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Granblue Fantasy Discussion thread 3

Kisaragi_Megumi said:
So Rein has an another name based from the leaks, it's Versusia
Dunno if it has been revealed in the story as i'm not following it yet
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That's the name of the weapon since Rein's soul was put into that vessel by Bahamut as intervention. The Real body of Rein is long gone and she's been long dead
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
That's the name of the weapon since Rein's soul was put into that vessel by Bahamut as intervention. The Real body of Rein is long gone and she's been long dead
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I see, i also just saw the information about her in Reddit which is really cool
She's also reminded me with Durga and Kali as a divine destructor and her whole extra arms
 
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
So what did we get from the GFVSR story? Anything news in terms of feats and haxes?
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Lucilius confirming etemenanki exist in versus rising. 1 shorting captain j. Chapter 1

Also him seeing Versusia as a big threat in zero dimension. Versusia purgation can reset the entire timeline regardless of who and what they are just to correct the course of the time that should follow what story to happen transpire

Nier Collab like the 2B nier Collab

Lucilius can negate plot in the zero dimension making anything predetermined by the world null.


Also uh we got Dan Heng's mom I mean Dragon Divine General
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TheGreatJedi13 said:
Lucilius confirming etemenanki exist in versus rising. 1 shorting captain j. Chapter 1

Also him seeing Versusia as a big threat in zero dimension. Versusia purgation can reset the entire timeline regardless of who and what they are just to correct the course of the time that should follow what story to happen transpire
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So more proof and information for the higher dimensional scaling
And yeah Versusia will straight up God tier
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Nier Collab like the 2B nier Collab
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Lame, should be Akuma instead so we can remake "casually messatsu a child" meme with Charlotta
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Lucilius can negate plot in the zero dimension making anything predetermined by the world null.
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A very stupid bs power null!?
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Also uh we got Dan Heng's mom I mean Dragon Divine General
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It's say Arknights so why posted it here 🗿
 
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
A very stupid bs power null!?
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something like that.
Basically, the gist of it is that no matter how powerful you are or how many acausal shenanigans you have
The World itself will produce and tilt to make predetermined outcomes happen no matter what. (Beelzebub losing to Lucilius, Lucilius Losing to MC).
So even Captain who is already a singularity and unbound by any predetermined fate is still under some weird higher level of causality almost teetering to plot
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
It's say Arknights so why posted it here 🗿
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This is a meme. She's the Divine Dragon General for yearly zodiac
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
something like that.
Basically, the gist of it is that no matter how powerful you are or how many acausal shenanigans you have
The World itself will produce and tilt to make predetermined outcomes happen no matter what. (Beelzebub losing to Lucilius, Lucilius Losing to MC).
So even Captain who is already a singularity and unbound by any predetermined fate is still under some weird higher level of causality almost teetering to plot
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Bro is literally just pull out an no u card against plot armor lmao
TheGreatJedi13 said:
This is a meme. She's the Divine Dragon General for yearly zodiac
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It mean that the meme you posted is shit when i didn't get the joke 😂🗿
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
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Never change Genshin **** lmao, always tainted MHY reputation
TheGreatJedi13 said:

From here Lucilius explains it

TLDR : Although some can change causality as they see fit or fate

There is still a final stopper that decides for things
so layered Acausality Type 4 and such etc
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Very bonkers to say, moreso we'll get even further with the new addition of the story of Rising later on so we'll see
 
10th Anniv trailer has listed all the events that has happened in the game so far. And since they posted all event names in the trailer.
It basically revealed the title of the event for january

10th anniv event marks it as the 141st event

This could be it bois

They are entering the gate and it might be Granblueover

 
This is it boys, it's been a journey to us fellow Captains

Now the whole "expanding their series other than the mobile game" are hit different with so much love to GVSR right now and ReLink looks so promising
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
10th Anniv trailer has listed all the events that has happened in the game so far. And since they posted all event names in the trailer.
It basically revealed the title of the event for january

10th anniv event marks it as the 141st event

This could be it bois

They are entering the gate and it might be Granblueover

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This will be the last update of Granblue Fantasy story?
 
