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Huge Honkai Revisions PART 2

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Since the new system is taking practically an eternity to be applied, I'll just drop a detonator since I'm really unsatisfied with the current state of the overall Honkai cosmology as of now.

The Sea of Quanta is already accepted as 11-dimensional on an infinite 11-D scale in this CRT. Considering it is on an infinite 11-D scale, then every universe a part of the Sea of Quanta should all be 11-D from this part of the CRT right here.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/honkai-impact-upgrade-to-high-1-b.109724/

Anyways, if Mea, Thanatos, Enryu, Woomy or any of you guys see this then forgive me for starting a CRT alone

The Imaginary Tree contains the Sea of Quanta and has been implied to be significantly superior to it, therefore acts as a subset of it. As to why and how?
Let's start from here:

Part 1: The Imaginary Tree stores and transcends all of everything

The Imaginary Tree is the Origin of everything:




The truth of life and the universe came into being from the Imaginary Tree. Everything from the Hi3rd and HSR franchises arose from the Tree. Not to mention that it explicitly said that the Divine Key will have to traverse through the quantum dimension (referring to the Sea of Quanta in the case) to reach the Imaginary Tree.



Imaginary Space is said to be the Origin of all things, where the Universe and all law intertwine with each other. It's also been implied in order to transcend reality, one must become a part of the Imaginary Tree. The words "universe" and "reality" heavily imply all of creation, which includes the Sea of Quanta since it's been said to contain "all things".

As to even support my sentimental claim:


The Imaginary Tree is directly asserted to be the birth of all creation. It's the instant of eternity, the start of the end and the origin of all laws and truth. Its finality and origin are intertwined together; conventional logic and functions do not apply to the imaginary tree, as all stuff transcends what is regarded as dual systems of the universe.

The Imaginary Tree exists on a transfinite/absolute infinity scale:



https://imgur.com/a/se29Wpf

Einstein stated the Imaginary Tree is infinite in a scale of a transfinite sense.
Let's define the concept of transfinity:


A transfinite number denotes the infinite set of objects, which in straightforward terms, is anything a part of the Infinite set of objects is a subset of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfinite_number#Definition:~:text=The%20continuum%20hypothesis,can%20be%20proved.

As stated here, there are no intermediate transfinite cardinal numbers between aleph-0 and aleph-1 (the same logic applies to all aleph numbers). If something were to be strictly bigger on a transfinite scale, then logically it should reach a higher level of infinity.

https://imgur.com/a/6oc48oR

The Imaginary Tree has been explicitly said to not only be a sign of absolute infinity but embody absolute infinite power itself. As stated by Otto Apocalypse, "the power that cannot be renormalized is absolute infinite..." By this statement, if the Imaginary Tree symbolizes absolute infinity, then it should no doubt be uncountably up to inaccessibly superior to those that act like a subset of it; be it the multiverse and Sea of Quanta.

The Imaginary Tree stores completely everything:

https://imgur.com/a/W1UxLEz

Nagamitsu asserted the Imaginary Tree is beyond the ordinary levels of reality. As thoroughly expressed by Nagamitsu with flowery language, the Imaginary Tree is an entire server system and everything encompassed in it is considered game data.


Each leaf of the Imaginary Tree is a parallel world with a separate space-time from one another, with these realities sharing no continuity whatsoever.

https://imgur.com/a/Wmt9Rqn#FkZ85LH

The Imaginary Tree not only contain parallel worlds but timelines as well, which are already infinite in default. The Imaginary Tree leads to infinite with each branched out trail collectively, and the time of each realm is considered fundamentally discrete from each other.

Now... I'm pretty much done with all the elucidating and analysis on the Imaginary Tree. Let's move on to the Sea of Quanta, shall we?

Part 2: The Dichotomy with the Sea of Quanta

As to how the Imaginary Tree not only transcends the multiverse of the Hi3 franchise but also the Sea of Quanta. To see how it compares to it, let's drop some in-game occurrences and narratives.

