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GT Goku vs Chou Goku

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Yeah you're showing me the scans that show no noticeable difference. Goku was stomping baby before he "absorbed" it and nothing changed afterwards. There are no instances were he was being stomped by someone else then after he absorbed a Ki blast he began stomping them. No point in arguing because GT goku already lost.
 
Hit calls it Time Skip while it's actually Time Stop. In both media, manga and anime, we see him interacting with enemies in frozen time where he has complete control of them.

There's a reason why Goku has resistance to timestop...

What headcanon I'm using to wank Chouku?

GT DOES follow Z.
 
DTG499 said:
Yeah you're showing me the scans that show no noticeable difference. Goku was stomping baby before he "absorbed" it and nothing changed afterwards. There are no instances were he was being stomped by someone else then after he absorbed a Ki blast he began stomping them. No point in arguing because GT goku already lost.
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Again irrelevent but also headcanon. Baby was still slightly on par with him. He proceeds to 1 shot him. That's a noticable increase.
 
SSJ100000000000 said:
DTG499 said:
Yeah you're showing me the scans that show no noticeable difference. Goku was stomping baby before he "absorbed" it and nothing changed afterwards. There are no instances were he was being stomped by someone else then after he absorbed a Ki blast he began stomping them. No point in arguing because GT goku already lost.
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Again irrelevent but also headcanon. Baby was still slightly on par with him. He proceeds to 1 shot him. That's a noticable increase.
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on par, no after Goku got energy from 4 saiyan(3 of them is super saiyan) he clearly toying with Great Ape Bady from that point onward and after he cancel out Revenge Death Ball, he process to stomp Baby, nothing indicated he got moew power from Bady, Baby statement is one-sided and invalid, even Goku himself don't claim he got more power from that Energy Ball
 
The Calaca said:
Hit calls it Time Skip while it's actually Time Stop. In both media, manga and anime, we see him interacting with enemies in frozen time where he has complete control of them.

There's a reason why Goku has resistance to timestop...

What headcanon I'm using to wank Chouku?

GT DOES follow Z.
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Yes time stopped but he's skipping ahead in the future to land hits hence Goku actually waiting for the hits to land. Not sure how you missed this.

We never see him in the manga move while time is stopped. We literally see him waiting. That is your wank.

If it did follow Z then his Base should start out as Multi Galaxy at the beginnings of GT.
 
Dude, Hit pummeled Goku while he was frozen in time as soon as he improved his Toki Tobashi. This in the anime. In the manga Hit saw Goku frozen in time when the latter went from SSG to SSB.

It's timestop. End of the story. Timeskip is a bad name since Hit isn't truly jumping in time.

I think he does. GTku follows Son Goku (Toei)'s statistics.
 
Technicaly, Hit's technique is named after it's effect on the universe since he take the time that should have passed for his dimension so the universe 'skip' a bit of time, resulting in a time stop for everyone else.
 
Exactly.

Anyway, this needs to be redone as GTku is now 3-A with Dragon Fist only while Chouku has access to 3-A UI.
 
Soooo, the result is the same.

UI Goku is about as strong as Omega Shenron if not somewhat more and SSJ4 Goku could severely damage him with Dragon Fist or outlast him but I don't see that happening.
 
Dragon Fist is useless. Not only it won't land on Chouku but even if by some miracle it manages to ignore UI, it won't defeat him.

UI stomps GTku. Better restrict the next thread to 3-B forms. This one is too long.
 
The Calaca said:
Dude, Hit pummeled Goku while he was frozen in time as soon as he improved his Toki Tobashi. This in the anime. In the manga Hit saw Goku frozen in time when the latter went from SSG to SSB.

It's timestop. End of the story. Timeskip is a bad name since Hit isn't truly jumping in time.

I think he does. GTku follows Son Goku (Toei)'s statistics.
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Show me some scans of him stopping time. Quite frankly if he's time traveling then time would appear to be stopped to him tbh.

Anime is irrelevant. This is the manga.

Why is he not Multi Galaxy than Galaxy+?
 
Chapter 13 and 14.

The anime is consistent with the manga depiction. Both medias show the same Effect meaning the correct interpretation is timestop and Timeskip is only a Fancy name.

Because he scales to SSJ3, not Dragon Fist.
 
Vietthai96 said:
SSJ100000000000 said:
DTG499 said:
Yeah you're showing me the scans that show no noticeable difference. Goku was stomping baby before he "absorbed" it and nothing changed afterwards. There are no instances were he was being stomped by someone else then after he absorbed a Ki blast he began stomping them. No point in arguing because GT goku already lost.
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Again irrelevent but also headcanon. Baby was still slightly on par with him. He proceeds to 1 shot him. That's a noticable increase.
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on par, no after Goku got energy from 4 saiyan(3 of them is super saiyan) he clearly toying with Great Ape Bady from that point onward and after he cancel out Revenge Death Ball, he process to stomp Baby, nothing indicated he got moew power from Bady, Baby statement is one-sided and invalid, even Goku himself don't claim he got more power from that Energy Ball
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Headcanon but since you persist I'll do what I do best & breakdown the entire battle.

1. Goku & Baby are shown to be even here.

2. Goku is shown pushed back.

3. Goten, Trunks, & Gohan tells us from what they see in canon is they equal thus no sign of Goku having a big power advantage.

4. From the same trio of humans image if you look to your right you will see collisions of blast. The bottom right shows a flurry Ki blast & to the left you'll see the 1st collision of episode Baby Put To Rest & of course even again. Goku comes out of that taking hits & knocked back like Baby in this flurry of blast.

5. Goku seemingly to avoided the Super Galic Gun

6. Baby uses the Renzoku Galick Gun to fire around Goku to create a dust storm to hide & give him time to use his most powerfullest Revenge Death Ball. Goku absorbs it then with the power of 1 shot he wins.

So far you've taken a skeptic approach to the whole thing by believing because YOU didn't see a power increase Baby's statement is dismissed along with the showing of withdrawal of the Ki from the attack into his body. You even argue very fallaciously by saying Goku's lack of indication verbally that he got stronger tells us he didn't get stronger. Also wtf is a one sided statement? We have feats & statements of absorption of Ki. Just like against 13, just like against Jiren. Ki absorption.
 
I did not spam the thread with things that should be in Character Revision Thread

Just organize your points and make a CRT. You won't change anything otherwise, and you'd just be wasting your time and derailing threads. It's the best way to get anything done.
 
I did not spam the thread with things that should be in Character Revision Thread

Just organize your points and make a CRT. You won't change anything otherwise, and you'd just be wasting your time and derailing threads. It's the best way to get anything done.

Those are for Character Revisions. Again i did not make a character revision here. We are arguing over Goku absorbing UI Goku's attack. So far I've broken down the context of the fight & it seems once again people coming at me for doing so.
 
He didn't get any stronger when he absorbed baby's death ball , absorption doesn't always lead to a power increase. He was stomping baby before he absorbed the ball and he was stomping baby after. Everyone else here saw what happened they all know it was a stomp before and after. I'm not talking about before goku got serious either, before he started using the full power of ss4 he was getting slapped around a bit but after that it was a stomp.
 
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