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Hax Resistance Scaling Issues; X's Superior to Y & Gets Z Hax Resistance
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Should we notify why this is wrong on the resistance page? A lot of people hold this belief
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is there any pages on the wiki that has the resistance scaled because of being stronger?
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Anyone?
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"Scaling resistances to abilities between different characters should be avoided when based on assumptions of how strong the characters are in relation to each other and how their level of strength or power or other statistics is related to the resistance. The reason behind how a character is able to resist an ability is important for proving whether other characters possess that same resistance.
Ideally supporting evidence should be used to prove that a resistance feat demonstrated by one character can be reasonably applied to other characters, instead of assuming that the resistance or the same level of resistance should be applied automatically.
For example, Monkey D. Luffy has a Resistance to Blunt Force Trauma only because of his Devil Fruit ability as it is an inherent property of the Gum-Gum fruit's ability. If another character uses the Gum-Gum fruit then they will also possess a Resistance to Blunt Force Trauma."
Something like this? Maybe a different example could be used, or more examples such as invalid example.
Ideally supporting evidence should be used to prove that a resistance feat demonstrated by one character can be reasonably applied to other characters, instead of assuming that the resistance or the same level of resistance should be applied automatically.
For example, Monkey D. Luffy has a Resistance to Blunt Force Trauma only because of his Devil Fruit ability as it is an inherent property of the Gum-Gum fruit's ability. If another character uses the Gum-Gum fruit then they will also possess a Resistance to Blunt Force Trauma."
Something like this? Maybe a different example could be used, or more examples such as invalid example.
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I'm sorry if this is already addressed but maybe we can also take to account how frequent these hax resistances occurred to determine if it future characters should have it by default due to scaling? Such as any Haki user having resistance to whatever ability Conqueror's Haki falls under considering even the ones with out this type of Haki don't seem affected by it or at least from what I remembered....
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Armament Haki* and every haki user with even a basic level of Armament Haki fall under it.
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Looks good to me
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Done.
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If needed, I could make a continuation thread in the staff forum to do this if it’s needed.
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I am not a staff but i want to say something about this, i understand and agree that a 6D who is seen as the omnipotent god in a verse everyone else is 5D shouldn't get any resistance, but if there are other 6Ds and they are unable to kill each others OR a single one of the many 6Ds is seen as unkillable shouldn't they get the resistances to all the hax? Or at least a "possibly resistance"?
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No. Being undefeatable isn't enough, unless we know why they are undefeatable.
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Does having any statements about none of the characters abilities are able to work on the target count?
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There could also be stuff like regeneration, immortality and powernull involved instead. If not for that, it does sound plausible, in my opinion.
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Also one other question, what about video games characters who have flat out in game resistances to specific status effects, shouldn’t that count for the characters?
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In general, in rpg games have characteristics, so scaling its easier since the "resistance level" has a numerical value.
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What about cases where we know it's not because any of these 3 and even then the 6D(s) are said to be unkillable by other 6Ds? I used "kill" before, but i think "defeat" is an even more extreme case, i think we all know defeating someone can be done by at least 2 other methods (incap and BFR) so if a 6D with a lot of hax says nothing they do can kill or at least defeat another 6D (and we know it's not because of immortality, regen, NEP, etc) then it shouldn't be wrong to say they resist each others powers.
Also, any opinions about Yung's post about giving resistances to characters able to fight characters with passives (passive death hax in his example)?
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Why do I get the feeling that this is an ultra-specific case that already exists on the wiki?
Also, it is possible to give "Possible/Likely" abilities, meaning that in such a case as this it may be possible for them to be resistant to these unnamed hax abilities. But such a thing would need good foundation for it.
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Well, it may be, but i genuinely think we shouldn't stop adding resistances to higher D beings just because normally there is more to them than what hax is normally able to kill (acausality, NEP, regen, etc), at least in cases where they don't have any of that obviously.
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So about this...
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Because I'm pretty sure that is just stealthily bringing up the revision of magic gods resisting all of their own abilities, which was already rejected.
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It's also related to Aleister and others (in and out of toaru), but hey, Damage said he thinks a "possible resistance" would be fine, idk why we shouldn't do it now that it seems the rules allow it.
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I'm more in agreement with DontTalkDT in this than I am in allowing a "possibly resistance" here.
Don't try and twist my words into making an agreement for upgrading some characters.
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Is it really necessary though? This thread could solve the problem.
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What about creatures who can naturally take in certain substances without succumbing to the effects of said substance, like someone being able to absorb radiation without being affected by the side effects of radiation. That allows for resistance right?
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