The Sea of Quanta is just a mere body of water:

https://imgur.com/a/yllSzLG#ayBjorm

https://imgur.com/a/riBPPRr#0djbA72

While the Imaginary Tree has been praised as such a damn terrifying structure, yet, the Sea of Quanta has only been referred to as a "bathtub" or "puddle". Talking about the disrespect... lol.

The Sea of Quanta only contains dead worlds that are fallen leaves from the Imaginary Tree:

https://imgur.com/a/xWDg4om

It's been said that the Sea of Quanta only contains dead worlds that are only flown from the Imaginary Tree like an orange leaf, from an autumn tree.

With all this being said and all information provided up to this point inferred, we can deduce that the Imaginary Tree is indeed quantitatively superior to the Sea of Quanta from an uncountable scale. As the Sea of Quanta has not only been seen as insignificantly small compared to the Imaginary Tree but the latter has been interpreted as something that embodies Absolute Infinity and Transfinite concepts, with solid and qualitative transcendence over all worlds and timelines of the Honkai Multiverse.

Part 3: The Sea of Quanta is a Hyperspace that encompasses 11-D worlds

This might be the most controversial section of the CRT, but considering even Dragon Ball qualified for retaining a Neutral Space with absolutely nothing in-verse supporting it, achieving a Neutral Space status for the Sea of Quanta should be explicitly easy.

The Sea of Quanta acts akin to a bulk neutral hyperspace:

https://imgur.com/a/soq-1-pr6DEAy

It's been affirmed that all of the Universes stored in the Sea of Quanta inherit 11-dimensional properties. The Sea of Quanta has been accepted to contain an infinite amount of those 11-D universes and serve as a medium for absolutely anything that corresponds to the properties that are correlated to the properties of its stored bubble universes.

The aforementioned information and context should serve as a premise for the Sea of Quanta being a 12-dimensional Neutral Hyperspace, as it acts like a medium to Infinite 11-D worlds while retaining its own axes, and even being an overarching void itself. Therefore, as said before with the leaves of the Imaginary Tree, the dead leads of the Sea of Quanta absolutely do not share any continuity and each is separated by their own space-time.

As to why containing lower-dimensional space-time counts as a higher-dimensional Neutral Space, I'll just link this CRT. Don't mind the title of that CRT or anything, as it barely has any in-verse explanation and it only elucidated dimensional tiering standards and philosophical shit, under overarching timelines.

The Honkai universe undoubtedly also has overarching timelines. I linked this gallery before and I'll do it again:

https://imgur.com/a/Wmt9Rqn#aSNQxuH

Not to mention the Sea of Quanta retains properties akin to a Brane Cosmology, as proven by Seele can freely traverse into different dimensions from the Sea of Quanta.

The leaves of the Imaginary Tree is an Infinite 11-D structure, with every leaf having its own time that diverges infinitely:

The leaves of the Imaginary Tree each have their own time with each being fundamentally different, which could imply that each world has its own history. Welt also has said that there can be Infinite worlds for each universe; the statement heavily implies that each universe has its own time axis that can branch the timeline into infinite possibilities with the MWI serving as the basis. Now, with the aforementioned information deduced, we can conclude that each leaf world acts as its own timeline with infinite worlds a part of it. The Sea of Quanta contains the dead leaf worlds and serves as an overarching timeline residing on a transcendental axis, qualitatively beyond the 11-D leaf worlds.

Even more evidence to support the surmise of each leaf world having its own history: Gun Girls Z, Honkai: Star Rail and Genshin Impact are all worlds a part of the same Imaginary Tree in Honkai Impact 3rd; all three of these franchises have different histories and properties discrete from the Hi3rd universe, not to mention both franchises have their own separate games. For Honkai: Star Rail and GGZ, that's quite straightforward so no need to explain. As for Genshin, Dvalin was shown to have appeared on Otto's computer so it undoubtedly shows that Genshin is connected to Hi3.

As said before, since the Sea of Quanta contains dead leaves of the Imaginary Tree which are also bubble universes that are 11-D, we can concretely deduce that each leaf of the Imaginary Tree is an Infinite 11-D structure. The Sea of Quanta encompasses the dead Imaginary Tree leaves/11-D bubble universes as an extradimensional neutral hyperspace.

