Issues with Immeasurable Speed in Ben 10

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Did you all actually read my argument? I’ve said it many many many times. Sure, it’s traveling, but not at the speed you all thought it was. You can still achieve those feat without NECESSARILY moving at Immeasurable Speed.

I did.

Whether it involves traveling or not doesn’t really disregard the argument that it’s range rather than speed at that level. Sure, logic suggests that it has to be moving at that speed, but as I’ve said numerous times, this is fiction. The number of times fiction ignores logic and fails to account for such details is innumerable, just like how characters can move in timeless space or travel at FTL speeds which should be logically impossible. So, while logic says you can’t achieve that feat with just range and no speed at that level, fictional logic says otherwise.

Your entire point hinge on it being range. That does not work. It traveled.

And your point on it not being Immeasurable is outright disproven by the fact that it affected the Hypertimeline, which would mean it's Immeasurable.

You haven't disproved or actually gave something meaningfully about it not being that speed other than the fact it could be achieved by range, which is useless unless you prove it was done by range.

Try to look at it objectively. This is not an outlier, it simply means y'all are incorrect.

Calling everybody who gave the go including the staff who are knowledgeable on the subject wrong is incredibly irritating.

The feat is Immeasurable, this has been discussed to death.

Nobody said 100%.

Doesn't matter. If it has any speed and it affected the Hypertimeline then it's Immeasurable.

You haven't gave evidence of it having range to begin with, and range itself is just being "can you reach that far", the fact it traveled there would debunk your point, since it traveled that far and affected it.

 

[Worthless]

Yada

It really feels like my argument hasn’t reached anyone. And Qaw hasn’t really seen everything, including all reasoning that pinpoint its flaws, and he still hasn’t responded to my question.

You can still achieve those feat without NECESSARILY moving at Immeasurable Speed.

Range can already make it possible. "But logic says" Logic says moving in timeless space should be impossible, logic says FTL speeds shouldn't be possible, and logic says light cannot exist without photons. I've provided these examples to illustrate my perspective on the core argument of Immeasurable Speed, which is: "It travels, and logic says it has to be moving at that speed." But, nobody seems to grasp it. We have strong evidence against it, but apparently, it's PIS because a bunch of power scalers says so.

 

[Forthegood]

This thread could go on forever, so let's agree to disagree and let the admins determine the outcome.

 

[TheShape03]

This thread could go on forever, so let's agree to disagree and let the admins determine the outcome.

Staff members seeing that they have to evaluate another Ben 10 thread:

 

[Huesito88]

Bump

 

[GeneralSol16]

I have some issues regarding Immeasurable Speed in Ben 10.

The main argument was basically this, but the issue is that you can also achieve that with range. None of the evidence shown in the profile actually states or demonstrate that "it spans across multiple spatiotemporal dimensions" due to sheer speed rather than range.

Is a physical blast, an energy thing, that means speed.

This is further contradicted by the fact that even normal aliens could react to the Annihilarg before it engulfed them, despite its eventual growth to destroy their entire universe

The Annihilargh with Inmemsurable speed is when the Annihilargh is on a void, the one that creates universes, not the one that ddestroyes them.

Galactic it Gladiator that could keep up with Alien X being unable to escape from a Black Hole.

Dude, you're trying to use a Reality Warped Black Hole, that was able to harm a being valable of affecting multiversed, and obviously doesn't follow the rules of a real BH, to "debunk" the speed? That's just wrong, lmao.

To begin with, the scenes where this is shown don't depict speed at all, to say otherwise is to deliberately distort the scene to arrive at such conclusion.

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral: @Lloydblitzed

 

[Huesito88]

Bump

 

[Firestorm808]

Shall I close this thread? Nothing new has been brought up so far.

 

[Hellformer]

Shall I close this thread? Nothing new has been brought up so far.

Sure