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You should probably re-read it because quite a bit of the things you claimed from the VN are just blatantly not the case.
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Honkai Impact 3rd
- Thread starter Smolice
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I mean the percentage would literally have to be 8.6e-10% to not be an Anti feat lol
Although the way how you are phrasing less advanced makes it sound less like AP and more like they are more haxed in the current era
For example Welt Joyce maybe could push his HoR abilities more than the PE 1st Herrscher to make more complex objects although since you said it’s some form of spoiler just correct me if that’s not the case
Although don’t go too in detail on why because I don’t wanna get spoiled
I understand what it would be awkward to have a jump like
As a mock example
6-C | High 6-C | Low 5-B | At least Low 5-B
Compared to say
6-C | High 6-C | 6-A likely, High 6-A | 5-C
But other verses have had them enormous jumps
So i will view this all as Semi Neutral for now
I’ll also read the Durandal Vn’s just to see how legit this all is
Although Anti Entropy VN is my main priority rn to finish reading as much as possible
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I'm personally for characters that fought Bianca that currently are 6-A, likely H6A to be possibly upped to just H6A (if the Kevin stuff goes as planned), and then just have a likely small planet level.
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I've re-read it again
About fused with the sword seems legit
But I doubt about the destruction of the sword
The statement told us the four-fifth of the world has been destroyed but as we know that the structure of the said world is quitely weird (As its core linked with the worm hole that coordinated with the sea and surface as a spine of the world.) Europe may be larger than our Europe or the world is smaller than our world. I think it's safe to use Europe destruction instead of 1/5 of the world and it's to be more consistent by regarding her other accomplishments (Fought Multi-Continent people after amped by Multi-Continent power, Yup looks good)
About fused with the sword seems legit
But I doubt about the destruction of the sword
The statement told us the four-fifth of the world has been destroyed but as we know that the structure of the said world is quitely weird (As its core linked with the worm hole that coordinated with the sea and surface as a spine of the world.) Europe may be larger than our Europe or the world is smaller than our world. I think it's safe to use Europe destruction instead of 1/5 of the world and it's to be more consistent by regarding her other accomplishments (Fought Multi-Continent people after amped by Multi-Continent power, Yup looks good)
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Honestly reading the text I kinda interpreted the text as meaning 1/5th of the earths land mass there
As in all the continents and not taking a chunk out of the deeper mantle
But just ending at continental crust in terms of depth which based on what I read with the context I was given makes more sense?
But I haven’t read the Durandal Vn so I’m probably wrong to say that
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The Earth should be the absolute same size as our own, otherwise the gravity would be messed up. As for the wormholes, they're just there for some reason. For us to assume it's smaller than our Earth we'd need actual proof. It seems to perfectly mirror our own planet apart from the wormholes. As for the walls, more than just europe was engulfed from what I remember, but Europe was the starting point and was the entirely engulfed one.
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The gravity may not be the case, as Ether anchor can modify any laws within the world, it would be applied to that
The proof is about the alien structure of the world
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That's not proof that it's smaller than our own planet. That just means it's more complicated geometry. Either way we later literally see the Earth from space and it's very much a replica of our own Earth.
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How do you know it's replica? They said that the world was not formed naturally, and the more complicated geometry means the structure of world is not the same as our world, the calculation would be applied for only continental land mass.
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I can't even begin saying how wrong this is
Read the next lines, they literally say that it's a result of the previous era making a microcosm. Also the complicated geometry refferes to the tunnel passing through the Earth, not the actual planet itself, the planet itself is just full of wormholes because of said tunnel.
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Then why Europe is regarded as 1/5 of the world if it was really a replica of real world?
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Just to jab my little two sense in here
On normal earth Europe is 6.7% of the earths total surface area
Decently smaller than a 1/5th
Just saying a bit
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You do realize that it means in ground too, not just surface area, but beneath the surface too. Right?
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Tbf what is considered Europe in our world doesn’t go thousands of kilometers into the ground
Surface area is kinda what we mean when it comes to contiennts
Plus even if you took a Europe sized chunk and made it deep enough to reach the earths core and plucked that chunk it out it wouldn’t come close to a 1/5th of the entire planet
In fact Asia is only a over a 1/5th when it comes to surface area although a chunk that big stretching to to the core would likely be much larger than even 2/5ths of the earth idk
This screams either big Europe or really small planet
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Bianca destroyed what was within the walls, we don't know where they stopped so they likely expanded into Asia to some extent. They dont go over water, as we saw them in a panel literally standing at a cliff for a long ass time.