Conclusion

After all of the incessant yapping, let's head straight to the conclusion.

The Sea of Quanta will be upgraded to 1-B on an Infinite 12-D scale due to being a Neutral Hyperspace that contains all of the 11-D bubble worlds and timelines (Each bubble world is Infinite 11-D due to having to contain infinite worlds of itself).

The Imaginary Tree will be upgraded to 1-B on an Infinite 13-D scale due to being qualitatively superior to absolute everything which includes the Sea of Quanta and symbolising Absolute Infinity.

For the scaling of characters... well, the scaling chain won't change at all. Anyone who respectively scales to the Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta will have their ratings upgraded according to their scale.

Now, I don't want any discussions that'll upgrade the verse further than this. I know there is infinite-dimensional stuff but the active Honkai supporters have discussed implementing it after the standards change. The reason I proposed this change is because this won't have any effects on the standards change, at all.

Credits to @Shiroiyo, @ThanatosX, @GZ2022 and @Stocking.exe for all the scans, image galleries and the past CRT~ 💖
 
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The Imaginary Tree is the Origin of everything:

The truth of life and the universe came into being from the Imaginary Tree. Everything from the Hi3rd and HSR franchises arose from the Tree. Not to mention that it explicitly said that the Divine Key will have to traverse through the quantum dimension (referring to the Sea of Quanta in the case) to reach the Imaginary Tree.

Imaginary Space is said to be the Origin of all things, where the Universe and all law intertwine with each other. It's also been implied in order to transcend reality, one must become a part of the Imaginary Tree. The words "universe" and "reality" heavily imply all of creation, which includes the Sea of Quanta since it's been said to contain "all things".

The Imaginary Tree is directly asserted to be the birth of all creation. It's the instant of eternity, the start of the end and the origin of all laws and truth. Its finality and origin are intertwined together; conventional logic and functions do not apply to the imaginary tree, as all stuff transcends what is regarded as dual systems of the universe.

So I guess you are implying that the Imaginary Tree also contains the Sea of Quanta with these. Well, I don't think so since both are universes, realities, or all of creation of their own, they cannot nor do not contain each other since both are different structures. The imaginary tree is the origin of all timelines and worlds of everything inside itself.

The Imaginary Tree exists on a transfinite/absolute infinity scale:



Einstein stated the Imaginary Tree is infinite in a scale of a transfinite sense.
Let's define the concept of transfinity:
https://www.britannica.com/science/transfinite-number


Britannica link doesn't work

A transfinite number denotes the infinite set of objects, which in straightforward terms, is anything a part of the Infinite set of objects is a subset of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfinite_number#Definition:~:text=The%20continuum%20hypothesis,can%20be%20proved.

As stated here, there are no intermediate transfinite cardinal numbers between aleph-0 and aleph-1 (the same logic applies to all aleph numbers). If something were to be strictly bigger on a transfinite scale, then logically it should reach a higher level of infinity.



The Imaginary Tree has been explicitly said to not only be a sign of absolute infinity but embody absolute infinite power itself. As stated by Otto Apocalypse, "the power that cannot be renormalized is absolute infinite..." By this statement, if the Imaginary Tree symbolizes absolute infinity, then it should no doubt be uncountably up to inaccessibly superior to those that act like a subset of it; be it the multiverse and Sea of Quanta.


Well yeah, since a tree has multiple infinities inside itself (timelines and leaf worlds; all of them are infinitely numbered), of course, it would be infinite, even to transfinite numbers. but i do not see why this should be an argument for being above the Sea of Quanta; both are different structures.

The Imaginary Tree stores completely everything:



Nagamitsu asserted the Imaginary Tree is beyond the ordinary levels of reality. As thoroughly expressed by Nagamitsu with flowery language, the Imaginary Tree is an entire server system and everything encompassed in it is considered game data.
Each leaf of the Imaginary Tree is a parallel world with a separate space-time from one another, with these realities sharing no continuity whatsoever.

https://imgur.com/a/Wmt9Rqn#FkZ85LH

The Imaginary Tree not only contain parallel worlds but timelines as well, which are already infinite in default. The Imaginary Tree leads to infinite with each branched out trail collectively, and the time of each realm is considered fundamentally discrete from each other.

