High 6-C Fire and Cold Tournament 2022: Meliodas vs Kamen Rider Durendal (Semi-Final 2)

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

• Aura, Fear Manipulation, Paralaysis Inducement, Enhanced Senses: Just with mere presence they can make a weaker being like Hendriskson feel fear and paralyzed. The Sins were scared by Monspeet's aura. Galand can make Diane scared, his sheer presence completely overwhelmed Slader's Overpower magic.

Where is actually the deconstruction part? Copied it at the page itself

 

[speedster352]

No it isn't even said in the Demon Clan Physiology Page no where it says that

High ranking demon physiology stop selcitve reading

Doesn’t Mel need to actually touch his opponents to actually decon them?

decon aura

 

[BERRIES555]

It’s makes the soul scared…..simply saying it affects the soul doesn’t mean anything.

 

[speedster352]

• Aura, Fear Manipulation, Paralaysis Inducement, Enhanced Senses: Just with mere presence they can make a weaker being like Hendriskson feel fear and paralyzed. The Sins were scared by Monspeet's aura. Galand can make Diane scared, his sheer presence completely overwhelmed Slader's Overpower magic.

Where is actually the deconstruction part? Copied it at the page itself

I said for true magic

• Spatial Manipulation: Higher rank Demons like Estarossa and Zeldris can destroy dimension.

It’s makes the soul scared…..simply saying it affects the soul doesn’t mean anything.

Yes it does that soul manipulation

 

[speedster352]

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Magic, Extrasensory Perception, Expert Swordsmanship, Martial Arts, Darkness Manipulation (Can generate and manipulate solid darkness from his body to form various constructs), Weapon Creation (Can create weapons out of solid darkness), Flight, Regeneration (Mid), Sealing (Sealed Gelda), Attack Reflection (Can reflect magic attacks and amplify them. Meliodas has also shown the ability to reflect non magical Darkness and Lightning), Power Nullification (Can disperse magic attacks), Statistics Amplification (His magic power increases at night), Rage Power (Increased his power with his emotions despite being heavily injured), Telepathy, Air Manipulation (Can make air blades with swords), Aura (Can project a visible dragon-shaped aura with killing intent), Hellfire Manipulation (Purgatory fire nullifies up to Mid-High regeneration), Soul Manipulation (Demons remove and eat souls, destroying them completely), Duplication (Can create weaker clones of himself with Lostvayne), Power Absorption (Can absorb others' commandments, which are demonic curses), Absorption (Can power himself by absorbing the damage he takes), Immortality (Types 1, 3, and 4), Body Control, Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with souls), Information Manipulation (Can gain knowledge of other by eating souls), Self-Sustenance (Type 2), Forcefield Creation and Power Nullification (Can create a barrier of darkness that destroy any kind of magic pass through it, even Merlin's teleportation), Passive Status Effect Inducement, Disease Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Corrosion Inducement (Meliodas exudes a miasma that causes weaker beings to feel sick, even ones as powerful as Post-Training King. Miasma also prone to rot and decay other's mind and body), Resurrection (Returns to life every time he dies after a month has passed), Demon Clan Physiology, Enhanced Power Nullification (Superior to 2 Commandments Estarossa)
All previous abilities minus Immortality (Type 4) and Resurrection. Danmaku, Resistance Negation (Tyrant Killing can bypass the inherent resistance to darkness-based attacks of the Supreme Deity), Possibly Weather Manipulation, Deconstruction (Destroyed the Demon King's arm), Environmental Destruction (His presence off-sets the balance of the world, generating cataclysms like earthquakes and destructive storms), Possibly Durability Negation, Curse Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (with True Magic Power), Resistant to Mind Manipulation and Illusion Creation, Electricity Manipulation (Can withstand the Supreme Deity's God Thunder)

Meliodas abilties.

 

[IxaSaga2]

It worked on the sins who wore armour. It's affactes the soul in excalibuer stop with the selective reading. here Fear Manipulation (His aura terrified the souls within Excalibur), Any counters to Meliodas passive hax and deconstruction and resistance negation via true magic? Meliodas has spacial manipulation which is passive and superior to 2c Estarossa so he breaks that ability of due. Also half your arguments were fabricated since it wasn't on his profile at the time and it's against the rules.

Oh gotcha. Don't say my things were fabricated. It wasn't on his profile but it was very much in the show. I just forgot to put it in. It going to be official if the revision goes through.

It affects the souls ad he has no soul resistance. Meliodas has new hax including spacial manipulation to counter his ability.
Demon Clan Physiology, True magic aura can deconstruct

I mean, doesn't Supernatural Willpower come from the soul too? I also said Meliodas' projectiles and attacks can be broken with NPI so idk why you keep bringing them up.

Also, Saber riders resist (didn't get effected at all) by deconstruction of this level.

 

[BERRIES555]

Dawg I honestly don’t know how you’d think scaring the soul of an opponent would mean anything. Like sure, yes it’s soul Hax…..very weak soul Hax.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I said for true magic

• Spatial Manipulation: Higher rank Demons like Estarossa and Zeldris can destroy dimension.

