Imgur Kaput

[Dark_Soul20189]

Also, do any others have any evaluations for Gyazo?

It was talked about a lot in the earlier stages of the thread

Didn't we already have multiple threads advocating to avoid Imgur and use other platforms such as Gyazo, Catbox, and Imgchest?

@Agnaa I've used Gyazo for a long while and you need a paid subscription to do multiple posts as well as have gifs that are longer than 7 seconds. Plus if you don't archive every single link you've made for Gyazo in a discord server or some other place, your base account only lets you view the last 5 gyazo images/GIFs you've made.

and some more, including the OP, preposing it as an alternative.

Gyazo is good, specifically when you post a single picture, and so on. It has issues, but still fulfills its purpose (But at the same time, it is one of the only sites I have personally not have problem when using.)

 

[Antvasima]

Does Gyazo delete the images for accounts that cancel their subscriptions, and do the paid subscriptions make it more easy to dox the members who do get paid subscriptions, or to sue them for copyright infringements for that matter?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Does Gyazo delete the images for accounts that cancel their subscriptions, and do the paid subscriptions make it more easy to dox the members who do get paid subscriptions, or sue them for copyright infringements for that matter?

I can't answer any of the copyright things or paid subscriptions, but I can say the site has no real "image" limit for non-paid users, as far as I am aware.

The thing it has is a 1 limit image per "post" and a very limited "history" for posts, so you need to save the link somewhere else.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, so are Catbox and ImgChest more practical and reliable to use?

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Okay, so are Catbox and ImgChest more practical and reliable to use?

Not sure, since I have had trouble accessing both sites before, with the only one being fully relaible is Gyazo. Now more practical, sure.

 

[Planck69]

Okay, so are Catbox and ImgChest more practical and reliable to use?

I've been using imgchest for the past few months and have had no issues with it so far. It's also fairly easy to use if you're familiar with imgur. It does have a 10 mb size limit per single post, but there's no posting limit and it keeps track of your history as well.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for the information.

I would appreciate input from other staff members here. Should we add Gyazo to our recommended image-storing sites alongside Catbox and ImgChest, and should we discourage using Imgur in the future?

 

[Planck69]

I'd personally suggest heavily discouraging it in the future. Obviously we can't penalize its use as it currently exists but we can slowly replace existing links over time. But imgur has been causing far too many problems to keep using these days.

 

[KLOL506]

I've been using imgchest for the past few months and have had no issues with it so far. It's also fairly easy to use if you're familiar with imgur. It does have a 10 mb size limit per single post, but there's no posting limit and it keeps track of your history as well.

ImgChest is 30MB per file, not 10. Upto 20 files max.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

ImgChest is 30MB per file, not 10. Upto 20 files max.

No, it's 10MBs?

 

[MrTayman616]

No, it's 10MBs?

The maximum file size for an unregistered user is 10MB, while the maximum for a registered user is 30MB.

You have to register.

 

[KLOL506]

No, it's 10MBs?

You should not be using any image-hosting sites without registering an account anyway.

 

[Planck69]

Yeah, KLOL's right. I tested it before registering an account so thats probably why I mixed up the numbers.

 

[Antvasima]

I would appreciate input from other staff members here. Should we add Gyazo to our recommended image-storing sites alongside Catbox and ImgChest, and should we discourage using Imgur in the future?

I'd personally suggest heavily discouraging it in the future. Obviously we can't penalize its use as it currently exists but we can slowly replace existing links over time. But imgur has been causing far too many problems to keep using these days.

I am inclined to agree, but would really appreciate further staff input here.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

I heavily agree with using CatBox

 

[Antvasima]

I still really need staff evaluations for and help regarding my last post above.

 

[Lort15]

bump?

 

[Antvasima]

I still really need staff evaluations for and help regarding my last post above.

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[Armorchompy]

Okay. Thank you for the information.

I would appreciate input from other staff members here. Should we add Gyazo to our recommended image-storing sites alongside Catbox and ImgChest, and should we discourage using Imgur in the future?

This post? Yeah probably, definitely regarding Imgur. Imgchest hasn't been great for me frankly, it's a little buggy, but it seems okay so far.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. We also need to modify our existing rule text for this accordingly.

 

[Vietthai96]

I'm starting to use Imagechest now, since it have similar feature to Imgur regarding making album and allows to write texts under the uploaded image, you can also upload short clip

Never use Catbox so idk about it to say anything noteworthy

Also never use Gyazo but i have been encountering a lot of users using this site so i think it is fine to recommend it

About Imgur, i know some members who still using it pretty normally, it seems like this site issues impacts people differently, so i guess discouraging from using imgur but not totally prevent using the site is oke to me. Since tbf, i still storing many old scans on imgur since aside from some weird issue the site is mostly working normal to me

 

[Armorchompy]

I assume it's in our standards already but just conversationally I'd encourage people to upload one-picture scans to the wiki directly. I've started doing it recently and it's much easier and quicker than I thought it'd be (faster than uploading and linking to a hosting site) and infinitely safer too.

 

[Vietthai96]

I assume it's in our standards already but just conversationally I'd encourage people to upload one-picture scans to the wiki directly. I've started doing it recently and it's much easier and quicker than I thought it'd be (faster than uploading and linking to a hosting site) and infinitely safer too.

