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Frankly, no clue why it was accepted for Imps to just not have it. Considering same thing there.
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Hazbin Hotel - Immortality + Hax + Cosmic Feats + Adam Addition
- Thread starter ShionAH
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Eden_Warlock99
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I'm like 99% sure the regen immortality is said to be a Sinner exclusive thing.
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(Waiting for classic “he is totally unharmed bruh” ahhh response)
Do you want to selectively apply the statement about the Angels as a whole? Really? That’s… just dumb.
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He very much clearly isn't harmed lmao Alastor doesn't even leave a mark on him, whether that be the stat difference or the invulnerability. him reacting to the impact of it doesn't mean he isn't invulnerable. invulnerability makes you immune to traditional attacks, it doesn't magically remove the impact of what's hitting you. it only removes the actual damage that impact would give you.
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If I punch you into the face, I won’t leave a scratch either, but you will pretty much feel pain, growl loudly, go a couple of steps back and stroke the part where I hit you. And guess what? That’s exactly what happens here!
“Unharmed” would be just making no sound or reaction at all. Knowing Adam, he would just laugh it off standing in one place instead of doing what he did in the scene. But he didn’t.
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No, punching someone in the face will leave a mark. that's the point of punching someone in the face. Adam was unharmed by every hit alastor threw out, even if he reacted to it.
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It does not? You will have zero marks, you will just get hurt and that’s it. Do it with someone or watch any punching in face video lmfao.
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Adam wears a mask and all we see are white particle effects then Adam taking a step back, we know from Lute that those masks can hide injuries. Also what Orange said.
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Im lik 99% sure once Adam's mask is broken in half you can't see a mark on his chin where he's hit.
Edit; even after the ass whooping he takes from Lucifer, he still has no damage to his chin. Alastor did **** with either hit.
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He is not surprised, he is just shouting outloud that it hurts and that’s it. He doesn’t say “for the first time in my life, I have been harmed by a mere peasant” or smth like that how you view it.
Ignoring me huh?
So you want to say that Lucifer made no harm to him as well? LITERALLY?
Also, is this guy also perfectly unharmed since he has no marks on his face?
I can also give you a ton of VSBW profiles that get ratings by harming someone without leaving scars. Y’all either do not understand how harming works or just want to wank Adam/shit on Alastor.
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Obviously, I was just using a hyperbole.
Not "??", but "!!". He does not question it - he just cries it out loud. And this does not imply this being the first time at all.
Also, why would he even be surprised, bro saw his own exorcists getting slaughtered by Angelic Weapons.
His tone is the average mad Adam voice, bruh.
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We should forget that Stolas moved out of the range of the explosion and opened a portal...o wait we didn't
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cherubs are not the exterminator angels, they are the heaven version of hellborn...no immortality
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mostly sinners to upranks have that
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She could have opened a portal without making any speed feat.
Also, again, reasoning for it scaling to reaction/combat speed is not legit at all.
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she?man you are confusing people, also again, he only opens the portal after leaving the exploding star and for that, he would have to fly.
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Wanted to write Stolas and wrote she. Stuff happens.
We never see Stolas actually flying, it’s really an assumption, hence why it is iffy, especially since he does have abilities to cut the distance.
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he flies at the portal at the start of the song, also any other goetia uses a specific object to fly or move in the air.
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That’s not a speed feat in question iirc. Speed feat is him supposedly flying back.
Cool.
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yes but that is just a respond to "he does not fly actually"and yes, he can fly, he flies to escape from the star explosion and opens a portal
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I was saying that we were not shown that he flies in the speed feat, not that he cannot fly lmao.
This part is an assumption.
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Ok, let's think for a moment, Stolas was on a moon, then the moon was destroyed, he floated away with his daughter, we moved away, the star exploded and the portal closed right after and somehow none of this is a speed feat?
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He could have opened a portal mid-way seeing that he is not that fast, etc.
Also, timeframe used in the calc is very iffy since it's not actually a timeframe of Stolas flying (since we don't see it happening on the screen), but more of a time it takes for him to "reappear", and the two are not exactly the same thing.
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counterargument:
Stolas in another chapter left his mansion and went to where the IMP office was after Blitz called him and told him that his daughter took the grimoire (that lasted about 4 seconds) and he did it clearly without portals because he broke even the door (also only uses portals to travel between realms)also he is singing the song, like, when the characters are singing they are singing in reality in real time.
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This... does not address my concerns at all.
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i can't explain the scene part by part
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- Immortality (Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 8 [Soul])
- Scans, statements, anything?
- Regeneration (Low-Godly - Sinners are implied to be capable of surviving being eaten by cannibals, more than once. Erasing their soul is the only way to kill them)
- Is something missing? There's no mention of soul here.
- Invulnerability (Angels are stated to be invincible and indestructible, and that there was no actual way to harm them without the use of Angelic Weapons or Holy Magic)
- Didn't Vaggie get her head bashed in on a table? It sounded like it hurt, and I think there was blood. Considering that, this shouldn't be applied to anyone. Just take it as a way of them being impossible to kill without weapons.
- 5-B with Size Manipulation, 4-A likely higher with Creation (Seraphims are capable of growing the size of planets, creating entire moons and solar systems and expanding the entire universe)
- Too vague.
ShionAH
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Tbh that was done by Lute, an angel and Vaggie is a fallen angel which could mean she lost that privilage. Anyways like I previously said only the exorcist angels have antifeats, while others like Adam just have supporting feats such as him implying that he was unfamiliar with pain
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For the one thousandth time:
- He did not imply that at all.
- He has a direct contradiction against Alastor.
- Statements are generalized anyways, so they either apply to everybody or apply to no-one. There is no “compromise” here. (Also do note that all statements are referring to Angels overall when talking about Exorcists’ threat)
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There's no evidence of that, though. Also, Lucifer is still said to have his angelic power despite having fallen.
That's not solid enough to overturn the anti-feats. I would just stick with their invulnerability and invincibility as a reference to them being impossible to kill without their own weapons.
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The problem with that is that Sinners can still be hurt without ángelic weapons, and if they say they are invencible even with the weapons they use, then that means that either, they are invulnerable or all sinners are stupid for not trying to fight back
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I'm not talking about sinners.
ShionAH
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You are saying Angels are immortal, just like sinners. But unlike Sinners who are stated to be "unkillable" Angels are specifically stated to be "unharmable". Plus Sinners straight up act like they are completely unstoppable even though by your and oranges logic they would have the same unstoppability of sinners
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I’m pretty sure we concluded in Reaper’s thread that they act as unstoppable due to superior durability compared to regular Sinners.
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The fact that very large number of Sinners is actually a thread to all of Heaven is possible only in superior durability scenario, not invulnerability.
ShionAH
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That isnt evidence, thats speculation since we have no idea why they are a threat (entirely possible Lilith activates this and the rest of Heaven doesnt know she is under Adams control). I wont take that claim serious without any actual evidence towards it.
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How about like 95% of the cast being at least on the level of weak power Overlords?(Hi Husk)
You gotta remember the only guy dragging the rest down in scaling is Pentious who IS an average sinner and generally he only does minor damage to the rest of the cast from what we saw. He is an anti-feat generator, yes, but his power level is kind of what you'd expect from the average sinner walking around.
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