Yes it does that soul manipulation

There's no deconstruction on the aura even said in the profile

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Now you're making things up

 

[speedster352]

Oh gotcha. Don't say my things were fabricated. It wasn't on his profile but it was very much in the show. I just forgot to put it in. It going to be official if the revision goes through.


I mean, doesn't Supernatural Willpower come from the soul too? I also said Meliodas' projectiles and attacks can be broken with NPI so idk why you keep bringing them up.

Also, Saber riders resist (didn't get effected at all) by deconstruction of this level.

Resistance Negation Which Meliodas has with true magic.

There's no deconstruction on the aura even said in the profile

Meliodas aura

 

[speedster352]

Now you're making things up

this is aura

Dawg I honestly don’t know how you’d think scaring the soul of an opponent would mean anything. Like sure, yes it’s soul Hax…..very weak soul Hax.

That's fine

 

[BERRIES555]

It honestly depends how good the res negation is. Not only that, the riders that Ixa sent already resist res negation, several layers of it

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

this is aura

This doesn't even prove it passive deconstruction or deconstruction

 

[speedster352]

It honestly depends how good the res negation is. Not only that, the riders that Ixa sent already resist res negation, several layers of it

Nope it's layered resitance negation Ark decon<high ranking demon, domain of god decon< 2c Esstarossa resitance< Higher ranking demons resistance<Zeldris and Meliodas reistance<Demon king<True magic rsitance negation I need scans for his layers stronger decon is not a layer

Not even deconstruction also what chapter is this?

Nitpicking it's accepted on his profile

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Nope it's layered resitance negation Ark decon<high ranking demon, domain of god decon< 2c Esstarossa resitance< Higher ranking demons resistance<Zeldris and Meliodas reistance<Demon king<True magic rsitance negation I need scans for his layers stronger decon is not a layer

Nitpicking it's accepted on his profile

As Deconstruction not Passive aura deconstruction also what chapter is the scan that you sent?

 

[speedster352]

Yes we can do it seeing as you're using it as one of Meliodas' Win Cons.

This is what I found:

This is Meliodas with no Aura, destroying the Curses with a ranged attack, doesn't extend or use an Aura.

This is what Meliodas looks like with an Aura. Here he extends his Aura to Deconstruct the Commandments

True Magic Form has an Aura that Meliodas can extend and that can Deconstruct

Here

 

[speedster352]

As Deconstruction not Passive aura deconstruction also what chapter is the scan that you sent?

Nitpicking it's accepted on his profile

Here

 

[BERRIES555]

Again it depends on how good the res negation is. And it also depends on how good the decon is

 

[speedster352]

Nope it's layered resitance negation Ark decon<high ranking demon, domain of god decon< 2c Esstarossa resitance< Higher ranking demons resistance<Zeldris and Meliodas reistance<Demon king<True magic resitance negation I need scans for his layers stronger decon is not a layer

Again it depends on how good the res negation is

It's extremely layered and it's also resitance negation

 

[Popted2]

Hey Guys i have something to say, if Durendal would win this fight, he would have to fight Grimgor wich Grim already beat him

so how about this: we let Meliodas advance the fight, and you can discuss of this match later, okay?

 

[IxaSaga2]

Here

That aura looks lke a projectile. It only extrudes from Melio's attacks and body within a few inches and then Meliodas can shoot it out.

Again, you keep ignoring my NPI point counters it. I also don't get how those attacks will get to Durendal at all with Time hax.

Hey Guys i have something to say, if Durendal would win this fight, he would have to fight Grimgor wich Grim already beat him

so how about this: we let Meliodas advance the fight, and you can discuss of this match later, okay?

That's what I suggested. So we already let this happen.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Nitpicking it's accepted on his profile

It's accepted but not as a passive aura deconstruction and also what's the chap?

 

[BERRIES555]

Sure if you want, this debate is basically unless since Durendal lost of Grim

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

That aura looks lke a projectile. It only extrudes from Melio's attacks and body within a few inches and then Meliodas can shoot it out.

Again, you keep ignoring my NPI point counters it. I also don't get how those attacks will get to Durendal at all with Time hax.

That's what I suggested. So we already let this happen.

Even if we let mel win he gets shit stomp by grim which doesn't change anything other than Durendal beat Mel or Mel beat Durendal

 

[Popted2]

Even if we let mel win he gets shit stomp by grim which doesn't change anything other than Durendal beat Mel or Mel beat Durendal

yes but at least this debate will be over or talked later

 

[speedster352]

That aura looks lke a projectile. It only extrudes from Melio's attacks and body within a few inches and then Meliodas can shoot it out.

Again, you keep ignoring my NPI point counters it. I also don't get how those attacks will get to Durendal at all with Time hax.

That's what I suggested. So we already let this happen.

Thanks man sorry for being blunt no hard feelings?

