High 2-A for Rune King Thor

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Yes. That is the title. And No. This isn't fun and games. I believe High 2-A is the proper tier for Rune King Thor.

In this essay, I will describe why I believe this tier is most fitting and provide scans to back up my arguments.

1. Yggdrasil is a 5D structure.

Yggdrasil holds the 9 realms which on many occasions have been described as complete universes. And possibly more universes.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4646354-lt4ez.jpg

Because it is a fabric that connects multiple 4D structures (the universees) it must be 5D.

2. Rune King Thor destroyed yggdrasil

http://i.imgur.com/xXxky7D.png

http://i.imgur.com/sOnOSEs.png

http://i.imgur.com/YBfnnjQ.png

http://i.imgur.com/LLaFWEB.png

RKT doesn't only destroy the nine realms. Nay. He destroys the tabernacle and yggdrasil which causes it the nine realms to collapse and be destroyed.

And that's really it. Yggdrasil is a 5d object and RKT destroyed it.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

There is an actual statement abou tthis later on. However... The feat of destroying Yggdrassil is only 2-C at best...Because tormenting it,caused this . Secondly... Connecting multiple 4-D structures... Is still 4-D, not 5-D .

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

The yggdrasil doesn't just connect mltiple 4-D structures. it contains them which makes it a 5D structure.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That's still 4-D though. By that logic every 2-C embodiment would become High 2-A

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

No. I made a thread about this and was given well informed answers and explanations.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1578726

There's a difference between destroying the 4-D structures (2-C through 2-A) within in a 5-D structure and destroying the specific 5-D (High 2-A) structure that holds the 4-D structures.

RKT specifcally is destroying the 5-D structure not just the 4-D universes.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

bumpu

 

[YungManzi]

umm I'm with 2nd seed on this....But I don't know much about marvel, so imma just wait for more input.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not think that we can count like this. 9 universal continuums that are connected to each other are still just counted as 2-C, regardless that they are aligned along a 5-D axis. Sorry.

 

[Antvasima]

But you can ask Matthew to give input here.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

BUmping this and I messedaged Matthew.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yggdrasil is not 5D, merely connecting universes physically does not make it 5D. It can literally be burnt.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Also Thor didn't destroy Yggdrasil or else he'd be destroying the Nine Realms. He destroyed the Norns' Loom of Fate on which the endless Cycle of Ragnarok was bound. He destroyed the pretedermined fate that bound the Nine Realms, a 2-C feat.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

The worlds aren't just simply connected by Yggdrasil. THey're part of it. As it's said in the first link I gave. And when thor destroyed the loom, it caused yggdrasil to be destroyed as well as we wsee it shrivel it up with an image of the worlds inisde of it's trunk.

 

[Antvasima]

This seems too speculative/not concrete enough for me. I maintain my earlier stance.

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

What Ant and Matt said. Containing several universes doesn't make you literally infinitely stronger than said universes

 

[Antvasima]

So should we close this thread?

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I'm confused. I thought you told me that a structure that contains 4-d universes is considered a 5-D structure?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yggdrasil is a nexus, it links the nine worlds directly. It is not a 5h-Dimensional bulkspace with universes attached to its 4D-branes.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

This page from the comics says the worlds are a part of Yggdrasil. NOt that yggdrasil just connects them.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11119/111196008/4646354-lt4ez.jpg

 

[Antvasima]

Nevertheless, we cannot consider something that contains a 2-C structure as infinitely above it.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Then I suppose what said in this thread would need to be ammended:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1578726

So that other users may not be confused as what constitudes as a 5-D object as I am now.

 

[Antvasima]

The only thing that I said in that thread was:

"The reason why we count 5-D beings as High 2-A is that even a countably infinite number of 4-D universes would have zero 5-D volume if stacked on top of each other."

 

[Antvasima]

If Yggdrasil is simply the 9 worlds stacked on top of each other along a 5-D axis, it is 2-C.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I was referring to the other statements.

 

[AKM sama]

Agree with others. It is simply a 2-C feat at best.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I did not make those statements, regular members did.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

I know. I'm suggesting that thread have a message added to it to explain that the previous statements were not accurate before it leads to more confusion. Or perhaps deleted all together.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yggdrasil is a nexus, it links the nine worlds directly. It is not a 5h-Dimensional bulkspace with universes attached to its 4D-branes.

Again.

 

[Antvasima]

I made a clarifying statement at the end, and I think that the tiering system page already explains this.

 

[Intruvious]

The "Likely" before 2-C bothers me. Thor seems like a solid 2-C to me.

 

[Antvasima]

You are probably correct.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Why is Thor likely 2-C instead of 2-C?

 

[Antvasima]

We should probably change the rating. You should ask Matthew if he is okay with it.

 

[EcchiOtakuTM]

Why is rkt 2C in the first place? He should be around 2B considering dormammu has to be at full power to even match odin who thor surpassed as old. Rune king surpassed even that.

 

[Dark649]

Dormammu is just 2-C, and surpassing him does not grant a 2-B tier, only a higher value of the mentioned 2-C tier.

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody inform Matthew and Sandman31 about this thread?