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Helpless haxless survivors (TFC Civilian vs Undertale Monster kid)

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Both have NOTHING aside from decent AP

Monster kid scales to 0.0016 tons of TNT

Civilian Scales to 0.0016512881 tons of TNT

Battle takes place in Snowden

Both have access to their standard arsenal

Speed Equalized

Civilian:1 (MinecraftHater2011)

Monster Kid:

Incon: 1 (AThe1412)
 
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Monster Kid doesn't attack even when forced into a fight with a murderous sociopath that is the genocide route Frisk
 
ExSENNA said:
Monster Kid doesn't attack even when forced into a fight with a murderous sociopath that is the genocide route Frisk
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yeah. but is seemingly willing to fight given their action of just blocking their path

oh yeah also something to note is the civilian only barely has an edge over monster kid 1.03 times
 
CuteAnimeNekoGirl99 said:
yeah. but is seemingly willing to fight given their action of just blocking their path

oh yeah also something to note is the civilian only barely has an edge over monster kid 1.03 times
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I guess so, granted I know nothing about Civilian, but Monster Kid is just a kid I doubf they would attack, especially not first one to attack
 
Voting Civilian. Monster Kid stats should make him slightly superior to Sans and LV1 Minimal Determination Frisk but it's his unwillingness to fight (which decreases his defense) and clumsiness (constantly falls face first onto the ground) that gives the Umbrella Dude the win.
 
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Civilian FRA. It should also be noted that the Civilian likely has a stamina advantage (via still being able to fight even after tanking multiple bullets) and a reaction speed advantage due to shoddy speed equalization rules.
 
ok so the previous votes for civilian shouldn't be counted. they voted him under the assumption Monster kid wouldn't be willing to fight.
 
Comiphorous said:
ok so the previous votes for civilian shouldn't be counted. they voted him under the assumption Monster kid wouldn't be willing to fight.
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My vote still stands. Monster Kid is clumsy, has no combat feats, and he has no arms so he even gets outranged by Umbrella Dude.
 
Comiphorous said:
technically both are equal in range. look at the pages. they're both standard melee range.
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Yes, but Monster Kid has no arms while the Civilian has a weapon. For all we know, he has to headbutt the guy to do damage which is a bad idea considering how clumsy he is + he'll be charging head first into the Civilian's attacks.
 
AThe1412 said:
Yes, but Monster Kid has no arms while the Civilian has a weapon. For all we know, he has to headbutt the guy to do damage which is a bad idea considering how clumsy he is + he'll be charging head first into the Civilian's attacks.
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a weapon he uses as blunt force... plus, if he did headbutt the civilian and fell on him, he's pinned the civilian down. The civilian doesn't have the LS to fight monster kid off him. monster kid could step down on him and he couldn't do anything about it.
 
Comiphorous said:
a weapon he uses as blunt force... plus, if he did headbutt the civilian and fell on him, he's pinned the civilian down. The civilian doesn't have the LS to fight monster kid off him. monster could step down on him and he couldn't do anything about it.
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Alright, fair enough. This sounds like an inconclusive to me.
 
AThe1412 said:
Alright, fair enough. This sounds like an inconclusive to me.
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it doesn't help that they definitely aren't equal in strength. Civilian downscales heavily from mercenaries who downscale from more mercenaries. Monster kid technically actually upscales from his rating, as his rating comes from sans, who he's superior to.
 
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Comiphorous said:
a weapon he uses as blunt force... plus, if he did headbutt the civilian and fell on him, he's pinned the civilian down. The civilian doesn't have the LS to fight monster kid off him. monster kid could step down on him and he couldn't do anything about it.
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I think it's pretty safe to assume the Civilian has more than Below Average Human LS (Monster Kid prob shouldn't even be Average Human in LS, as I doubt the average kid's over 50 kilos), lol. Even if the Civilian had the LS disadvantage, the huge reaction speed advantage should be more than enough to avoid such a situation, especially with how MK can only really try to headbutt the former.
 
Bump! could The current voters remind tell me their current positions on the fight? It seems like comiphorus is on Monster Kid’s side Minecraft for the Civilian. And A is Incon
 
Bump? I'm changing my vote to Inconclusive after some consideration. MK does have a Nice Cream which heals you in-game so it should keep him in the fight longer.
 
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