Now... I'm pretty much done with all the elucidating and analysis on the Imaginary Tree. Let's move on to the Sea of Quanta, shall we?


yeah just extra information about how imaginary tree contains everything inside itself and above these worlds and timelines

Part 2: The Dichotomy with the Sea of Quanta

As to how the Imaginary Tree not only transcends the multiverse of the Hi3 franchise but also the Sea of Quanta. To see how it compares to it, let's drop some in-game occurrences and narratives.

The Sea of Quanta is just a mere body of water:

https://imgur.com/a/yllSzLG#ayBjorm

https://imgur.com/a/riBPPRr#0djbA72

While the Imaginary Tree has been praised as such a damn terrifying structure, yet, the Sea of Quanta has only been referred to as a "bathtub" or "puddle". Talking about the disrespect... lol.

we should not use cool names as an argument, this is at best considered as flowery language. counter argument: Sea of Quanta also has been praised like this before.

The Sea of Quanta only contains dead worlds that are fallen leaves from the Imaginary Tree:



the link doesn't work

It's been said that the Sea of Quanta only contains dead worlds that are only flown from the Imaginary Tree like an orange leaf, from an autumn tree.

With all this being said and all information provided up to this point inferred, we can deduce that the Imaginary Tree is indeed quantitatively superior to the Sea of Quanta from an uncountable scale. As the Sea of Quanta has not only been seen as insignificantly small compared to the Imaginary Tree but the latter has been interpreted as something that embodies Absolute Infinity and Transfinite concepts, with solid and qualitative transcendence over all worlds and timelines of the Honkai Multiverse.


No, the Sea of Quanta may contain dead worlds that are fallen leaves from an imaginary tree (the link doesn't work, but I believe you). This doesn't imply that Sea of Quanta is insignificant to Imaginary Tree. This would only prove dead worlds are insignificant compared to actual worlds. and i already said i disagree with Tree >> Sea to your other arguments

Part 3: The Sea of Quanta is a Hyperspace that encompasses 11-D worlds

This might be the most controversial section of the CRT, but considering even Dragon Ball qualified for retaining a Neutral Space with absolutely nothing in-verse supporting it, achieving a Neutral Space status for the Sea of Quanta should be explicitly easy.

uhhhh, why are we saying 'The arguments of other verse is bad, ours is better!'?

The Sea of Quanta acts akin to a bulk neutral hyperspace:



It's been affirmed that all of the Universes stored in the Sea of Quanta inherit 11-dimensional properties. The Sea of Quanta has been accepted to contain an infinite amount of those 11-D universes and serve as a medium for absolutely anything that corresponds to the properties that are correlated to the properties of its stored bubble universes.

The aforementioned information and context should serve as a premise for the Sea of Quanta being a 12-dimensional Neutral Hyperspace, as it acts like a medium to Infinite 11-D worlds while retaining its own axes, and even being an overarching void itself. Therefore, as said before with the leaves of the Imaginary Tree, the dead leads of the Sea of Quanta absolutely do not share any continuity and each is separated by their own space-time.

As to why containing lower-dimensional space-time counts as a higher-dimensional Neutral Space, I'll just link this CRT. Don't mind the title of that CRT or anything, as it barely has any in-verse explanation and it only elucidated dimensional tiering standards and philosophical shit, under overarching timelines.

The Honkai universe undoubtedly also has overarching timelines. I linked this gallery before and I'll do it again:

https://imgur.com/a/Wmt9Rqn#aSNQxuH

Not to mention the Sea of Quanta retains properties akin to a Brane Cosmology, as proven by Seele can freely traverse into different dimensions from the Sea of Quanta.


interesting, i am not very knowledgeable about this topic so i am neutral about that

The leaves of the Imaginary Tree is an Infinite 11-D structure, with every leaf having its own time that diverges infinitely:

The leaves of the Imaginary Tree each have their own time with each being fundamentally different, which could imply that each world has its own history. Welt also has said that there can be Infinite worlds for each universe; the statement heavily implies that each universe has its own time axis that can branch the timeline into infinite possibilities with the MWI serving as the basis. Now, with the aforementioned information deduced, we can conclude that each leaf world acts as its own timeline with infinite worlds a part of it. The Sea of Quanta contains the dead leaf worlds and serves as an overarching timeline residing on a transcendental axis, qualitatively beyond the 11-D leaf worlds.

