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Sounds like type 3
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Honkai impact big upgrades and some minor downgrades
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Will someone tag a staff for evaluation?
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I just changed something, you can re-add it later.
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They're type 3 likely 2 i think.
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It is type 3 because those concept are being bound by certain object, thing, etc
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If my cognition has ordered correctly , proficient honkai user can manifest abstract shadow and command them the shadow ( aka quantum being ) have a function of projector which screen information to reallity , so why did the projector are bounded by projection ?
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The concept are being bound by Honkai, if the Honkai disappear, the concept also disappear, if Honkai being altered, the concept is also being altered. So yes it is type 3
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Did you miss something ? , They never said there's concept of honkai and never bounded by honkai.
The quantum being = Concept , which born from emotions , desire , thoughts. They have a same perspective like JJK where's human can create concept by thier minds , but the concept in our questions has demonstrated to be a projector of reallity which is fair comparisom to plato cave.
The quantum being = Concept , which born from emotions , desire , thoughts. They have a same perspective like JJK where's human can create concept by thier minds , but the concept in our questions has demonstrated to be a projector of reallity which is fair comparisom to plato cave.
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Emotion, Desire and Thought are type 3 at best, actually i think it is type 4
Also when did Quantum = Concept ???
Also when did Quantum = Concept ???
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I’ll tag them soon
However the conceptual stuff seems to need a tad bit more discussion but it’s shouldn’t take too long
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We are not staff, can't tag them in iirc, should leave a letter in their wall
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It's not hard , emotions , desire , thought = quantum shadow = concept they're shared a same nature as the sea of quanta which projector of reality , also you can be type 2 by stated how transcendance between concept and reality only not by the words do you have used to call it.
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Oh yeah ofc that’s what I meant
It’s just faster to say they’ll be tagged
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How it'll become type 4 as it can affect reality?
Take a look Non-Physical Interaction in Honkai energy page.
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Would any of you be willing to evaluate this please?
Would any of you be willing to evaluate this please?
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Like i said, at best it is type 3
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I personally agree with type 3 as I also said earlier
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I'll point out that this isn't necessarily true for emotions and desire. Depending on how a setting treats them, they can even be Type 1.
That said, I'm not seeing what would make this brand of concept manipulation anything more than Type 3. Could someone send the main scans that suupport this?
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I know, but it is very specific to make this kind of concept to be type 1
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The concept itself have said allegedly to be a projector of reality they can even projected abstract and metaphysics to our world. This qualify for type 2 ?
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1. All you prove is that other character needs to be scrutinized more.
2. That's an overstatement. We get one projector quote and another talking about the definition of metaphysics. Nothing more.
If you really feel it qualifies then I guess you can wait for more staff to offer input.
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Type 3 looks legit enough
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1. No matter is other char or not , the matter is they've used same feat and standard of thier function.
2.i'd focus point on you , the projector was project the reality (including abstracts things) into the real world (i mean this).
Also pls reply my question properly , why did just using projection analogy is vague ? , What a feat you need more , the scans were told that the concpept treated the reality as movie on screen i always thought this is enought.
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I mean if they use the same feat then they should be looked at since it should likely be downgraded as well.
I said the projector feat looks promising but even then the statement is just "everything is a projection of the outside world". The other two don't provide anything beyond a definition of metaphysics and some talk of reading information.
I'm not gonna take that and extrapolate Type 2 for some reason.
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No, they didn't. That one is quite unique unlike the rest.
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I see.
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I can check the visual novel for more context, since I believe we only have a limited amount avaliable on the wiki. Note: I'm not well versed in the whole concept stuff so
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This's not enought ? , if it not i should put it likely/possibly due to they touched a some requirement.
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Wait a minute, when enter a quantum state means you enter the Quantum sea, would it qualify for BFR too?
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it should also be BFR
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Then add BFR and re-add what I wrote to the post too.
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So we can confidently say Type 3 is the most agreed on for now
Aight
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If for a basic quantum control, Yes. The rest will be discussed after this one done.
It might made this thread be a big mess if we continue to claiming for type 2 concept
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Fair point honestly
Everything else is straight forward and agreed upon if someone wants to upgrade from Type 3 concept they can make another thread
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Yeah lets leave the controversial concept stuff out. And focus on the main part which I believe everyone agrees on (AP stuff)
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Ok so we’re gonna go with type 3 for now so if upgrades are desired from there another thread will simply be made
So does this thread have the evaluation?
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