Kenny Mccormick 0v0 said:
This will be the last update of Granblue Fantasy story?
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Not really. But the game was intended to last for 10 years so this is likely the last event that they have preplanned from the conception of the game.

Afterwards it's up to them on how they can keep the game fresh and story going.

But from the looks of it they probably gonna be fine
 
Just finished reading Ultima's reply and uh.

Dang Divine realm or the Omnipotent may then become low 1-A or 1-A.

As the way things are created as explained by the Six Dragons.
If we assume the sky realm as water. It is the six dragon that gives pressure eto give it form and make it a bubble etc etc.
All physical entity can be subject to these pressure to give them form in different ways. Thus the fire being fire is because of this pressure. These are the wedges that defines it. And as shown it also gives pressure in a way that time flows and causality exist which are then defined by the wedges as well. Orologia defining how time flows and how it works.

Now going back to the Divine realm. We got confirmation that Divine beings do not possess an individual body as they do not possess physical individuality.

Otherworlders on the other hand also takes the form of being nothing and capable of being something dependent on the concept of death. Thus death existing means they can reach this place transcending even dimensional barriers or no dimensional barriers can stop them. This is what granted them such state of being beyond space and time as they are not limited to it or so to say beyond it in a way that even if they no longer exist they will still exist. (But they don't want this cause they want to exist in a physical world yet their existence alone cannot sustain a world to stop it from collapsing)

Now another meaty thing to know is that concept myths and abstraction varies and if someone exist there is a concept that gives pressure to it to make it exist and take the form of such. We've got mentions of the concept of dimension in an impossible Diagram gacha weapon and transcending the bounds of dimension with Orologia. Orologia gains simulations from the Boundary which is what is said to be that is beyond the bounds of dimension.

Now the otherworld can ignore dimensional barriers
But since the boundary is beyond it's bounds already they cannot reach it as well. In a way one can say the Otherworld can reach any number of dimensional plane they want but not beyond it. They are only beyond it in a way they can ignore the barriers which makes them can go up higher to high 1-B
And the next realm. The boundary is beyond it as we know. By orologia's item defining it
And the fact that even otherworld that can ignore dimensional barriers cannot reach it.
And lastly the place treats everything as happening all at once making it also beyond time plus someone like Orologia who can resist Otherworld and can even store informations of what happened in time and in each simulation as merely part of his personality can only connect through the boundary as an Axis and even he is subject to it as the Boundary can also make him undergo rebirth and destruction and even replace him and outright erase him to be replaced by printing another one just like him.

Now the Divine realm is something that is above even the boundary in a way that The Concept of the Omnipotent or the nature of what makes omnipotent omnipotent is what exist in the Divine realm. Thus even if Omnipotence is given form physically it will retain it's Omnipotence with that Individual copy or Avatar which is still Omnipotent just with a form and can duplicate itself or even split itself at will as the latest story goes.

We might get low 1-A probably even higher into 1-A if we include ontological superiority of the concepts who encompasses everything they define as is (in layman's terms and Xness of something as dictated by the concept)
Which has been confirmed by Repti and Loki when they explained ambiguous beings such as Gods and Myths (Divine being).

No one still can scale to the concept of that is the Omnipotent as it is defined

But the one given form as said by Repti still possess omnipotence in itself so it was weird he was overtaken as he said himself.(hinted that something happened before the creation of Sky-realm which caused it to be overtaken)

Boundary as a whole might become low 1-A and if so we'll need to be more strict with the ratings.
Aka those who draw power from the Boundary has the potential to draw from it's level but will remained limited to what they can draw. (Example Orologia can basically draw power from it but not control the entirety of it only the Omnipotent clone has the power to and even sustains it)
So Scalings might differ and drawing power from it might not always mean low 1-A. It could be High 1-B as shown that it is capable of harming Otherworldly Legion and the Legion being unable to negate it completely due to it's nature of being beyond even their powers.

This also means that the Avatar of concepts will no longer scale to their concept self unless shown to do so.
Their hax may as well be at those level but the potency they can draw out varies for AP and durability.
 
Bad news

I'm making a downgrade for some 2-B characters to low 2-C.