Even more evidence to support the surmise of each leaf world having its own history: Gun Girls Z, Honkai: Star Rail and Genshin Impact are all worlds a part of the same Imaginary Tree in Honkai Impact 3rd; all three of these franchises have different histories and properties discrete from the Hi3rd universe, not to mention both franchises have their own separate games. For Honkai: Star Rail and GGZ, that's quite straightforward so no need to explain. As for Genshin, Dvalin was shown to have appeared on Otto's computer so it undoubtedly shows that Genshin is connected to Hi3.

As said before, since the Sea of Quanta contains dead leaves of the Imaginary Tree which are also bubble universes that are 11-D, we can concretely deduce that each leaf of the Imaginary Tree is an Infinite 11-D structure. The Sea of Quanta encompasses the dead Imaginary Tree leaves/11-D bubble universes as an extradimensional neutral hyperspace.

I agree with that, Tree is infinite sized 11-D structure, so both have the requirement of neutral space thing i guess. but doesn't otto calling the world they live as 4D space-time debunks leaf of imaginary tree's being 11D?

After all of the incessant yapping, let's head straight to the conclusion.

The Sea of Quanta will be upgraded to 1-B on an Infinite 12-D scale due to being a Neutral Hyperspace that contains all of the 11-D bubble worlds and timelines (Each bubble world is Infinite 11-D due to having to contain infinite worlds of itself).

The Imaginary Tree will be upgraded to 1-B on an Infinite 13-D scale due to being qualitatively superior to absolute everything which includes the Sea of Quanta and symbolising Absolute Infinity.

disagree with Tree being +1D than Sea of Quanta, especially it is blatantly stated that Sea of Quanta is the one who birthed Tree. but both being 1-B works i guess. Mods can decide that

TLDR; disagree with Imaginary Tree being +1D above Sea of Quanta, neutral about the neutral space argument
 
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we should not use cool names as an argument, this is at best considered as flowery language. counter argument: Sea of Quanta also has been praised like this before.
Nope. Only a root sprouted.
disagree with Tree being +1D than Sea of Quanta, especially it is blatantly stated that Sea of Quanta is the one who birthed Tree. but both being 1-B works i guess. Mods can decide that
First off, birthing something does not automatically makes it inferior. Also, what implies that tree is the imaginary tree?
 
Im pretty sure quanta rivarling tree and tree being born from that is flowery language and retconned in part 2 but im not sure i dont play mid (part 2 story)
 
Nope. Only a root sprouted.
First off, birthing something does not automatically makes it inferior. Also, what implies that tree is the imaginary tree?

hsr official wiki already accepts that young shroot is imaginary tree. About the second statement, Otto already says it is an imaginary tree. If you are talking about that, you can start from 58:10.

i didn't mean sea > tee, but sea = tree.

To me, Tree and Sea are their equals and rivals in the multiverse; both are equal to each other, and that's why Tree can't absorb Sea and Sea can't drown Tree. If one was superior, then the rivalry would end.
 
hsr official wiki already accepts that young shroot is imaginary tree. About the second statement, Otto already says it is an imaginary tree. If you are talking about that, you can start from 58:10.

i didn't mean sea > tee, but sea = tree.

To me, Tree and Sea are their equals and rivals in the multiverse; both are equal to each other, and that's why Tree can't absorb Sea and Sea can't drown Tree. If one was superior, then the rivalry would end.

About this.



