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I debunked the possibility of a K.O. Wincon last night I believeIt isn't her only win con tho, she can also just knock him out...
This is a big one. I see a lot of mentions of “K.O.” as a possible win condition here, without the acknowledgment that The Demon would have to be out cold 24 whole hours. That’s EXTREMELY unlikely, and while it presents itself as a definite possibility, it’s not the massive win-con it’s been propped up as.
Cool, still need a scan of him using tp in a fight...I debunked the possibility of a K.O. Wincon last night I believe
Finn’s win-cons are far more reliable, given a combination of being able to counter Chisato’s analytical prediction, much higher AP, and finishers that will put her well out of the fight at pretty much any stage of it. Even being modest with Finn’s potential routes of both defence and offence, he has a variety of useful abilities that simply add up to more than Chisato’s flawed restraint and K.O. based win-conditions
Quite literally uses it to get the jump on an opponent - exactly how we would need to here - in the scan his profile uses…Cool, still need a scan of him using tp in a fight...
I'm pretty sure that only @Adem_Warlock69 and @DemonicDude have voted. Also pretty sure that you and Random haven't voted.Anyways, I believe it’s 3:3 now!
This is getting tight…
I have voted for Finn, idk about Random thoughI’ll officially lodge my vote in for Finn now
They are not within each others line of sight and the fight takes place at a bullet trainAren't they 40 meters apart? Can't Chisato just kite him (Unless Finn's teleportation can close that gap)
Teleportation can close gaps, and Chisato isn’t amazing at long-ranged accuracy with her guns, even without acknowledging The Demon can shroud the entire train in darknessAren't they 40 meters apart? Can't Chisato just kite him (Unless Finn's teleportation can close that gap)
I doubt she wouldn't be able to immediately notice him.They are not within each others line of sight and the fight takes place at a bullet train
The teleportation seemed to have a range of like, a few meters AT BEST. And does he spam both the darkness shit or teleportation shiz?Teleportation can close gaps, and Chisato isn’t amazing at long-ranged accuracy with her guns, even without acknowledging The Demon can shroud the entire train in darkness
Honestly with Popted being tired and me got burnout over this debate, just let Finn proceed to the next round, no vote lel
yeah but i'm not letting Chisato loose to this character,I think you guys missed what i said above, so i'll quote it here:
I just woke up so missed this lol.I think you guys missed what i said above, so i'll quote it here:
Don't worry you two. Logan will fight him to avenge!i know but i definetly don't want to loose to this guy
Not at all, The Demon was nowhere to be seen before, so he must have been teleporting from beyond the length of the runway. That’s tens of metres with relative easeThe teleportation seemed to have a range of like, a few meters AT BEST.
It is generally what The Demon uses to get the jump on people in an all-out brawl without the usual rules of a wrestling match holding him back, yes. It is very much an in-character and combat applicable move that completely counters Chisato, as I have mentioned aboveAnd does he spam both the darkness shit or teleportation shiz?
about enhanced senses, Chisato could hit someone approaching her, without even looking
Saman, I have made it very clear how The Demon has used both of these abilities in-character and in combat. WWE is more than just wrestling matches, and there are many abilities that characters show when they are placed within the all-out brawl situation Vs Matches fall under. If you are not going to listen to the main supporters of the verse’s explanations on how the verse’s abilities and characters work, I can’t do much more.Idk why everyone argues for teleportation and light manip, watch any of Balor's matches, even with the Demon persona on, and you'll see he doesn't use neither ability in combat.
Finn or Demon ?But honestly, what Riki and Saman said here are much more sense here as it raised some of questionable things on Finn
I have debunked both of them…But honestly, what Riki and Saman said here are much more sense here as it raised some of questionable things on Finn
to do so, is frankly frustrating me. I know this verse, and I know this character.watch any of Balor's matches
Vote CountedI just woke up so missed this lol.
Don't worry you two. Logan will fight him to avenge!
Anyway hmm... I think generally his teleportation won't be spammed in fights but on the fact that his opponent had a gun it's not exactly a conventional wrestling match.
Gonna vote tie.
???Can you show me scans where he uses it constantly in combat instead of just for show? The justification scan just shows him suddenly on the pole waiting to attack (Which will get him nicely beaten the shit out of if he does that in any place in this match)
Your debunk isn't enough to falling what Chisato can do here, even with all of those stuff you mention yet has very flawed thingI have debunked both of them…
The fact your answer to my points on how Finn’s hax helps him is to apply ridiculous levels of scrutiny to them and their combat applicability, while using comments that prove you don’t understand the full scope of the verse
Don't be so passionate then if it only stressed you out over a fictional debateto do so, is frankly frustrating me. I know this verse, and I know this character.
Just for show? He quite literally gets the jump on his opponent and attacks them EXPLICITLY because he utilises his teleportation and light manipulationCan you show me scans where he uses it constantly in combat instead of just for show?
He stood there for (apparently) 7~ seconds before jumping in. I moreso expected, you know, insta teleported and beat the shit out of his opponents, not wait for them for some reason to look at him. Especially when you realize the dude he was fighting had his back turned.???
He literally teleported on the pole, waiting for the right moment to strike.
BECAUSE…?even with all of those stuff you mention yet has very flawed thing
It still count iirc, and again Riki and Saman has brought some of valid points here, even if they are an outsider of this verseBECAUSE…?
Casually sweeping aside the validity of arguments without reason, is itself not an argument
This is exactly why lol.(Maybe I read too much web novels and it rotted my brain, but that's always what I think of when it comes to teleportation in-combat)
I always interpreted that as a pseudo-cinematic timing thing where there’s a pause in action for the audience to soak in The Demon’s appearance (especially after a multi-year hiatus) before the action resumes. It’s like one of those flashy reveals in anime - to put it into those kind of termsHe stood there for (apparently) 7~ seconds before jumping in.
The results of pitting an anime character against a WWE character.
Because Kamen Rider mfs are crazy lol.Funny you said that when you have 0 bravery to put WWE against Kamen Rider Human Form lel
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