Same for Madara cutting down all things?
Or nobody inverse standing a chance to Sasuke's speed?
Maybe Kakashi's Raikiri being able to cut through anything?
That argument is just trying to quantify hyperbole. It shouldn't count.
On top of that, can yall chill tf out?
That he stabbed him and sealed him?Bruh you are ignoring Totsuka’s feats with Nagato.
Is the page your mentioning the one I linked? I likely got the raw somewhere maybe.I believe in Japanese one of the spellings for "soul" is also used for "mind". Would be better to check the raws on that.
I meant in general. Sometimes when Japanese write "soul", it can also be "mind". Whoever made the translation you showed likely went with the "mind" interpretation, as "consciousness".Is the page your mentioning the one I linked? I likely got the raw somewhere maybe.
That’s my point we can’t disregard a blatant “it’s a spiritual blade “ statement made multiple times cause it has blood on it which might have also been affected by the Totsuka sealing ability.That he stabbed him and sealed him?
Same exact thing as Orochimaru.
Only thing different is that edos don't have blood drawn from opposing attacks, so we can't really see how it would interact if he was flesh and blood.
We can disregard databook statements if a manga showing says otherwise.That’s my point we can’t disregard a blatant “it’s a spiritual blade “ statement made multiple times cause it has blood on it which might have also been affected the Totsuka sealing ability.
There is nothing that shows it says otherwise though , no evidence. The cutting of any enemy can mean its spiritual nature being able to affect the enemy on a spiritual level.We can disregard databook statements if a manga showing says otherwise.
the damn bloodThere is nothing that shows it says otherwise though , no evidence.
headcanoncause it has blood on it which might have also been affected by the Totsuka sealing ability.
Bruh like I said there is nothing in that panel that says it couldn't have also Absorbed the '' damn blood".the damn blood
headcanon
the totsuka blade turns things it seals into spiritual matter, which is why the physical snakes absorbed into it transformed into spiritual matter
it would've turned orange and merged with the blade, which it didn't even start to do yet
don't ignore the antifeats and uplift the supports and say that it's "clear cut" and "no evidence otherwise"
that goes for everyone in here for both sides
Nobody said it didn't absorb the blood.Bruh like I said there is nothing in that panel that says it couldn't have also Absorbed the '' damn blood".
It's like me saying cause I cut you with a conceptual blade and the only thing noticeable was " Physical damage" it didn't affect you on a conceptual level.
There are no anti-feats from what I have seen rereading it, It even supports it by saying it can seal anything( possibly blood included).
Am not trying to just side the OP , its logical and something that can be easily deduced from that , Unless there is appropriate evidence to show Otherwise.
Check that scan again , The blood was getting absorbed it (which made it look like it was Resting) , You can even see the blood flowing more towards the Totsuka blade(moving from the left side to the right side).Nobody said it didn't absorb the blood.
I said the blood rested on the blade.
The blade produced blood and blood rested on the blade prior to being sealed.
It doesn't appear that you even really understand his point.The blood was getting absorbed it (which made it look like it was Resting) , You can even see the blood flowing more towards the Totsuka blade(moving from the left side to the right side).
His point is the blood is resting on the totsuka blade making it's spiritual nature not so ''accurate''.It doesn't appear that you even really understand his point.
No. Christ.His point is the blood is resting on the totsuka blade making it's spiritual nature not so ''accurate''.
Bruh like I said just because a conceptual weapon damaged you physically with evidence dosent mean it wouldn't also conceptually, IF it is truly Physical it shouldn't even be able to interact with souls to seal them away.No. Christ.
His point is that it does not phase through opponents, it physically interacts with the world. As evidence by the fact that the blood literally got smeared on it.
...which is why we agreed with Soul Manip via Sealing alongside NPIBruh like I said just because a conceptual weapon damaged you physically dosent mean it wouldn't also conceptually, IF it is truly Physical it shouldn't even be able to interact with souls to seal them away.
There's no evidence whatsoever that the Totsuka blade damages someone's spirit or any such nonsense.Bruh like I said just because a conceptual weapon damaged you physically dosent mean it wouldn't also conceptually,
It has an embedded sealing Jutsu, the blade itself doesn't interact with souls.IF it is truly Physical it shouldn't even be able to interact with souls to seal them away.
Y’all will see somebody get killed and say “spiritual BFR, can send people to hell by killing them”
Soul Manipulation means to be able to affect souls , it's a spiritual blade by nature and it's been stated multiple times to be so .There's no evidence whatsoever that the Totsuka blade damages someone's spirit or any such nonsense.
It has an embedded sealing Jutsu, the blade itself doesn't interact with souls.
Limited durability neg would still follow the context as it can only truly affect beings with souls....which is why we agreed with Soul Manip via Sealing alongside NPI
The manga also says the Totsuka Blade has no physical formWe can disregard databook statements if a manga showing says otherwise.
Are all naruto threads like this? I feel like I'm talking at several brick walls at once.A lost cause tbh
Yeah every single one after maybe March 2022Are all naruto threads like this? I feel like I'm talking at several brick walls at once.
KT my boy you are incorrect, my threads have been pretty decentYeah every single one after maybe March 2022
Old gen Naruto scalers actually had good threads
The OP ≠ the supporters of their OPsKT my boy you are incorrect, my threads have been pretty decentso far.
I was gonna try to make a long post on this tomorrow but it seems minds are made up tbh.
what do you think of Soul Manipulation via Sealing and NPI for now?Look at me! I'm a Mod again!
With just those I agree the evidence is lackluster. But it's not just that.The point is that it doesn't ignore damn durability
Because yall act like since it's a spiritual tool that can "cut down any enemy", it needs dura neg
The proof for durability negation is dogshit
...How is that a reach in logic? If it can deflect all things, it can defend from all things, so it has infinite durability. Maybe durability isn't the right word for it since it doesn't have conventional durability, but my point is just that no attack can breach it. And again, this is backed up by multiple statements. There's the Zetsu one, there's the statement in the databook that it can repel any attack, that all attacks lose their meaning against it, and that it can change every one of its properties to negate incoming attacks,Yata Mirror: Deflect all things
You: Infinite Durability
This is exactly why I'm skeptical about this. These reaches in logic.
That perfect irrefutable statement doesn't exist. If it did, we wouldn't be spending so much time arguing linguistics on these statements. Evidence doesn't need to be objective to be valid. At some point, when there's enough consistency, big statements stop being hyperbole and start to just be true. If there were say 100 statements all along the lines of what has been presented so far, would you just call that hyperbole too and dismiss it? I mean you could, but it'd be pretty absurd. Even 7 is a pretty insane number for just 2 different pages of evidence.Find me a statement of it negating durability and it just not being something that can be chalked up to a simple hyperbole