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Granblue Fantasy Discussion thread 3

I hope we'll get more base characters after this and not ended with Rein, only 5 characters is a bit low lel

That said, Rein looks promising
 
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
I hope we'll get more base characters after this and not ended with Rein, only 5 characters is a bit low lel

That said, Rein looks promising
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They will likely release more. Iirc there should be 4 and only 2 was shown (grimnir and nier)

On otherhand relink is adding more characters and will showcase one new again at november.

Ghandagoza yeeting those goblins into space
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Sky realm - 3D+Time (4D) our regular universe. Also has countless branching timelines so its 2-B at best
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Possibily 2-A maybe?

ルリアノート​

仮初の自由を求めて罪を重ねた少女は、悩み、苦しんだ末に自らの罪を雪ぎ、真の自由を得た。かつて重くのしかかっていた蒼穹は、無限の可能性を示すかの如く彼女を迎える。気高き白銀の獣の背に乗り、彼女はどんな空を翔けていくのか。
(Pholia Note
A young woman who achieved a false sense of freedom by committing transgressions in the past. After much soul-searching and atonement, she has finally won true freedom for herself. Once burdened by the weight of the azure sky, it now welcomes her as if to show infinite possibilities. Riding on the back of a noble silver beast, where will she soar in the sky?)

碧空の門
数少ない外界との接点。 雲海の先には無限の世界が広がる。
(Gate of the azure
One of the few points of contact with the outside worlds. Infinite worlds are spreading out beyond the sea of clouds)
 
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Omazio2019 said:
Possibily 2-A maybe?

ルリアノート​

仮初の自由を求めて罪を重ねた少女は、悩み、苦しんだ末に自らの罪を雪ぎ、真の自由を得た。かつて重くのしかかっていた蒼穹は、無限の可能性を示すかの如く彼女を迎える。気高き白銀の獣の背に乗り、彼女はどんな空を翔けていくのか。
(Pholia Note
A young woman who achieved a false sense of freedom by committing transgressions in the past. After much soul-searching and atonement, she has finally won true freedom for herself. Once burdened by the weight of the azure sky, it now welcomes her as if to show infinite possibilities. Riding on the back of a noble silver beast, where will she soar in the sky?)

碧空の門
数少ない外界との接点。 雲海の先には無限の世界が広がる。
(Gate of the azure
One of the few points of contact with the outside worlds. Infinite worlds are spreading out beyond the sea of clouds)
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I've checked both but these descriptions came earlier than the latest one
where they specifically said and implied multiple times to be only Near-infinite/countless
I believe they want to avoid infinite stuff possibilities as it could mean a lot of things for collab events making them possibly another branch despite being completely different verse especially inhouse collaborations like Shadowverse, Pricon, etc.

The Gate of Azure iirc in English translation supports High 3-A for Sky-realm as it is stated multiple times that the Sky realm is infinite in terms of space rather than possibilities as pointed out.

there is also the problem of Pholia being hyperbolic but we'll see as they became more direct with how they want to build the cosmology.
Eitherway I can see it being 2-A with other scans supporting it (True King saying that all events big or small can branch etc.) but we encounter contradiction with countless and near-infinite statement (although I checked that in the JP text that it did not mention anything about near-infinite possibility and it is unique to EN translation) idk if this is enough for Possibly 2-A tho

先の王いわく、
「王は臣民と見る物を異にする」。

“王の目” とでも呼ぶべき慧眼で
わたくしには見えぬほど、多くの物事を
見通しておいででした。
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The king said,
A king sees things differently from his subjects.

"The eye of the king," as I like to call it.
He saw more things than I could ever see.
I could not see.
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TheGreatJedi13 said:
The Gate of Azure iirc in English translation supports High 3-A for Sky-realm as it is stated multiple times that the Sky realm is infinite in terms of space rather than possibilities as pointed out.
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Actually 無限の世界 = "infinite worlds" rather than "infinite world" like 無数の世界 = countless worlds, I once asked Magisinbad that
 
Omazio2019 said:
Actually 無限の世界 = "infinite worlds" rather than "infinite world" like 無数の世界 = countless worlds, I once asked Magisinbad that
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if that's the case then the Azure Gate actually leads outside Sky-realm (Since it also implies that the next area is basically God's Sanctum which is where God descends where it talks about the corridor, The end of the Sky, and where the Star Lies (Astral Realm))

I'll check it up to see if we can chalk it up for possibly or full 2-A rating. there's currently an ongoing Cosmology CRT anyway

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Granblue Fantasy small Cosmology tweak (new story)

As concluded in this thread. This explanation page will be relevant as it will be updated Currently, The full assumption and accepted hierarchy are as follows Sky-realm Regular branching multiverse universe (3D+Time). [4D] Astral Realm - Higher dimension with 4 spatial axes + time(5D) [To...
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Zeyen (Granblue Fantasy)

The current holder of the name of Zeyen and the elder of Kluger Island. He's also known as the Omniscient Sage by the inhabitants of other islands. As the keeper of Kluger Island's many teachings, he can use the power of the resident primal beast Antikythera to calculate the nature of countless...
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Kenny Mccormick 0v0 said:
How is he 6D?
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Otherworlders are 6D collectively
and as he is what brought Chaos itself to the Crimson Horizon in their entirety he scales to Legion Void after all he is like a Primordial Concept of the Laws of Physics
and now we treat Crimson Horizon as 6D and he being a concept that governs that reality would scale
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Otherworlders are 6D collectively
and as he is what brought Chaos itself to the Crimson Horizon in their entirety he scales to Legion Void after all he is like a Primordial Concept of the Laws of Physics
and now we treat Crimson Horizon as 6D and he being a concept that governs that reality would scale
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So that mean his immortality is also 6D?
 