 

[speedster352]

yes but at least this debate will be over or talk later

I agree

 

[IxaSaga2]

Even if we let mel win he gets shit stomp by grim which doesn't change anything other than Durendal beat Mel or Mel beat Durendal

I mean even if that happens, Durendal and Grimgor already battled so finals gonna be a repeat which wouldn't be fun.

Also, I thought the semis were supposed to be Grimgor vs Meliodas and Vulcan vs Durendal, since its #1 of A vs #2 of B and vice versa. The semis already happened so it is what it is.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Wouldn't added to the profile tho since we just move mel up and Durendal didn't actually losed vote wise right?

 

[Popted2]

Wouldn't added to the profile tho since we just move mel up and Durendal didn't actually losed vote wise

of course

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

I mean even if that happens, Durendal and Grimgor already battled so finals gonna be a repeat which wouldn't be fun.

Also, I thought the semis were supposed to be Grimgor vs Meliodas and Vulcan vs Durendal, since its #1 of A vs #2 of B and vice versa. The semis already happened so it is what it is.

Well if that's what you want then i guess Grimgor vs Meliodas it is

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

of course

3 pages of debates turns into this kinda funny ngl is the final battle the next battle? or there would be more?

 

[speedster352]

of course

Both verses have crt ongoing so it can't be added anyway

 

[IxaSaga2]

Thanks man sorry for being blunt no hard feelings?

nah, It's okay.

Both verses have crt ongoing so it can't be added anyway

So we debated a whole 3 pages but nothing really happens

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yeah, truth be told.....i actually planned to make Vulcan and Durendal fight each other in this tourney

 

[Popted2]

3 pages of debates turns into this kinda funny ngl is the final battle the next battle? or there would be more?

yes the next is gonna be the final battle, wich will be the final meal for Grimgor

 

[IxaSaga2]

Just make two finals

 

[speedster352]

yes the next is gonna be the final battle, wich will be the final meal for Grimgor

What do you mean? Meliodas has mad hax now

 

[VsReferee]

HOLD ON!! I still have my counter

Well, uhm.. my counter is entirely different.

so, 4 words: uhm Meliodas vs Golgius

The reason why Meliodas could block the attacks were because his combat sense was already excellent.
The dude doesn't have teleportation ability, but even if he had, Meliodas would still block the moment he attacks.

You may say: yea but that is different because Meliodas can't attack due to memory erasure.
I was thinking about that. I wondered how far that memory erasure goes. Look at the following gif:

The dudes in the gif have no recollection of fighting him, but the were still looking for him.
So your memory is intact before the time hax.

If you were fighting this dude, you would like "Huh?! doode just stood there??". You would automatically think it's some kind teleportation due to this dude poppin everywhere and attacking.

The dudes in the gif missed something Meliodas has since season 1: excellent combat sense.
The scans I provided are only some of the examples that shows his exceptional perception.

Here's some more

• Galand escaping teleportation after activation (Meliodas ragdolled this him later)
• Gilthunder attacked Meliodas unexpectedly from the clouds
• Bonus (this is impressive! I mean, let me clean you from an insect with a flamethrower lol?)
• and there are more lol

This shows that Meliodas had excellent combat sense and accuracy all along.
This Meliodas is faaar from full power Meliodas in his "god" form

Based on feats, Meliodas should be able to counter Durendal's time-skip hax by just reacting to his presence around him.
Having memory of him popping everywhere is enough for Meliodas lol.

Meliodas could react like this

Durendal doesn't win that easily it seems

 

[speedster352]

HOLD ON!! I still have my counter

Well, uhm.. my counter is entirely different.

so, 4 words: uhm Meliodas vs Golgius

The reason why Meliodas could block the attacks were because his combat sense was already excellent.
The dude doesn't have teleportation ability, but even if he had, Meliodas would still block the moment he attacks.

You may say: yea but that is different because Meliodas can't attack due to memory erasure.
I was thinking about that. I wondered how far that memory erasure goes. Look at the following gif:

The dudes in the gif have no recollection of fighting him, but the were still looking for him.
So your memory is intact before the time hax.

If you were fighting this dude, you would like "Huh?! doode just stood there??". You would automatically think it's some kind teleportation due to this dude poppin everywhere and attacking.

The dudes in the gif missed something Meliodas has since season 1: excellent combat sense.
The scans I provided are only some of the examples that shows his exceptional perception.

Here's some more

• Galand escaping teleportation after activation (Meliodas ragdolled this him later)
• Gilthunder attacked Meliodas unexpectedly from the clouds
• Bonus (this is impressive! I mean, let me clean you from an insect with a flamethrower lol?)
• and there are more lol

This shows that Meliodas had excellent combat sense and accuracy all along.
This Meliodas is faaar from full power Meliodas in his "god" form

Based on feats, Meliodas should be able to counter Durendal's time-skip hax by just reacting to his presence around him.
Having memory of him popping everywhere is enough for Meliodas lol.

Meliodas could react like this

Durendal doesn't win that easily it seems

I agree well done and Meliodas also has passive hax. Also Meliodas proceeds to next match anyway