It was revealed to us in the recent HSR update that the Tree is indeed unrivaled, which would take precedence over Otto's speech because it's newer information
 
I agree with the revision. 1-B is a bit of a lowball based on what we know, imho, but until the Tiering System is updated and revisions for higher Tiers can be made without problems it will be a good way to establish the Imaginary Tree as massively superior than the Sea of Quanta.
 
hsr official wiki already accepts that young shroot is imaginary tree. About the second statement, Otto already says it is an imaginary tree. If you are talking about that, you can start from 58:10.

i didn't mean sea > tee, but sea = tree.

To me, Tree and Sea are their equals and rivals in the multiverse; both are equal to each other, and that's why Tree can't absorb Sea and Sea can't drown Tree. If one was superior, then the rivalry would end.

Lol, didn’t knew about this. The Sea of Quanta is currently deemed as a void where the concept of space-time is irrelevant with only chaos, so I suppose when talking about “history”, it didn’t include the Sea of Quanta which eventually does make sense. Though, then again, just because something gave birth to something else does not explicitly mean that it’s inferior to it. A human can have an off-spring but that does not make the offspring stronger than the parent. Especially there are explicit statements that do say the Imaginary Tree is qualitatively superior to everything, even above the Sea of Quanta.

Also, moving onto the clip, Otto also talked about how the Imaginary Tree birthed everything and expanded beyond just a root sprouted from the Sea of Quanta.

The Imaginary Tree contains the Sea of Quanta anyways, making it a superior bulk space nonetheless.
 
I agree with the revision. 1-B is a bit of a lowball based on what we know, imho, but until the Tiering System is updated and revisions for higher Tiers can be made without problems it will be a good way to establish the Imaginary Tree as massively superior than the Sea of Quanta.
How high do you think it'll go?
 
Bruhh, this scan directly stated the sea is 11d which contradict your own notion of the sea being 12d, and if the sea being 12d then this scan itself wrong thus bubble isn't 11d, pick your poison
It says the bubble worlds inherit the 11-dimensions of the Sea of Quanta, which doesn’t mean it caps at 11-D. Nothing directly says that the property of the Sea of Quanta caps at only 11-D. Even if there was, it still acts like a Brane Cosmology nonetheless; it wouldn’t be possible for space-time to be stored in a space that has the same dimensionality as the space-time.
 
It's been affirmed that all of the Universes stored in the Sea of Quanta inherit 11-dimensional properties. The Sea of Quanta has been accepted to contain an infinite amount of those 11-D universes and serve as a medium for absolutely anything that corresponds to the properties that are correlated to the properties of its stored bubble universes.
That doesn't give you +1, like Vietthai says, not to mention the fact that the sea, which you are trying to upgrade 12-D, basically has a direct statement in the verse that it is 11-dimensional. Contradiction in itself
 
That doesn't give you +1, like Vietthai says, not to mention the fact that the sea, which you are trying to upgrade 12-D, basically has a direct statement in the verse that it is 11-dimensional. Contradiction in itself
It says the bubble worlds inherit the 11-dimensions of the Sea of Quanta, which doesn’t mean it caps at 11-D. Nothing directly says that the property of the Sea of Quanta caps at only 11-D. Even if there was, it still acts like a Brane Cosmology nonetheless; it wouldn’t be possible for space-time to be stored in a space that has the same dimensionality as the space-time.
^^Refer to this post.
 
It says the bubble worlds inherit the 11-dimensions of the Sea of Quanta, which doesn’t mean it caps at 11-D. Nothing directly says that the property of the Sea of Quanta caps at only 11-D. Even if there was, it still acts like a Brane Cosmology nonetheless; it wouldn’t be possible for space-time to be stored in a space that has the same dimensionality as the space-time.
No, it is fundamentally possible, the definition of 4-D spaces with a multivere is the same as this one
 
No, it is fundamentally possible, the definition of 4-D spaces with a multivere is the same as this one
It’s not. A space storing lower-dimensional space-time has to be higher-dimensional. Perhaps it doesn’t guarantee the tiering at that level (The hyperspace storing 4-D space-time continuums may not necessarily be Low 1-C but it is at least 5-D to a certain level), but it is higher dimensional.
 