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Immeasurable speed and perception Boundary (Granblue Time Dragon)

I'll make this quick and simple. Boundary and Simulation as defined As we know Boundary treats all time concurrently (existing all at once) https://imgur.com/a/KImZaEI As shown in these scans even someone who exists across time is but just a part of the Boundary. Normally this can be treated...
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Crt for Eternals and Captain for immeasurable speed
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
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Immeasurable speed and perception Boundary (Granblue Time Dragon)

I'll make this quick and simple. Boundary and Simulation as defined As we know Boundary treats all time concurrently (existing all at once) https://imgur.com/a/KImZaEI As shown in these scans even someone who exists across time is but just a part of the Boundary. Normally this can be treated...
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Crt for Eternals and Captain for immeasurable speed
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Very noice

But I saw something yike in the comments of that thread lol
 
We're making a CRT

God-Slayer Fenrir alongside Loki will gain 1-C key.
Seven Luminary Knights will downscale from 1-C for Scarlet knight blocking and deflecting Bahamut beam from latest main story
Otherworld has been confirmed to have gained the Omnipotent's Omnipotence and Omniscience so they also will be 1-C

Lastly

The True Omnipotent is unknown where he is as the one in the Boundary/Throne is a Clone of itself yet retaining its Omnipotent's Power
 
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Ok so after revisiting the story and watching more intently
and checking archives.
The Archive for the Clone and Omnipotent Clone
tells a much bigger story about how the Boundary and Estalucia used the Clone's Physical Body to power it up
The Metaphysical True Body that can make duplicate bodies up to an infinite amount exist
It was said that the Clone hold just enough power to sustain it
And Captain as an Axis connected to the Boundary and across all infinite worlds to find the Sky-map and complete it by borrow Other timeline's Sky-map piece


That means a new Realm exists

Sky-realm 4D
Astral Realm 5D
Otherworld 6D
Boundary/Estalucia 7D
Divine Realm 7D or 8D

That kinda means a lot cause that means it is truly impossible for Primal Beast to die but they can simply lose their sense of self
meaning their concept exist on a high plane than even the Otherworld and Boundary
 
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Granblue Fantasy Mission 177: Kill God and Slowly Update Captain

The last CRT has concluded but it just needs to apply changes on 2 locked profiles so I think I'm allowed to post this now? Main Story Chapters 172 to 177 dropped this December 11 and some big things happen We'll go one by one Otherworld Cocoon/Otherworld Dragon It corrupted the Clone of...
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He was a clone but we was still the Omnipotent
 
So.

Are the omnipotent is actually omnipotent in every sense of word or that is just a fancy word for the top hierarchy in Granblue?

Cause rn omnipotence are tier 0 lol.
 
Rakih_Elyan said:
So.

Are the omnipotent is actually omnipotent in every sense of word or that is just a fancy word for the top hierarchy in Granblue?

Cause rn omnipotence are tier 0 lol.
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I'd have to consult Ultima on that after his revision of course

The Game is trying to put Omnipotent as an Omnipotent being. most statements that put limitations on Omnipotence have been subverted with the recent revelation of how the power that they gain from the Omnipotent is all just from a Clone planted before creation and all physical manifestations or individuality are not the true self as they don't have the concept of physical individuality.

there are still some limitations on how it is defined but the otherworld who are superior to dimension as a whole as long as the concept of death exists so much so that it reaches the clone (Which is supposed to be an impossibility even if it is a clone) indicates a clear limitation
at the very least we know dimensional barrier, dimensional power, concept of dimensional boundary, and concept of dimension do exist and all these are ignored as long as Death exists even reaching a place that not even Death can reach. clearly shows superiority to dimension at the very least
 
Kenny Mccormick 0v0 said:
Didn't versus exist in the same cosmology as the main game?
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It is parallel canon afaik
so it could be a separate branch and since it diverts far from the main game
it might need to establish what transpire and what not
though from the looks of it 1-C is still possible since Lucilius and Etemenanki was shown
but we don't know if Beelzebub defeated Avatar here or is equated to it since Avatar in Versus is far smaller
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
It is parallel canon afaik
so it could be a separate branch and since it diverts far from the main game
it might need to establish what transpire and what not
though from the looks of it 1-C is still possible since Lucilius and Etemenanki was shown
but we don't know if Beelzebub defeated Avatar here or is equated to it since Avatar in Versus is far smaller
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How big is Avatar from the main game?
 
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