Iron Fist Vs Natsu Dragneel

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1. Like Iron fist is so strong he will just ignore the flames and run through them? Yeah, right. Even with absorption he would be costrected to stay still, assuming he could even absorb a similar amount which I highly doubt considering he never did from what I know.

3. Jump? Watch Acnologia vs igneel to see how far Natsu can go into the sky and then tell me if this guy can jump as much. Also kinda hard to jump after him while Natsu spams his flames attacks on him.

4. I am fine with that.

5. Hide from Natsu's nose? Not happening. Natsu was able to track Erza and Mirajane when they were dozens of kilometers away from him and they were also in sky and not on ground so tracking Iron fist who is several dozens of meters away from him at best is a joke. He used his nose to track Jellal who previously blitzed him easily.

It's a causal battle, no one goes 100% serious and bloodlusted in a casual(sometimes even in serious) battle. And using a hypnotic punch without a reason is also too much of an assumption.

Of course thou we could keep this up for quite a while, but in the end it would just go into circles where we explain what each can do so let's just agree that we disagree on who wins and that's it.

 

[Schnee_One]

1. Yes, he can dash through flames at Mach 800, and without issue. No idiot would let flames block them from getting to their target especially when they're not a threat to you, and IF has no problem taking minor damage to get his target where he likes it.

3. It's not about how High, it's about IF getting their in time which he can, emphasis on can, will he is a toss up.

5. Fair

No, a casual battle means both are in character, both are serious in character to use what they need to do, also SBA makes them willing to kill. Have you read Iron Fist?

Yes, let the people decide who's reasons are more plausible

 

[Meosos]

Going with Daniel for Gargoyles arguments.

 

[Newendigo]

Okay guys, I am back again. How is the vote counting?

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

@Delta no time limits for Natsu anymore.
@thec2 Natsu has power Nullification and can simply burn his chi so no mind manipulation there and range is relevant cause Natsu has huge Aoe as well which means this guy ain't dodging what Natsu can throw at him while Natsu can just keep a bit of range and that's it.

Natsu's stamina is far beyond this guy so he can fight longer. Also regen is not relevant if he can't regen things like his hand or leg. If he can just regenerate a big scar it makes no diffrence in a battle.

Natsu's major act of power nullification was when he fought Sting, who he outclasses. Natsu was tier 7-C while Sting was 8-C. So Natsu's magic overcoming Sting's Stigma wouldn't be unprecendent. In fact, it was noted that Natsu (& Gajeel) were way above Sting (& Rogue) in terms of power right after this event. Natsu does not enjoy a power advantage here as both are 7-A.

Not to mention that IF has both blocked magic with his chi and absorbed it. In particular, he's absorbed the Flames of the Faltine, mysitcal fire that can allow a user to destroy the undead with just a thought and has been used to destory entire worlds. The Flames of the Faltine are produced and granted by the species of Dormammu. He did this long before he became as powerful and skilled as he is now.

Going further, even if Natsu could try and nullify the Hypontic Fist, there's no guarantee of it. He has no idea when it's coming and has no special resistances to see through it's influence.

Range is not relevant as they start a meter (a little over 3 feet) apart from one another and both of them usually operate by going into cqc. On top of that, IF can still fire projectiles that effective at several dozen meters. Not too mention that Natsu has no true way to disengage from IF. If he were to try, IF will chase him down and Natsu doesn't have flight or teleportation to bridge a gap big or fast enough.

AOE doesn't mean much as there both right in each other's faces and IF can tank the hits and is close enough to give them back. Remember there both in the same tier and IF is the one who has regen. IF has also weathered through and absorbed an explosion that was bigger than the one at Hiroshima. And again, Natsu likes to engage hand to hand, which IF will take full advantage of.

Stamina? IF has literally meditated for 3 days straight (no sleep, no food, no water) before he began to not feel his toes. He's endured being hit with enough radiation that should have killed him instantly and kept going. Even after being trapped, not allowed to really rest or sleep, being forced into gladitorial matches with giant monsters/demons that don't stop until he's near beaten to death, not given enough to properly heal, barely able to walk because he's so exhausted, he can still fight a giant monster and beat by severing it's achilles tendon with his hand. Demonstrated here. Yeah, I don't think IF is going down soon or fast.

His regen/healing is good enough to heal near fatal injuries, cure himself of poisons and even things like cancer.

 

[Newendigo]

Bump.

 

[Schnee_One]

5 for IF

 

[Newendigo]

Oh I forget that....

 

[Delta3000]

I'm for Iron fist aswell.

 

[Schnee_One]

For....?

 

[Delta3000]

For the reasons i allready gave. Said reasons being: better powers such as energy absorption, mind manip and regen.

 

[RinkakuKagune]

Iron Fist due to Regan, far greater martial art skill and mind manipulation.

 

[Schnee_One]

Natsu loses yet again.....

 

[Newendigo]

Gar+ Do you really think that this was fair? I mean, in term of combat skill, abilities and feats. Varies of Natsu losses are for very dumb reasons...

 

[Schnee_One]

Many of Natsu's losses are dumb yes, and most should be removed.

That said, this isn't one of them, pure skill and experience doesn't make a stomp match

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Grace Period starts now (?)

 

[LordGinSama]

Well to be fair most of his matches either

1: Have much higher AP and Durability


2: Hax him to death


3: Mostly more skilled than him.


Honestly his strong point is speed and his resistance to fire. That's really about it.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Personally, Natsu has always came off to me as lacking in a lot of areas:

He really doesn't have hax.

He doesn't have a lot of avenues for attacks.

He's got a lot of transformations but really what do they add to him?

He also doesn't have a lot of general purpose/mundane skills to supplement his destructive potential.

Compare him to a lot of other Shonen Protags (Naruto, Luffy, etc.) and he kind lacks a more flexible skill set, IMHO.

 

[RinkakuKagune]

Wait...shouldn't this be added? It's been a month, and 7 votes are for Danny with only 1 for Natsu...unless something happened where it was removed?

 

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It was removed due to certain profile changes.