^^Refer to this post.
It's been affirmed that all of the Universes stored in the Sea of Quanta inherit 11-dimensional properties. The Sea of Quanta has been accepted to contain an infinite amount of those 11-D universes and serve as a medium for absolutely anything that corresponds to the properties that are correlated to the properties of its stored bubble universes.
There is a still problem, that's not give you +1 basically
The aforementioned information and context should serve as a premise for the Sea of Quanta being a 12-dimensional Neutral Hyperspace, as it acts like a medium to Infinite 11-D worlds while retaining its own axes, and even being an overarching void itself. Therefore, as said before with the leaves of the Imaginary Tree, the dead leads of the Sea of Quanta absolutely do not share any continuity and each is separated by their own space-time.
As to why containing lower-dimensional space-time counts as a higher-dimensional Neutral Space, I'll just link this CRT. Don't mind the title of that CRT or anything, as it barely has any in-verse explanation and it only elucidated dimensional tiering standards and philosophical shit, under overarching timelines.
The revision you cite uses the hypertimeline argument, unlike yours, where you use the "higher spatial dimension" argument. They are different arguments and the context of the two verses is different.

Also, as I said, an 11 dimensional space can hold 11 dimensional space-times. This is just like a 4-D/tier 2 infinite space can hold a classical 4-D/tier 2 multiverse.

Anyway, I don't agree with 12-D but 2 staff already agree , maybe I can deal it myself after
 
It’s not. A space storing lower-dimensional space-time has to be higher-dimensional. Perhaps it doesn’t guarantee the tiering at that level (The hyperspace storing 4-D space-time continuums may not necessarily be Low 1-C but it is at least 5-D to a certain level), but it is higher dimensional.
I was talking about axes that will "qualify", this applies to all spaces, but they don't qualify.

It's the same here, even though that space has a 12th axis, the part of space that qualifies (or rather the part that has the volume and universal axis to qualify) is only found in the 11th dimension. The 12th axis is only an axis of insignificant sized and does not qualify for 1-B
 
It says the bubble worlds inherit the 11-dimensions of the Sea of Quanta, which doesn’t mean it caps at 11-D. Nothing directly says that the property of the Sea of Quanta caps at only 11-D
No hard feeling but, you claim that the Sea isn't limit to 11d, which is a claim that you need to prove, especially since the scan itself contradict your claim, it directly stated the Sea is 11d, so the argument that, nothing said the sea is cap at 11d do not work
Even if there was, it still acts like a Brane Cosmology nonetheless; it wouldn’t be possible for space-time to be stored in a space that has the same dimensionality as the space-time.
Huh???, what??, do you know that Brane Cosmology, which is a theory that related to String theory, Superstring theory and M-theory??, while String theory require 26 dimensions, M-Theory is 10-11 dimensions, which the verse itself follow exactly the M-theory with 11 dimensions. And no, before you saying anything that Brane Cosmology cap at 26 dimensions due to String theory, then the Sea can be 12 or 13d, etc....No due with Brane Cosmology, it is either 10 to 11d via M-Theory, or 26d via early String theory, there is no other number in between

Secondly, the Sea being hyperspace and bulk is exactly what made the verse 11d via Brane Cosmology, make it higher than 11d or lower than 10d will pratically debunk the entire verse being Brane Cosmology thus contradict what the verse directly stated, and this is why this entire show break down bruhh. That why i said, pick your poison
 
No hard feeling but, you claim that the Sea isn't limit to 11d, which is a claim that you need to prove, especially since the scan itself contradict your claim, it directly stated the Sea is 11d, so the argument that, nothing said the sea is cap at 11d do not work

Huh???, what??, do you know that Brane Cosmology, which is a theory that related to String theory, Superstring theory and M-theory??, while String theory require 26 dimensions, M-Theory is 10-11 dimensions, which the verse itself follow exactly the M-theory with 11 dimensions. And no, before you saying anything that Brane Cosmology cap at 26 dimensions due to String theory, then the Sea can be 12 or 13d, etc....No due with Brane Cosmology, it is either 10 to 11d via M-Theory, or 26d via early String theory, there is no other number in between