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Alright then I’ll probably have to see the Durandal VN myself to see if stretching into Asia is a justified assumption of not since it would have to stretch deep into Asia to account for Europe just being a really small continent(lol)
But if that’s how it happened that’s how it happened
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It's just an assumption then, the best conclusion I can think of now is the Europe is as the same as our Europe and You Landale potential is safe to assume that can top for High 6-A currently
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Although due to these walls stretching further if that’s all we go with “for now”
It would warrant a likely higher rating since there was more that was destroyed but the amount more isn’t known
It would warrant a likely higher rating since there was more that was destroyed but the amount more isn’t known
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Btw, are you thai? Or just to see it by chance?
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Chapter update confirmed what I said further, the 10th herrscher in the previous era was physically much weaker than the CE version. The PE version was the 10th Herrscher, while this one is the 8th or 7th depending on if you count Rimestone as one or two herrschers.
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also when the next update comes out HoL will get cancer scaling, so yeah. Yieks
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Thai who? .-.
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That's not what they said. They said that the current era's Herrschers are different from those of the previous era in terms of abilities, not that they were stronger or weaker.
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They did indirectly say it.
"humanity evolved"
"the herrscher was weak"
ECT.
Reading context is important
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Humanity evolving doesn't always mean stronger honkai, nor does strong honkai require an advanced level of human civilization. Chiyou, a kaiju-sized judgment class, came into existence back in the days of ancient Shenzhou thousands of years ago when people fought with bows and swords. I also don't recall them outright saying that the Herrscher was weak in the chapter, just different.
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No they literally said that the last eras herrscher was weak. It literally used regular humans as puppets, this one has puppets that can casually fight Seele. The difference in even raw power is huge
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I'll rewatch it later, but even if the 10th is stronger than its previous counterpart, it doesn't mean that all current era herrschers are stronger than their previous era counterparts. The 10th has always been a unique one.
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The 8th is the legion, the 8th is much stronger than than the 10th, both pure strength and hax wise. Also yes it does imply something when the 8th is MASSIVLEY stronger than the 10th whose entire strength was in their hax
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More like current era they are better and have been "evolve"
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Theyre
Literally stronger. The existence of the God keys would've literally shot humanity to a new level which caused Pseudo herrschers to exist when they barely could use mfing swords
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Actually we don't even have much information on how strong 1st to 3rd Herrscher of Previous Era are??
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I mean didn’t the 10th herrscher in the past need Dr Mei in a vermillion Knight battle suit which is a god key and several Mantises to bring her down?
This means the gap between them can’t really be to the point where the current era HoD just breaths on the PE one and she’d die
But honestly we don’t really have a lot of info on how strong the PE herrschers did like the 1st to 6th
The most we have are Kevin beating the 9th and the 11th on his own with Shamash
And the 7th and 9th herrschers feats
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We know that they're stronger. Welt, while His core was literally in dozens of pieces powered the might of an utu and Yeeted shamash To 300%, aka might of an utu
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Where was it stated welt charged it
All I remember was the sword detecting Sirin’s Honkai energy and removing the limiter
“Second Herrscher core energy detected, Initiate Ambient charging”
Ambient refering to the immediate surroundings likely meaning it used some of Sirin’s leaking Honkai energy to give it that final kick it needed
All welt did was motivate Siegfried
And Siegfried was healed by Cecilia
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We see Sieg literally use the crushed core that was prior in Sirin, hence why it detected Sirin
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Thats because the HoL at that point was a massive hivemind that at least had 1000 bodies all around. So it'd generally be hard to kill
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No, the 8th is Fu Hua. Or rather, the 8th of the previous era later was Fu Hua, HoS. Some of the current era Herrschers are out of order and don't have the same chronological order as they did in the previous era.
Right, shamash's large aoe was required to kill all of them in one go. But an individual is much weaker.
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No? Herrschers don't have an order they come in
1. Reason
2. Void
3. Thunder
4. Wind
5. Ice
6. Star
7. Sentience
8. Legion
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