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GT Goku vs Chou Goku
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Syn is at best 10x baseline.
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Wouldn't Omega be 10x baseline? Do Syn's feat have a rating, or is it guesstimating?
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...gon_Ball_GT:_Elaborating_on_the_God-Tiers'_AP
This is the basis of Syn's AP. He's baseline, or 10x at most
This is the basis of Syn's AP. He's baseline, or 10x at most
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What I get from that blog is that Omega is 3-B and 3-A with his Minus Energy Ball, but the profiles say otherwise.
Now I'm more confused.
Now I'm more confused.
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They pretty much decided to scale him to the ball for some reason. So he should be baseline at best if I'm being honest. So Goku would be 10x that with the Dragon Fist.The Calaca said:
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If Omega is baseline, Dragon Fist is just unquantifiably above baseline.
Where does Jiren 20x baseline come from? Because if it is as you mention, this is a clear stomp in Chouku's favor.
Where does Jiren 20x baseline come from? Because if it is as you mention, this is a clear stomp in Chouku's favor.
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If the 40x comes from universe's size, that thing was revised and it's now rejected unless the author confirms either a bigger or smaller size.
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I suppose if Beerus and Champa are baseline, both would scale above them by an unknown amount just like how GTku scales above Omega with Dragon Fist.
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After Image is a speed based technique that makes you faster than your opponent by an exponential amount to the point they see after images. Of course if you are just completely in another speed tier then yeah you'd see their slow ass lmao.UchihaSlayer96 said:
Yes he can. Ultra Full Power 4 Saiyan has the energy to with stand it. Not only can 4 be held when knocked out, the tail helps stamina greatly & with him having full stamina & Gohan, Trunks, & Goten's energy would skyrocket the stamina in his body since it's adding his full stamina & more to him. All he has to do is take a hit, use after image, or use Instantaneous Movement to grab the other Goku then use final atonement & beyond to kill.
Power ain't everything fam. With the right abilities used Goku can win.
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If GToku will be allowed to use Kaioken, then Chouku should be allowed to use Hakai lol.
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@AKM Some months ago. Planet and universe size revisions. I don't have the links at hand.
@SSJ
Afterimages are just an after effect of moving too fast. Not a boost technique at all.
None of GTku's techniques are helping here.
Not to mention Chouku is aware that the tail is a weakspot and would aim for it.
@SSJ
Afterimages are just an after effect of moving too fast. Not a boost technique at all.
None of GTku's techniques are helping here.
Not to mention Chouku is aware that the tail is a weakspot and would aim for it.
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Noted. Good idea.DTG499 said:
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But I just want to point out that Hakai GG is more likely than GToku using Kaioken lol
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Yea, DB Universe is clearly bigger than ours because just the mortal realm is stated to be infinite and expansive like ours, while we have the kaioshin realm, other world, and demon realm...AKM sama said:
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If UI is a technique that gets to raise speed then accessing After Image raises speed as well.The Calaca said:
I do not recall Instantaneous Movement surpassed for reachion time for Chou Goku on this site so please refrain from using that.
The massive stamina in his body will allow Kaioken.
Lol a Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan 4 will have the energy of 3 Saiyans thus he can exponentially extent his abilities. He too could attack with greater than ×20. He doesn't even have to attack like that. Just surround him with omnidirectional energy then enclose it on him. UI Goku is forced to try to guard. Doing this continuously will help wear him down.
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Hakai only works if you can completely land it & only with Perfect Ki Control i.e., God Ki.UchihaSlayer96 said:
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Hakai only works if you can completely land it & only with Perfect Ki Control i.e., God Ki.
Which he can because he's faster and has instantaneous movement+UI
Oh and btw... Goku's predictive powers even in base are so good he can literally counter time skip lol... so his skill is on another level
Which he can because he's faster and has instantaneous movement+UI
Oh and btw... Goku's predictive powers even in base are so good he can literally counter time skip lol... so his skill is on another level
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Never used because he wasn't forced to as he had many other options & regardless it's still in his arsenal.DTG499 said:
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Wrong. He was able to with Vegeta move exponentially faster than ÔÖÄYi Xing Long to the point he was seeing after images & could not be fast enough to land a hit. So yes AI is amping speed to use this technique thus UI Goku ain't getting through that After Image 2 piece combo. BOOM BOOM MOTHA *****!The Calaca said:
Don't take offense to that last part. I'm just gloating on this W!
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Hakai only works if you can completely land it & only with Perfect Ki Control i.e., God Ki.
Which he can because he's faster and has instantaneous movement+UI
Oh and btw... Goku's predictive powers even in base are so good he can literally counter time skip lol... so his skill is on another level
Potentially. That seems like a legit method tho but that technique isn't fully perfected iirc & my Goku can just After Image his ass so he can't actually pinpoint where he is.
iirc Goku was stronger therefor he would beat timeskip. Timeskip hasn't been shown effective on foes that are greater than you.
Which he can because he's faster and has instantaneous movement+UI
Oh and btw... Goku's predictive powers even in base are so good he can literally counter time skip lol... so his skill is on another level
Potentially. That seems like a legit method tho but that technique isn't fully perfected iirc & my Goku can just After Image his ass so he can't actually pinpoint where he is.
iirc Goku was stronger therefor he would beat timeskip. Timeskip hasn't been shown effective on foes that are greater than you.
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TBH guys I'm really enjoying this discussion. It's really fun trying to come up with creative ways to win against each other. Especially when both sides are limited.
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@AKM the point of that revision was to debunk the use of maps.
@SSJ No, that's not how it works.
UI boosts speed.
Afterimage doesn't.
And Chouku can do that as well. I don't know what are you trying to argue by quoting events and feats both Goku have because it have been used before their versions even existed lmao.
Lmao no. GTku would explode for using KK in a SSJ form. SSJ4 is no difference just because it doesn't have a stamina drain. So does average SSJ and he can't use it.
3 SSJ giving him energy is BS. They shouldn't make a difference at all to begin with. But I digress.
Asspull non existent multiplier is asspull.
@SSJ No, that's not how it works.
UI boosts speed.
Afterimage doesn't.
And Chouku can do that as well. I don't know what are you trying to argue by quoting events and feats both Goku have because it have been used before their versions even existed lmao.
Lmao no. GTku would explode for using KK in a SSJ form. SSJ4 is no difference just because it doesn't have a stamina drain. So does average SSJ and he can't use it.
3 SSJ giving him energy is BS. They shouldn't make a difference at all to begin with. But I digress.
Asspull non existent multiplier is asspull.
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And No he learned how to predict the Time Skip before transforming into a super saiyan God. So he wasn't stronger yet.
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DB wasn't revised because no one paid attention to it >_>.
FT got because it was one of the main cases, but the similarities are very big.
>FT's planet got amped to be 5x Earth from a distance in a continent and from the continent to the planet.
>DB's universe gets its rating from a size given to one of the elements in it and scaled from it via "map".
The use of maps and similar stuff is what was debunked.
FT got because it was one of the main cases, but the similarities are very big.
>FT's planet got amped to be 5x Earth from a distance in a continent and from the continent to the planet.
>DB's universe gets its rating from a size given to one of the elements in it and scaled from it via "map".
The use of maps and similar stuff is what was debunked.
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But these dimensions do exist in a separate space for sure, and can only be accessed via teleportation or being Whis lol. As for their size, I guess it would be hard to guess without the map but the otherworld needs to be massive because it houses the souls of the entire universe lolThe Calaca said:
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I hate to admit it but it's kind of fun lolDTG499 said:
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