This has been a long time thinking whether these characters truly qualify for 2-B/2-A rating or not.

The key of the problem is that one of the key characters Akasha is 2-B for being assumed to be the entirety of timeline in granblue

Problem is that we've got confirmation that although their concept separate from their physical embodiments may qualify for an overall rating.
What the Avatar or physical manifestations created by astrals is limited to it.

We can't assume Akasha to embody the entirety of the branching timeline as a whole. Because
1.) It was stated to be only on the history of sky-realm. Other times it is hinted of being capable of bringing or writing characters into that specific branch history but not outside. Gachapin and Mukku scenario are one example.
Eugen explained how Akasha also tried to fix the timeline by going outside it and in the process accidentally bringing gachapin and Mukku.

2.) The idol djeeta timeline hinted of djeeta gaining powers from Akasha but as shown she is capable of travelling between timelines (which is something Akasha had done as well) but it could not rewrite the timeline of other branch freely and as also explained that although the copies of primal beast across times exist as a singular metaphysical concept and draws power from it. The history Akasha can rewrite is likely what's within in their branch and only those will full access to the entirety of the concept of history can affect other branches (which is unproven to be possible)

3.) Seeing how Orologia seems unbothered by other branches going into extinction mode (main story) and him appearing to Captain as memories from another branch and how in Orologia's simulation the six dragons are as well differs from branches to branches.
It is very likely that Orologia as well has different versions across other branches.

What this means?

Destroying Sky-realm should only be assumed as singular timeline meaning

Eternals 2-B will become low 2-C

Akasha will get a 4-A to low 2-C
And another key which is 2-A as the true concept embodiment of the entirety separate from individual versions (although this is teetering the area of platonic concept but tbh I've gotten a lot of suspicion that primal beast are all type 1 concepts specially how in Captain's case. If he truly ascended to being one of those God's who are metaphysical self without physical individuality all Captain would be erased for being affected by the concept which is singularity that they all embody. This ascension was avoided by not making Captain a true primal beast but only become a fake one for a while to have the same power of primal beast to use their concept to do wacky stuff)

Evokers also will get downgraded to low 2-C on their last key
But I have plans on properly correcting Inchoate world tier to match his supposedly ascension as he is suppose to be on a level akin to Speakers and such for creating a new world on the same foundation as sky realm which is built upon the power of boundary.

Proto-bahamut will also be affected by this for being a copy of a copy. Let me explain

In main story when Repti explained how Sky god came to existence.
Vyrn interjected and said
If Omnipotent became Sky-God
And Sky-God became Sky-realm
Then why is Omnipotent still in boundary.

Which is then answered by copies/clones.

As we know the concept they embody is separate from whatever physicality they manifest. So aside from the Omnipotent's clone which is confirmed to be singular for not participating in the whole branching timeline shennanigans because he is meant to be above even those concepts despite being simply an Avatar. The sky god and Astral God who became Sky-realm and Astral Realm would have also been infinite amount as well. And yes they actually became the world they created while also existing separately as it is possible to do so via self cloning as explained by the Sky-map and Omnipotent clone primal beast shennanigans

In summary
Proto-bahamut will be 4-A to low 2-C / Low 2-C as ultibaha / 1-C as Sky God.
Total of 3 keys.
He should have more tbh lmao but we'll do that slowly
Although his tiers will be 2-C etc. he still can draw or use his concept which makes his abilities still smurf but his destructive capacity by sheer potency isn't. (aka 7D EE powernull etc but it's destructive powers are limited to what physical power he can draw)

So who can get 2-A?

Tbh none cause all who qualifies for it are already tier 1 and above. Why? Because each branch has its own astral realm etemenanki etc.
The only thing shared as singular between these branches are the existence of boundary and above such as Divine realm.
Meaning to say. Anyone who is capable of destroying the infinite branches would have also been destroying astral realm etc as the true timeline is Orologia which is already 7D potency.

So tbh only true concept Akasha would fit but even Akasha might be higher due to Divine Realm's nature


Wack I know but this is a more accurate ratings for these characters if we really take into considerations of how the branching timeline works in granblue so far
 
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