Yeah, people still doing this, just that Imgur allows you to post multiple picture into one album with one single link, and allow you to write texts under the scan which is great for explaining context. In short you can make a pseudo-blog with imgur feature, that why people using Imgur alot more than using wiki image function

 

[Armorchompy]

Yeah, sadly hosting sites do have advantages. I do think Imgchest is basically an upgrade over Imgur in that regard though by virtue of actually mostly working

 

[Naito-desu]

I've been using imgchest so far but idk, I don't really trust image hosting sites to not suck. Imgur has burned me although I suppose it's a matter of letting people use it at their peril rather than banning it like say, with Discord

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah, sadly hosting sites do have advantages. I do think Imgchest is basically an upgrade over Imgur in that regard though by virtue of actually mostly working

There are ways to cope with that, like including all the relevant scans in references or spreading scans across multiple words, it's what I do.

 

[Just a Random Butler]

Okay. Thank you for the information.

I would appreciate input from other staff members here. Should we add Gyazo to our recommended image-storing sites alongside Catbox and ImgChest, and should we discourage using Imgur in the future?

I haven't used Imgur lately, but if it's creating difficulties for the userbase, then I have no objections to this. I'm open to any change that makes things easier to manage, more user-friendly, or less prone to issues.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I usually upload things to the Wiki if I can. I've found Imgur a bit clunky at times and all the articles and ads it always has underneath only serves to slow loading times.

Imgchest and gyazo do seem to be okay substitutes, but since I don't use them I can't say.

 

[Antvasima]

I assume it's in our standards already but just conversationally I'd encourage people to upload one-picture scans to the wiki directly. I've started doing it recently and it's much easier and quicker than I thought it'd be (faster than uploading and linking to a hosting site) and infinitely safer too.

Well, one-picture scans, but not full one-page scans. That could get us in serious trouble.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Well, one-picture scans, but not full one-page scans. That could get us in serious trouble.

If it's altered or reduced significantly it makes it safer. Like blotting out speech bubbles that aren't relevant, cropping out unneeded parts of the image, altering colours, that kind of thing. Not full-on censorship of information like cropping out context that refutes what's being said, but if it's sufficiently transformative it falls under fair use.

 

[Thermor]

If the issue is choosing which site is best for scans, can't we use multiple at once?

An example would be: "A is stated capable of destroying the universe: [catbox link 1], [imgchest link 2], [gyazo link 3]". If one of them shutdowns, it can simply replaced with another site easily while having the other 2 as backups.

 

[Random-Helper323]

If the issue is choosing which site is best for scans, can't we use multiple at once?

An example would be: "A is stated capable of destroying the universe: [catbox link 1], [imgchest link 2], [gyazo link 3]". If one of them shutdowns, it can simply replaced with another site easily while having the other 2 as backups.

Using multiple as backup definitely does have its undeniable advantages.

 

[YmTheSuper]

I've used both gyazo and imgchest and both seem to be working well although gyazo is more limited compared to imgchest in that you can only upload 1 image per link and that videos can only be uploaded if you have a pro subscription (GIF are available for free users though).

I would also support postimages as a good alternative as it works well and even images from 13 years ago still appear and function well so I don't think that longevity would be that big of a problem. Also a decent amount of pages in the wiki seem to already use it.

If the issue is choosing which site is best for scans, can't we use multiple at once?

An example would be: "A is stated capable of destroying the universe: [catbox link 1], [imgchest link 2], [gyazo link 3]". If one of them shutdowns, it can simply replaced with another site easily while having the other 2 as backups.

I guess this can be done with the backup links being placed in their own reference section similar to how we deal with notes and statistics values. Although I don't think it should be obligatory or anything like that but rather recommended. As for which one should be the main one I think that should be up to the user.

 

[FinePoint]

Encouraging people to use basically any well-known site except Imgur seems wise at this point, yes.

 

[Antvasima]

Encouraging people to use basically any well-known site except Imgur seems wise at this point, yes.

We need to choose what seem to be the most reliable ones that do not require paid subscriptions, and that do not contain any pornography, viruses, or other bad content.

 

[Theglassman12]

Friendly reminder that you need to go through extra hoops to make Gyazo reliable if you're not paying for the subscription. If you don't have a random discord server archiving all of your Gyazo links then consider those old scans you took goodbye if you don't have the subscription. I know this from personal experience.

 

[Antvasima]

Friendly reminder that you need to go through extra hoops to make Gyazo reliable if you're not paying for the subscription. If you don't have a random discord server archiving all of your Gyazo links then consider those old scans you took goodbye if you don't have the subscription. I know this from personal experience.

Then we should definitely discourage use of Gyazo, and likely put a wiki edit-block against such links if we haven't already.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Friendly reminder that you need to go through extra hoops to make Gyazo reliable if you're not paying for the subscription. If you don't have a random discord server archiving all of your Gyazo links then consider those old scans you took goodbye if you don't have the subscription. I know this from personal experience.

I've been using gyazo (without a subscription) for 3 years and I never had this problem. My scans from it are still working, and I have hundreds of them.

 

[FinePoint]

We need to choose what seem to be the most reliable ones that do not require paid subscriptions, and that do not contain any pornography, viruses, or other bad content.

I've been using imgbox.com without any issues.
I can't really speak on any other service specifically.

 

[Antvasima]

So is somebody willing to write a draft for an updated image archive hosting instruction rule text then?

Here are our current ones:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Editing_Rules#Images