Infinite Speed for Zeus And Adam

[Niece]

In Zeus' fight against Adam, Zeus issued a technique called "The Fist that Surpassed Time" and then Adam copied the technique.

Full Feat :

In the manga and anime, the timeframe is written as "0.0000000000000000000000 seconds", but there are some people who think that this number continues and is not necessarily an absolute "0".

However, if this technique only reaches MFTL+ then this technique should not be able to make time stop, because MFTL+ still requires a timeframe ABOVE "0" whereas if the time stops then the time will be "0".

So, Zeus as the owner of the technique "The Fist that Surpassed Time" would gain Infinite speed.

For Adam himself he got Higher Infnite, that's because Adam's fists were faster than Zeus in the battle it was shown that Zeus launched an attack earlier than Adam, but Adam & Zeus' attacks arrived simultaneously plus Adam was also able to avoid Zeus' attacks.

Conclusion:
– Infnite for Zeus
– Higher Infnite for Adam

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree

 

[Niece]

I agree

NiCe

 

[Jinx666]

As someone who overall thinks the techniques ARE specifically infinite, there is still a lot of doubt, from the convos ive had outside the wiki that this is truly an infinite move, and that its merely up to interpretation.

Mainly the sense of just because we dont see the end of the seconds, it doesn't mean it was going at at infinite speed, and instead just a speed comparable to time pausing.
Adamas Zeus could spam this move yet the fight was being well perceived by practically everyone compared to their reaction in TFTST (The Anime doesnt portray this well via slideshow lmao)
"Surpassing Infinite" on Adam's end could also suggest that there is a possible window for him to react rather than doing the impossible.

The original owner of this technique was Kronos, who Zeus beat ofc and was labelled the 'Personification of Time', but Gigantomachy as a whole is super foggy with the sense of the Titans.

There is still a lot of doubt and ambiguity in general, so I think listing the possibilitiesas they are is the best course of action. Speed is always equalized anyway

 

[Kanogami]

Wrong forum.

 

[ZENZUYA]

Waiting for others

 

[Niece]

As someone who overall thinks the techniques ARE specifically infinite, there is still a lot of doubt, from the convos ive had outside the wiki that this is truly an infinite move, and that its merely up to interpretation.

Mainly the sense of just because we dont see the end of the seconds, it doesn't mean it was going at at infinite speed, and instead just a speed comparable to time pausing.
Adamas Zeus could spam this move yet the fight was being well perceived by practically everyone compared to their reaction in TFTST (The Anime doesnt portray this well via slideshow lmao)
"Surpassing Infinite" on Adam's end could also suggest that there is a possible window for him to react rather than doing the impossible.

The original owner of this technique was Kronos, who Zeus beat ofc and was labelled the 'Personification of Time', but Gigantomachy as a whole is super foggy with the sense of the Titans.

There is still a lot of doubt and ambiguity in general, so I think listing the possibilitiesas they are is the best course of action. Speed is always equalized anyway

However, if this technique only reaches MFTL+ then this technique should not be able to make time stop, because MFTL+ still requires a timeframe ABOVE "0" whereas if the time stops then the time will be "0".

 

[Kanogami]

Again, this is the wrong forum for this.

 

[Jinx666]

However, if this technique only reaches MFTL+ then this technique should not be able to make time stop, because MFTL+ still requires a timeframe ABOVE "0" whereas if the time stops then the time will be "0".

I mean its not really confirmed its time stop, it could just be going super fast that it appears as if time has stopped too.

 

[ZENZUYA]

Again, this is the wrong forum for this.

?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Go to content revision for this

 

[Niece]

Go to content revision for this

Help

 

[ZENZUYA]

Go to content revision for this

Hello dude sorry iam late for wish you a happy birthday, hope your life goes well

 

[ZENZUYA]

Go to content revision for this

btw he did nt know
how to post his thread well

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Hello dude sorry iam late for wish you a happy birthday, hope your life goes well

Thanks

 

[Niece]

Thanks

Help me properly post this thread

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Help me properly post this thread

Post it on here

https://vsbattles.com/forums/content-revision.11/

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

THis is ******* FCOC bro.

What did you expect?

 

[Fixxed]

Well agree

 

[ImmortalDread]

However, if this technique only reaches MFTL+ then this technique should not be able to make time stop, because MFTL+ still requires a timeframe ABOVE "0" whereas if the time stops then the time will be "0".

Wrong information, time stop is not an absolute, a lot of people misunderstand this. Time stop technically is slowing down the time.

 

[Kanogami]

Again, this is the wrong forum for this.

Move this discussion to main forum CRT section.

 

[ZENZUYA]

However, if this technique only reaches MFTL+ then this technique should not be able to make time stop, because MFTL+ still requires a timeframe ABOVE "0" whereas if the time stops then the time will be "0".

think again this is just an animation effect that describes the speed of the two characters

 

[ImmortalDread]

think again this is just an animation effect that describes the speed of the two characters

The assertion made by him is, in fact, incorrect, as it is entirely possible to initiate a time stop even when the temporal duration exceeds zero. The temporal stasis effect is fundamentally defined as the "reduction of temporal velocity."

 

[ZENZUYA]

The assertion made by him is, in fact, incorrect, as it is entirely possible to initiate a time stop even when the temporal duration exceeds zero. The temporal stasis effect is fundamentally defined as the "reduction of temporal velocity."

So he still mftl+?

 

[ImmortalDread]

So he still mftl+?

Evidently, an argument founded upon erroneous information is unlikely to succeed, so yap.

 

[Georredannea15]

Wrong information, time stop is not an absolute, a lot of people misunderstand this. Time stop technically is slowing down the time.

Obviously not. The closer you get to the "0" point of time, the slower time becomes. And if you reach the "0" time point, time seems "stop" to you. Because in this point, you have reached the limit of the concept of time.

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Should have a mod to move this to the correct thread and forum.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Obviously not. The closer you get to the "0" point of time, the slower time becomes. And if you reach the "0" time point, time seems "stop" to you. Because in this point, you have reached the limit of the concept of time.

Georr i ain't discussing with you. Time stop is technically slowing time in this forum. We don't default time stop to absolute one.

Continuee playing ur counter strike

 

[Georredannea15]

Georr i ain't discussing with you. Time stop is technically slowing time in this forum. We don't default time stop to absolute one.

Because, as usual, you were spreading false information. You assumed seeing time as stationary was also a slowdown but that's not a hax LOL

Continuee playing ur counter strike

I wish you success in your life with this mindset... You can continue playing Lol in Silver Elo.

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Guys, how about you two get a room and work it out together? It's quite clear that you two have different perspective on how certain things work and I honestly felt it's better to leave the decision to the knowledgeable staff. If the feat doesn't fit the bill of this wiki standard according to the staff, that just how it is then.

 

[Aachintya31]

tf is higher infinite ?

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

tf is higher infinite ?

You can outpace an infinite speed character.

Basically just chain scaling for speed.