Ehhh dunno, he can easily dodge when it’s still 2–4 kilometers away ig, but if it’s less than 1 km, he should get hit. He can only run like a athletic human (baseline athletic it seems), so he can not dash 80 meters away from a slash coming at him in seconds. His Desire thing only makes him comparable to Kokken, so mass destruction stuff still hurt. She still has a chance even if it’s low I suppose
Geats' Empowerment actually just makes him on par with his opponent; if he's outstatted in some way, his desires will allow him to be on equal grounds with his opponents and give them a run for their money, unlike my other Rider submission that can go 3x his AP due to his actual RPL. And as with both of them, they do not happen immediately. Give them a very dire situation, a life or death kind of shtick and it'd accelerate. It can be argued that Geats' desire (which is the strongest in his respective series) will allow him to be empowered faster but by no means is he going to be like that just a few minutes in.
Geats' supernatural luck is minor because it only serves to inconvenience and mildly annoy the opponent; it doesn't match the scale of the likes of Higashikawa or Ladybug's charm. What his luck brings is completely limited by the environment that Ace will be in. It also relies on Ace's surrounding and the potency of his luck can summon outside help at its maximum, which it can't happen in matches anyway. This won't save his ass from certain defeat as seen when this version of Ace in this scan who can only rely on his luck to get out of a sticky situation gets absorbed by the villains. The OG Ace himself has canonically died by screwing up, and his luck wasn't there to save him at that point.
I assume that Geats would have his speed equalised to Kokken, no? Since the whole tourney turned into a speed equal one.
That should be his speed untransformed.
His Supersonic+ section only mentions that he dodged bullets, so not sure if it also includes travel speed. I guess we should just ask the KR fellas lol
What he meant by "all around" is that the pfp might indicate he is Supersonic+ in both combat and travel speed. So when speed is equalized, both of these speeds get multiply up or down. This is important because if his travel speed scale to his combat, he could cover the entire 4 km in exactly 10 secs
Cool, so when transformed, is he just slightly above athletic human's running speed or does he become Mach >2 all around?
Yeah, but for dodging an 80m wide attack, it's still relevant what his travel speed is, and that isn't equalised, it's just moved proportionally.
Just saying this in case, but if his travel speed doesn’t scale to his combat, personally i think Kokken still has a chance, perhaps at worst five percent like the rules suggest. He's ~1.5 times weaker than her at first, and there are other reasons I stated above. So Geats can still stay aye
In a tourney where someone can tear apart the space the target inhabits and all in all warp space-time and a rat can have an entire army with the chockful of haxes that is packed into warpstone, I think a guy who can dodge well can very well have a place to stay and belong. Also Geats doesn't get AnPr until he uses the Magnum Buckle.
I'm not clear on this, can you please explain?
I've been pointed out that Geats is able to physically move out of Dapaan's bullets and the latter's combat speed is supersonic+ and has AnPr due to Magnum Form. Would that be considered as travel speed or does it still remain in the realms of combat/reaction speed?
Yeah okay so he'd probably be slow enough for Kokken to take some wins.
This tourney's a bit of an experiment, trying to decide who can enter by some relatively hard-and-fast criteria (who can lose to the tiersetter), rather trying to subjectively decide which entries are fair.
That also makes things more fair!
If an attack is 80 meters wide, and you move as fast as that attack, and you can't predict that attack before it is made, then you would become unable to dodge it when it's 40 meters away, as you wouldn't be able to cross the 40 meter gap necessary to be outside of its AoE before it would hit you.
Still combat/reaction I'd say.
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Technically, if he's only using Magnum Form. Geats Riders can mix and match buckles and use two buckles at once, though which Buckle becomes which part of his armor depends on the placement of his buckles. He can go into Magnum Form only or use it together with Monster Form by putting the magnum on the left or right side of his belt. This is Geats using Monster on his right side and Magnum on his left side. Utilising Monster and Magnum in this order allows him to keep his AP/Dura while benefitting from Magnum's abilities like his range. The same can be said for when he uses Magnum for his upper body armor and Monster lower body armor.
Just letting you know now, Geats Monster Form can do this via his elasticity and density manip exclusive to Monster Buckle. Though this takes a while to activate and is only seen being used against a megazord-sized opponent, so he usually won't use this in one vs one threads (so Kokken won't be seeing any fists coming her way in the desert). And increasing the size of his fists also gives his enemies a bigger target to attack if they're ready.
This looks tens of meters rather than something like a hundred. I can see Isamu's projectiles going for hundreds but his spider arms don't look to be able to go that far.
The Monster Buckle on its own is stronger than the other regular buckles in terms of the stat it brings. Using it in tandem with other buckles (in this case, the Magnum) allows Geats's stats to be dictated by the stronger buckle, hence his low 7-C stats are applied to his whole arsenal, including his Magnum Shooter (which is only 8-B when he's using it untransformed or in his non-monster rider forms, save for Boost which is another can of worms that doesn't need to be opened here). Otherwise, it's like saying Geats Monster Form is just donning a low 7-C armor while his exposed non-monster parts are still being an 8-B body in AP and durability, which isn't the case.
Geats has hundreds of meters melee combat range?
With his gun yes.
I'm not saying that his durability is lower, he is transforming after all, just that his projectiles from the Magnum Buckle might be.
Oh right. Normally Melee (or extended melee) without his other abilities.
I mean, sure, but that just makes him a bigger target to get frozen, riddled with holes, or cut up.
The monster buckle gives the users monster-class striking power (for his fists only) and fighting ability in general, and if it somehow doesn't affect Magnum Shooter, it'd definitely affect his armored guns on his wrists or shins depending on where its armor is formed at, since it's apart of the body rather than a separate equipment (even then the Magnum Booster is actually part of the Magnum Buckle, which is the one being enhanced in the first place). This should also apply to his forcefields via the Magnum Buckle. Better yet, Magnum Shooter also allows Geats to insert any buckle into it to enhance his attacks so it'll make sense that Geats can boost the AP of his gun by inserting the Monster Buckle into it and also hypothetically utilise its elasticity and density manip (though it's not shown because he hasn't used it like that in series).
It's actually not just the Monster Buckle; Buckles stronger than the Monster Buckle are shown to boost those weaker than it, as seen when this random GM Rider uses Magnum with a Jyamato Buckle (which is far stronger than any other buckles at that point of the story) is able to significantly damage this Rider who's at the top tiers at the time, being able to no-sell these two. Hence my statement.
Firstly, this is assuming all his gear wouldn't just fly from the sheer force of the punch since it was able to launch this guy up into the air who at his maximum weights 71100000 kg. None of his attacks are going to stop Geats' fist from flying right at him and even if it does, his whole arm is large and just flick his gear away with his fingers.
