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It's another Storm upgrade
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The thing about Storm making that tempest around Yggradil it not only had enough power to spread to numerous universes but it also had the power to quench the thirst of that tree. Yggdrasil spreads to all dimensions in existence all the way up to the house of ideas.
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IIRC Yggdrasil right now "only" scales in High 1-A on the level of Omniversal Eternity.
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It's stated please refrain from scaling Storm to Adversary because he was not written at his classic level. I can't here to say that is not true.
1. Adversary made an appearance in Cable and the X-Force where a piece of himself survived in Forge's mind when he was banished. Keep in mind this wasn't the complete Adversary. Yet he was still strong enough to destroy the universe if he was not stopped in time in this issue. The only reason they were able to stop this piece of Adversary was his weakness to metal. The X-force base was a metal casing nullifying his magic. Even though it is cross-scaling it is still impressive that piece of Adversary is stated to be as powerful as Q from Star Trek from the writer's perspective and pan-dimensional. Meaning Modern Adversary > Classic
2. Adversary has always needed some mortal vessel to use to get back into the physical plane to escape from the prison dimension. Well in Black Panther, Adversary manipulated a woman into gaining followers for him. They praised this god not knowing it was Adversary. It got to the point he was able to free himself from the prison dimension with his power alone. Meaning the Full Adversary came out to play and was amped by magic due to his followers he obtained
3. Below are scans from Phoenix Song Echo
A. Adversary stated once he returned to 616 plane of existence he was not whole but only a shadow of himself... And needed raw power to bring him back to full power. That power being the Phoenix Force
B. He was going to absorb the phoenix energy to empower himself. Meaning he could easily withstand her attack which are passed just being physical
C. His threat level is played back on Uncanny X-men #227 when Adversary overpowered the multiversal Guardian Roma, took control over the nexus, tainted her realm of order which is a multiverse with Chaos, and was going to destroy existence.
D. Echo finally faced the Adversary. She could not overpower him so desperate she took the battle into White Room which is the Nexus of Phoenix power. He easily defeated her and started siphoning off her power to return to his normal power level. Without getting to his standard power level he could warp the white room and take control over it. Just by stealing a little of the phoenix's power to replenish himself. Tell you how powerful Adversary really is
E. At his weakest he was damaging a timeline and 616 universe is multiple times the size of our universe along with different dimensions and layers. It is also not to mention that Phoenix reduced him to essence at his actual weakest when he was just born... And that still did not put him down permanently as she stated. He was later shown in Sins of Sinister and Resurrection of Magneto.
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So the note that current Adversary < Classic Adversary is wrong. When his character was reintroduced this century as a piece of himself could easily do what his classic version could.
1. Adversary made an appearance in Cable and the X-Force where a piece of himself survived in Forge's mind when he was banished. Keep in mind this wasn't the complete Adversary. Yet he was still strong enough to destroy the universe if he was not stopped in time in this issue. The only reason they were able to stop this piece of Adversary was his weakness to metal. The X-force base was a metal casing nullifying his magic. Even though it is cross-scaling it is still impressive that piece of Adversary is stated to be as powerful as Q from Star Trek from the writer's perspective and pan-dimensional. Meaning Modern Adversary > Classic
2. Adversary has always needed some mortal vessel to use to get back into the physical plane to escape from the prison dimension. Well in Black Panther, Adversary manipulated a woman into gaining followers for him. They praised this god not knowing it was Adversary. It got to the point he was able to free himself from the prison dimension with his power alone. Meaning the Full Adversary came out to play and was amped by magic due to his followers he obtained
3. Below are scans from Phoenix Song Echo
A. Adversary stated once he returned to 616 plane of existence he was not whole but only a shadow of himself... And needed raw power to bring him back to full power. That power being the Phoenix Force
B. He was going to absorb the phoenix energy to empower himself. Meaning he could easily withstand her attack which are passed just being physical
C. His threat level is played back on Uncanny X-men #227 when Adversary overpowered the multiversal Guardian Roma, took control over the nexus, tainted her realm of order which is a multiverse with Chaos, and was going to destroy existence.
D. Echo finally faced the Adversary. She could not overpower him so desperate she took the battle into White Room which is the Nexus of Phoenix power. He easily defeated her and started siphoning off her power to return to his normal power level. Without getting to his standard power level he could warp the white room and take control over it. Just by stealing a little of the phoenix's power to replenish himself. Tell you how powerful Adversary really is
E. At his weakest he was damaging a timeline and 616 universe is multiple times the size of our universe along with different dimensions and layers. It is also not to mention that Phoenix reduced him to essence at his actual weakest when he was just born... And that still did not put him down permanently as she stated. He was later shown in Sins of Sinister and Resurrection of Magneto.
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So the note that current Adversary < Classic Adversary is wrong. When his character was reintroduced this century as a piece of himself could easily do what his classic version could.
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The Elder Gods are High 1-A and this is more cunning trickery than a direct fight, so I don’t think it should be used as justification plus the way you worded it makes it seem like storm>toranos when this isn’t the case.
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So does the OP look good to you?
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Review what’s been accepted, and feel free to apply that. You have enough staff support.
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Thanks Catzla.
Remember , soulus, that Storm is a high tier sorceress largely for your own reasoning.
But in general, great job with these revisions.
P.s. Since Storm at her peak also took a blast from a High 1-A Dominion, would her peak durability also be high 1-A?
Remember , soulus, that Storm is a high tier sorceress largely for your own reasoning.
But in general, great job with these revisions.
P.s. Since Storm at her peak also took a blast from a High 1-A Dominion, would her peak durability also be high 1-A?
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Thanks for the support. Yes i'd change the current wording on her page for her peak dura to match her ap.
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Also, the Adversary note needs to be removed
According to the writer of her new series, Storm will be facing omnipotent threats. The page might need to be updated later this year or early next year.
According to the writer of her new series, Storm will be facing omnipotent threats. The page might need to be updated later this year or early next year.
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Btw if you link to the marvel magic page you can remove that long description for NPI since that's already covered in the magic page. Same with resisting soul hax since you can say she resists magic which by nature is soul hax
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I'm finished applying the revisions to the page. It should be ready for you to add the magic stuff to Storm's page.
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I don't have access to my laptop yet for another 2 weeks, but once I get access to it then I'll add it for sure.
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Is this your wiki account?
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If so, I will need to rename your forum account accordingly.
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Yes that’s my account