Secondly, the Sea being hyperspace and bulk is exactly what made the verse 11d via Brane Cosmology, make it higher than 11d or lower than 10d will pratically debunk the entire verse being Brane Cosmology thus contradict what the verse directly stated, and this is why this entire show break down bruhh. That why i said, pick your poison
I only remember soq following theories,why would this only affect entire verse,are you saying even img tree is following this,then entire absolute infinity,transfinity and whatever goofy terms game has is suddenly useless,and...for the love of god no this is not the reason verse breaks down, yall claim to be supporters then spawn out of nowhere where verse is about to get upgraded,(and it turns out we are wrong and yall are right) and take a deep winter slumber when person pops up and downgrades verse in worst possible way...
 
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There is a still problem, that's not give you +1 basically
It does apply for the Sea of Quanta (it mentions everything is infinite, operates from the MWI and quantum fluctuations which is an uncountable amount of universes). Check the previous CRT I linked at the start of the OP.
The revision you cite uses the hypertimeline argument, unlike yours, where you use the "higher spatial dimension" argument. They are different arguments and the context of the two verses is different.
I remember the DB neutral space used the insignificant 5-D argument. Wrong CRT? Unsure.
Also, as I said, an 11 dimensional space can hold 11 dimensional space-times. This is just like a 4-D/tier 2 infinite space can hold a classical 4-D/tier 2 multiverse.
No. The logic applies for all dimensions.
I was talking about axes that will "qualify", this applies to all spaces, but they don't qualify.

It's the same here, even though that space has a 12th axis, the part of space that qualifies (or rather the part that has the volume and universal axis to qualify) is only found in the 11th dimension. The 12th axis is only an axis of insignificant sized and does not qualify for 1-B
Check the previous accepted CRT I linked. It applies for the of Sea of Quanta.
No hard feeling but, you claim that the Sea isn't limit to 11d, which is a claim that you need to prove, especially since the scan itself contradict your claim, it directly stated the Sea is 11d, so the argument that, nothing said the sea is cap at 11d do not work
This is a burden of proof fallacy. Nothing direct states that it’s only 11-D. Even with that aside honestly, if we’re going by statements about the SoQ then we also have hilbert space and infinite-D type of crap, which just makes it generally inconsistent.
Huh???, what??, do you know that Brane Cosmology, which is a theory that related to String theory, Superstring theory and M-theory??, while String theory require 26 dimensions, M-Theory is 10-11 dimensions, which the verse itself follow exactly the M-theory with 11 dimensions. And no, before you saying anything that Brane Cosmology cap at 26 dimensions due to String theory, then the Sea can be 12 or 13d, etc....No due with Brane Cosmology, it is either 10 to 11d via M-Theory, or 26d via early String theory, there is no other number in between
I liked how you just cycled around everything with this. And you do realise String Theories only apply for a single universe.
Secondly, the Sea being hyperspace and bulk is exactly what made the verse 11d via Brane Cosmology, make it higher than 11d or lower than 10d will pratically debunk the entire verse being Brane Cosmology thus contradict what the verse directly stated, and this is why this entire show break down bruhh. That why i said, pick your poison
How so? I mean, by you saying this, you mean that bubble worlds are 10-D, but it’s actually 11-D on the current accepted cosmological scale so…

Anyways, I’m fuсking done with this shit. Unless anyone has additional/different arguments with filed evidence towards this, I ain’t replying to shit. I goddamn missed a flight due to this CRT and trying to satisfy ungrateful Hoyoverse weeaboos by working my ass off to upgrade a dead verse with absolutely dogshit profiles. This is all I have to say to the current discussion brought up.
 
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Anyways, I’m fuсking done with this shit. Unless anyone has additional/different arguments with filed evidence towards this, I ain’t replying to shit. I goddamn missed a flight due to this CRT and trying to satisfy ungrateful Hoyoverse weeaboos by working my ass off to upgrade a dead verse with absolutely dogshit profiles. This is all I have to say to the current discussion brought up.
misssing the flight over a debate is crazy,and thats on you since you like to post crt instanteniously you ******* unpatient idiot :D
 
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