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Question, is Mel scaling to the low end or high end of the ocean calc? Because Ichigo is one shotting if its the low end. No need for RC, its just an AP stomp.
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if he start with cero or getsuga then maybe if counter doesn't have any limits .BakiHanma18 said:I personally couldn't tell you, but I'll get in contact with a Seven Deadly Sins supporter later today. Also, would either of the counters prevent Ichigo from throwing around his potential massive AP advantage?
Alright, this seems pretty accurate even at first glance. I'm currently talking to a Seven Deadly Sins supporter to find out Mel's position in the Ocean Calc. If he's on the higher end, we can continue the match, but if he's on the lower end, I'll request this be closed due to being a stompNaeblis495 said:ichigo very rarely lead with getsuga . Even in matches where he used it a lot like with his second match with grimmjow with an arm missing , he still started with shunpo +slash( wich grimmjow blocked) followed by a close quarter getsuga . After that he spammed getsuga like three times.
in fact one of the time i can recall him leading with it is against his first encounter with yhwach , and when he wanted to surprise kill aizen .
I do vaguely remember him charging it, so that logic seems soundOvy7 said:It's also good to mention that VL Ichigo already tanked his own Cero with 0 damage, which was likely stronger than his normal Cero because, IIRC, he took a little more time to gatter power or something.
I'd prefer if we use the old calcs for two reasons:TOAAPRECENCE said:That would mean that either this match goes on stop or that we only use the old calcs until the new one calcs accepted or at least that's what I believe.
Now that I know the AP range, I can make this more evenTOAAPRESENCE1 said:but there really is AP diference in favor of ichigo
If this Mel stomped an Escanor that no sold 435 GT 2x while heavily injured, I think it doesTOAAPRESENCE1 said:I dont see the change in the outcome tbh.
Right, but Mel stomped Escanor. Escanor was the one who no sold 435 GT 2x while heavily injured. Uninjured he could definitely take more than two, none of them even injured him, and he got stomped by this MelTOAAPRESENCE1 said:Lanza de el relampago 894 Gigatons.
yeah , by that logic , what about ichigo and renji who took millions of blades of bankai byakuya ?AnonymousBlank said:@Baki
Dude, no. You don't add up the damage. That isn't how it works at all. Taking 10 tons >>> taking 1 ton × 10. I get you want the match to be fair to an extent but it just isn't.
I'll add thisAlburi123 said:Ichigo whould win
You're missing the point. I understand that 435 GT is 435 GT no matter how many times it hits, but he was completely unaffected by about half of a Lanza hitting him twice, and he was heavily injured, implying that he was at least fatigued to half stats, if not more. And that's the guy who got stomp by Mel even at 100%., this match is definitely fair.AnonymousBlank said:@Baki
Dude, no. You don't add up the damage. That isn't how it works at all. Taking 10 tons >>> taking 1 ton × 10. I get you want the match to be fair to an extent but it just isn't.
Okay, I have a few questions, but other than what I'm about to ask, I understand and thank you for clarifying:Peter1129 said:The old calc for Cero Oscuras and Lanza Del Relampago are unusable since they use an outdated size of Las Noches. So currently the High 6-Cs of Bleach scale from Gran Rey Cero which is just 120 Gigaton. For Full Hollow Ichigo the scaling is
Full Hollow Ichigo (Stomps)> Resureccion Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra (Far stronger than)> Resureccion Ulquiorra (Stronger than)> Resureccion Nnoitra (Stronger than)> Resureccion Grimmjow (Comparable to)~ Hollowfied Bankai Ichigo (No sold)> Gran Rey Cero (120 Gigaton)