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you know that energy can also be cognitive... also it's talking about when zamasu was becoming IZ, it's not saying IZ is energy... well.There you have it, folks; straight from the horse's mouth: Infinite Zamasu is energy.
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you know that energy can also be cognitive... also it's talking about when zamasu was becoming IZ, it's not saying IZ is energy... well.There you have it, folks; straight from the horse's mouth: Infinite Zamasu is energy.
No it's talking about zamasu's mouth beamyou know that energy can also be cognitive... also it's talking about when zamasu was becoming IZ, it's not saying IZ is energy... well.
oh nvm then. I still fail to see just because of some Beam means that zamasu isn't abstractNo it's talking about zamasu's mouth beam
You mean the ******* energy that made up Infinite Zamasu? we are allowed to say "****", right?That's refering to zamasu's energy attack
No it's talking about zamasu's mouth beam
Are you... okay?Trunks and the others were biting back their joy. Then, suddenly, with a rumbling of the earth, an eerie rush of energy erupted into the sky. There, Zamasu's face appeared in countless numbers, spreading out and covering the sky with his laughing voice.
So, are we just going to ignore the two other statements from the same people (Toei) that state otherwise? Also, why are we taking this "will running out of control" thing very literally? Do we give Grotesque Fusion Zamasu Conceptual Manipualation (or Empathic Manipulation; whatever) for "making his complex emotions real"?So we are just gonna ignore the part saying it's zamasu's will running out of control
Nothing actually we still need staff opinion and as far as staff member who goes everyone12 and akmsama took part in this threadCan somebody write a list of which staff members that have replied so far to this thread, and summarise what they have accepted and rejected please?
Ok I read that wrong and about the soul part your statement doesn't actually State it being the soul so it's just an assumption and we have an actual statement stating it's his willYou mean the ******* energy that made up Infinite Zamasu? we are allowed to say "****", right?
Are you... okay?
I can understand that some of the taunting here from both sides is very much unnecessaryYet because of the attitudes of the users in this thread, I'd rather not associate with them and this CRT more than necessary. Honestly, I've half a mind to suggest some of these users should be reported in the RVT because of how aggressive, confrontational, and insulting they have been.
We have also a statement that he is energy.Ok I read that wrong and about the soul part your statement doesn't actually State it being the soul so it's just an assumption and we have an actual statement stating it's his will
Okay. Thank you. Feel free to file warranted reports if you wish. They are not allowed to try to harrass the staff to force through changes as they wish.I and AKM have posted on this thread, but we have only given short replies that clarify things and have not given any actual acceptance or denial. However, while I can't speak for AKM I'm personally closer to disagreeing than agreeing.
Yet because of the attitudes of the users in this thread, I'd rather not associate with them and this CRT more than necessary. Honestly, I've half a mind to suggest some of these users should be reported in the RVT because of how aggressive, confrontational, and insulting they have been.
We didn't harrass anyone, it's just that people literally get here, say they disagree for literally the wrong reasons.Okay. Thank you. Feel free to file warranted reports if you wish. They are not allowed to try to harrass the staff to force through changes as they wish.
As far i know being aggressive without surpassing a certain level doesn't go against the rules, maybe someone here went a bit out of the "Line". But honestly speaking (and for a pseudo and very limited "experience" since i have saw some reports for aggressive people considered "Not wrothy") I think noobody here should have a warn, I think people here didn't commit serious offenses, maybe people have been particularly confrontational, but it's pretty common. btw sorry for derailing, we should discuss it in report threadHonestly, I've half a mind to suggest some of these users should be reported in the RVT because of how aggressive, confrontational, and insulting they have been.
can you link it?We have also a statement that he is energy.
can you link it?
There you have it, folks; straight from the horse's mouth: Infinite Zamasu is energy.
I'll take my Nobel Prize, pleaseif i hear a ******* chainsaw man reference, i'm going to lose it.
Along with that, there is also a statement from the artbook within the Blu-Ray BOX 6.
If his physical form was destroyed, then what remains? Oh yeah, his eternal spirit.
I already answered to that.
No one on particular was rude from what I can see also can this topic be at the rules regulation thread If you wish to continue. Cause this will derail the thread.Well, several people ganging up to be rude and disrespectful to a staff member because he or she does not agree with them is not acceptable.
I checked Everything and AKM messages and the answers that they got (most of them), and no one seems to be extermely rude or offensiveWell, several people ganging up to be rude and disrespectful to a staff member because he or she does not agree with them is not acceptable.
Ae type 1 is being suggested for infinite zamasu and the argument provided here in favour of that is that infinite zamasu is zamasu's will and it's backed up by toei's official timeline which states infinite zamasu is zamasu's willOkay.
So can somebody give an explanation of the suggestions and arguments so far, so I can call some staff to evaluate it?
Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it.
Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction.
Infinite Zamasu is Zamasu WillSo what does Zamasu embody in his IZ form again?
Neat. But, does Infinite Zamasu:Infinite Zamasu is Zamasu Will
''Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it.''
this is not really needed to Abstract Type 1, it usually is just a proof to Abstract Type 2 like demons from Tensura, that will always revive because the concept of darkness exist
- Get immortality from his will?
I mean, Zamasu can act and attack as Infinite Zamasu, we saw it 2:18
- Have control over his will in the sense needed to be an abstract being? (Trying to find the right way to word it lol)
No to 1 but he does posses immortality for different reasons and yes to 2 since iz is his willNeat. But, does Infinite Zamasu:
- Get immortality from his will?
- Have control over his will in the sense needed to be an abstract being? (Trying to find the right way to word it lol)
About this, this is not really needed to Abstract Type 1, it usually is just a proof to Abstract Type 2 like demons from Tensura, that will always revive because the concept of darkness existGet immortality from his will?
Seems legit to me. I'm in favor of Abstract Zamasu.No to 1 but he does posses immortality for different reasons and yes to 2 since iz is his will
I know, I forgot to type "or" between 1 and 2 lolAbout this, this is not really needed to Abstract Type 1, it usually is just a proof to Abstract Type 2 like demons from Tensura, that will always revive because the concept of darkness exist
1- I really don't know.Neat. But, does Infinite Zamasu:
- Get immortality from his will?
- Have control over his will in the sense needed to be an abstract being? (Trying to find the right way to word it lol)
I don't think I quite follow.So just so we're all on the same page here, you all believe Zamasu is existing as a thought/will/whatever, but you also all agree that no property of Trunks's attack had the capability or was stated to have the capability to destroy a soul? Asking for the record, yes or no is enough.
Why does trunks not having capabilities to destroy a soul matter?.So just so we're all on the same page here, you all believe Zamasu is existing as a thought/will/whatever, but you also all agree that no property of Trunks's attack had the capability or was stated to have the capability to destroy a soul? Asking for the record, yes or no is enough.
idk, did he even showed feats?but you also all agree that no property of Trunks's attack had the capability or was stated to have the capability to destroy a soul?
I don't think I quite follow.
Why does trunks not having capabilities to destroy a soul matter?.
You all believe Zamasu is existing as a thought/will/whatever, but do you also all agree that no property of Trunks's attack had the capability, or, was stated to have the capability to destroy a soul with his spirit bomb sword? Yes or no?idk, did he even showed feats?