gwenpool vs kiyotaka (0-0-9) grace

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Ngl After reading some stuff on Gwen. She's literally cracked.
The girl can jump through different stories back and forth basically time traveling without consequences at will. Immersion even

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

This luck is crazy

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Ngl there's arguments for Gwen to be 9-B physically and hypersonic in reaction, hm. If I cared enough, I could make a crt.

I'll probably revamp her profile ngl. Pretty interesting stuff

 

[Tomfer]

I'll probably revamp her profile ngl. Pretty interesting stuff

If you're going to do that, here's a list of every appearance she has in chronological order.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

If you're going to do that, here's a list of every appearance she has in chronological order.

Holy...

 

[Tomfer]

Holy...

That's pretty tame actually, there's far worse. Like literally every single other comic character.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

That's pretty tame actually, there's far worse. Like literally every single other comic character.

Seems so. This is Marvel we're talking about after all.

 

[RoggerReggor]

No one wins then . Kiyo runs the whole match & can't hit her while Gwen unloads the whole match. W incon

Stamina battle.

I think an inconclusive matchup is very well justified FRA as well.

The thing is that while Kiyotaka has all the knowledge on Gwen, he possibly cannot attack her physically. He will have to convince her from behind the shadows, which mentioned before, isn't a very hard thing.

Also,

Yeah but he needs good enough Social Influencing to actually do it. Simply having the ability doesn't automatically mean he can talk people into litteraly anything. You need actual decent proof that he would be able to convince someone who knows that they are the main character of a comic book series that they aren't the main character, you can't just say "he has Social Influencing so he can automatically do it"

There are real life people with Social Influencing abilities, but that doesn't mean they can talk litteraly anyone out of a fight instantly

He has a much better Social Influencing now. The recent revisions have given him enough Social Influencing to just convince people via fear and by just a glare. Also, along with that, he has GOOD ENOUGH social influencing. So, I would be betting on that.

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So, at last, I would vote for inconclusive, this is the fairest set for both the characters.

• You don't give Kiyotaka prior knowledge, and Gwen would win.
• You give Kiyotaka preparation time for everything, and he would win, he would basically plan the entire fight from the start like he did in Y2V4 and even think about everything he can do to socially influence Gwen.

As mentioned earlier, Gwen doesn't really know that she will win without any kind of difficulty if she thinks she's the MC. So, it is very possible to have her get misguided/manipulated.

With that, the inconclusive matchup will be due to:

• Kiyotaka can manipulate Gwen to have her think that she's not the MC and then use his moves to the better extent.
• Kiyotaka never gets successful in manipulating Gwen to have her misguided.

Both outcomes are fairly possible and gives a 50-50 chance to both.

So, for that and FRA, I am going with an inconclusive matchup outcome.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

She's just drinking viruses and living.....

 

[Fezzih_007]

• Gwenpool blast ayanokoji with her weapons, due to Ayanokoji lack of experience dealing with heavy weaponry
• Kiyotaka can manipulate Gwen to have her think that she's not the MC and then use his moves to the better extent.
• Kiyotaka never gets successful in manipulating Gwen to have her misguided.

ALL of outcomes are fairly possible and gives a 50-50 chance to all of them

So, for that and FRA, I am going with an inconclusive matchup outcome.

Counted

 

[RoggerReggor]

Counted

Ah, again, about Kiyotaka's "experience" with heavy weaponry, I wouldn't be too bad with reasoning it, but he already would have knowledge on them, even if he wasn't given prior knowledge, he would still have a good amount of knowledge of weapons due to the White Room knowledge.

He isn't the kind of guy who would panic that much when he realizes that his opponent has weapons. It's been talked about before that he can dodge weaponry by connecting feats in his AnPr. So yeah, inconclusive is fairly justified for me.

Thanks for adding that point though.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

If you're going to do that, here's a list of every appearance she has in chronological order.

I'll make a page for her Unbelievable variant first. Just as how most marvel pages are split into different series

 

[RoggerReggor]

If you're going to do that, here's a list of every appearance she has in chronological order.

For a second, I had an intrusive thought of reading the entire lore just to have a good judgment on this debate. I thought it would be 10-20 chapters but yeah... holyyy...

 

[Tomfer]

I'll make a page for her Unbelievable variant first. Just as how most marvel pages are split into different series

You talking about what? We don't split via different series.

For a second, I had an intrusive thought of reading the entire lore just to have a good judgment on this debate. I thought it would be 10-20 chapters but yeah... holyyy...

It's only 80ish issues, it's not really that bad for a comic character.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Incon fra...I guess?

 

[RoggerReggor]

It's only 80ish issues, it's not really that bad for a comic character.

That's true and I agree very much, but the thing is that it's very scattered. If it was in collective and consecutive issues, then it probably wouldn't be much of a problem. But considering this, it would require me to have good context of the stories, but as it stands, my knowledge on the character is just as same as how much an average 6-year-old would have on AP calculus, i.e., zero.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Reading the Gwenpools comic so far and I find a 9-A feat worth calculating. The page is really outdated lol

 

[RoggerReggor]

Reading the Gwenpools comic so far and I find a 9-A feat worth calculating. The page is really outdated lol

Do it and we ignore this matchup.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Do it and we ignore this matchup.

I haven't unlocked the skill "Create Calculation" yet

 

[Tomfer]

Reading the Gwenpools comic so far and I find a 9-A feat worth calculating. The page is really outdated lol

If you're saying is true, it might help the verse upgrade their 9-Bs back to 9-A since we already got two 9-A calcs made by 9-Bs.

 

[RoggerReggor]

I haven't unlocked the skill "Create Calculation" yet

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

If you're saying is true, it might help the verse upgrade their 9-Bs back to 9-A since we already got two 9-A calcs made by 9-Bs.

It might ngl. Gwen could harm this guy who blasted himself through a ceiling creating a massive hole in the roof and survived.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Looks pretty 9-B+ - 9-A to me since this isn't your average wall crack.

 

[Tomfer]

It might ngl. Gwen could harm this guy who blasted himself through a ceiling creating a massive hole in the roof and survived.

Modok is currently set on unknown, so it might be worth something at least. Request that to someone on the request thread and pray.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

And btw her shield is outright 9-A. It blocked a laser that turned someone to a char which would be around this level

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Modok is currently set on unknown, so it might be worth something at least. Request that to someone on the request thread and pray.

Will do that rn

 

[RoggerReggor]

It might ngl. Gwen could harm this guy who blasted himself through a ceiling creating a massive hole in the roof and survived.

Tbh for me, the more impressive feat is that the guy flew to space (which will have a much greater value than the ceiling bursting) instead of the ceiling bursting.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Tbh for me, the more impressive feat is that the guy flew to space (which will have a much greater value than the ceiling bursting) instead of the ceiling bursting.

7-B Marvel Street levels incoming

 

[Tomfer]

Tbh for me, the more impressive feat is that the guy flew to space (which will have a much greater value than the ceiling bursting) instead of the ceiling bursting.

It's most likely going to be an outlier, better stick with the more believable first.

7-B Marvel Street levels incoming

They were before, a long time ago.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Pre 4 page skill argument. Following

Bro predicted the future

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Bro predicted the future

All according to plan.