『INFINITE UNIVERSE IN DRAGON BALL SUPER』

[Demon_Lord18]

Dragon Ball's cosmology will finally reach the level of One Chad Man's cosmology

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

It is said that the scale of the world is beyond human understanding and you decide to give more importance to one human's statement than to multiple statements in different guides?

I am taking offense to this because Beerus himself was relying on Bulma's technology. Is Beerus below human understanding?

 

[Vietthai96]

I am taking offense to this because Beerus himself was relying on Bulma's technology. Is Beerus below human understanding?

Beerus relying on Bulma technology

When??

Technology is one thing, doesn't correlate much with how human can understand the size of the universe and what out there

Also why Beerus??, the guy who practically sleeping and eating most of the time. Frieza is more reliable than Beerus if we talking about universe

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

When??

Technology is one thing, doesn't correlate much with how human can understand the size of the universe and what out there

Also why Beerus??, the guy who practically sleeping and eating most of the time. Frieza is more reliable than Beerus if we talking about universe

To look for the Super Dragon Balls.

Also, I think its quite silly to claim that Bulma, who created a time machine, cannot comprehend the universe.

 

[Hasty12345]

it can have both an edge and a center

imagine a circle with an infinite radius

Isn’t a circle with infinite radius just R^2? Doesn’t this analogy require R^2 to be bounded and have an edge for it to work?

I know there are more mathematically involved arguments for this, but language and analogies used in some of these examples seem detrimental to the actual mathematics going on to allow the universe to have an edge and be infinite.

 

[Vietthai96]

To look for the Super Dragon Balls.

Oh sure, the same guy who, doesn't even know what Earth is and where it is, despite claimed to destroy the dinosaur

Also, she has what it need to create Dragon Ball Radar which track Dragon Ball signature. No one going to find a bunch of Dragon Ball as large as planet that spread across the universe with eyes and nose alone when they can make a radar to find it

Also, I think its quite silly to claim that Bulma, who created a time machine, cannot comprehend the universe.

you will be surprise with how many fictions out there have people know to make time related machine, but don't know the entire universe

anyway, time and space is unrelated in this matter, time isn't superior to space when it come to knowledges. Having understanding of how time work and how to mess with it doesn't suddenly make you superior to, and automatically know how space work, especially in fictions where thing doesn't follow what we normally expected

 

[Hasty12345]

It’s not just a Time Machine, it can travel between higher ordered temporal frameworks and to dimensions where those frameworks don’t exist.

Please don’t downplay Bulma.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Oh sure, the same guy who, doesn't even know what Earth is and where it is, despite claimed to destroy the dinosaur

The point is, Beerus who is a God of Destruction relied on the wits of a human being.

Also, she has what it need to create Dragon Ball Radar which track Dragon Ball signature. No one going to find a bunch of Dragon Ball as large as planet that spread across the universe with eyes and nose alone when they can make a radar to find it

Someone who can create a device that scans space, should have understanding on how the universe works.

anyway, time and space is unrelated in this matter, time isn't superior to space when it come to knowledges. Having understanding of how time work and how to mess with it doesn't suddenly make you superior to, and automatically know how space work, especially in fictions where thing doesn't follow what we normally expected

Space and time are entangled. You cannot understand one without understanding the other.

 

[AwkguyDB]

I agree

 

[omegabronic]

To look for the Super Dragon Balls.

Also, I think its quite silly to claim that Bulma, who created a time machine, cannot comprehend the universe.

isn't this comparing apples to oranges? i don't think one has anything to do with the other

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

isn't this comparing apples to oranges? i don't think one has anything to do with the other

It is not. Trying to throw away Bulma's statement by saying she can't comprehend the universe because she is a human flies against her accomplishments in the show.

 

[Vietthai96]

The point is, Beerus who is a God of Destruction relied on the wits of a human being.

One or two exception doesn't make a rule, especially a God like Beerus who almost does nothing most of the time for his universe

Someone who can create a device that scans space, should have understanding on how the universe works.

The radar doesn't scan space, it scan DB signature, and only pin point its location if it catch the signature

Space and time are entangled. You cannot understand one without understanding the other.

And??, understanding space-time have anything to do with how big the universe is or what out there??, we dealing with fiction you know??, literally the scan stated the universe is beyond human understanding, not space-time is beyond human understansing

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

It is not. Trying to throw away Bulma's statement by saying she can't comprehend the universe because she is a human flies against her accomplishments in the show.

Where is it written that knowing the size of the Universe is more difficult than knowing how to travel through time? I know, what I'm saying seems absurd, but time travel itself is something fictional and we don't know how science and astrology developed in the world of Dragon Ball.

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

Uma ou duas exceções não fazem uma regra, especialmente um Deus como Beerus que quase não faz nada na maior parte do tempo pelo seu universo


O radar não escaneia o espaço, ele escaneia a assinatura do banco de dados e só indica sua localização se ele captar a assinatura.


E??, entender o espaço-tempo tem algo a ver com o quão grande o universo é ou o que está lá fora??, estamos lidando com ficção, sabe??, literalmente a varredura declarou que o universo está além da compreensão humana, não o espaço-tempo está além da compreensão humana

exactly

 

[Hasty12345]

And??, understanding space-time have anything to do with how big the universe is or what out there??, we dealing with fiction you know??, literally the scan stated the universe is beyond human understanding, not space-time is beyond human understansing

Seems like a weird argument given we’re arguing about the size of the spacetime…

 

[Vietthai96]

Seems like a weird argument given we’re arguing about the size of the spacetime…

And, ngl here, in our real world, Einstein made General Relativity Theory about space-time and his equation predict even Black Hole, but did he anyone after him know the exact size of the universe??. Like time travel, space-time is one thing, how large the universe is is completely different thing.

In verse, Bulma created time machine, okay??, but she need to reverse engine of Frieza corp spaceship to make spaceship, or does she know how many planets out there in the universe??, no. You guys make it like that because she know how space-time work, and made time machine, she is so great that her knowledges also cover everything else, even our real life do not work like that, let alone fictions

 

[Hasty12345]

And, ngl here, in our real world, Einstein made General Relativity Theory about space-time and his equation predict even Black Hole, but did he anyone after him know the exact size of the universe??. Like time travel, space-time is one thing, how large the universe is is completely different thing.

Einstein didn’t create time machines that can travel to conceptually non existent planes and higher order timelines