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Okay. Thank you for helping out.
 
If you write a list with the usernames of the people who have helped out here previously, I can send a notification to them.
 
the page explanation is still being written (I'm doing it slowly when I have free time but it's definitely being worked on). i have a messy imgur due to recent changes in imgur. so I'm taking my time retracing References and scans that requires descriptions
 
Okay. No problem. Please keep us updated here though.
 
sorry, it took some time was busy helping with our Family business reopening.
I still need to link scans in the blogpost and if it's approved I will post it as an actual explanation page

As for other changes this CRT other than tier changes

Primal Beast Immortality type 9 should be removed except for Zooey because she is reliant on Cosmos and can continue existing as long as she exists except on her new keys that will be added with CRT after this where she became independent from Cosmos before she died

Immortality type 9 negation for people who can permanently kill Primal beast will also be removed

primal beast HDE will be updated from
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sorry, it took some time was busy helping with our Family business reopening.
I still need to link scans in the blogpost and if it's approved I will post it as an actual explanation page

As for other changes this CRT other than tier changes

Primal Beast Immortality type 9 should be removed except for Zooey because she is reliant on Cosmos and can continue existing as long as she exists except on her new keys that will be added with CRT after this where she became independent from Cosmos before she died

Immortality type 9 negation for people who can permanently kill Primal beast will also be removed

primal beast HDE will be updated from
to
@JustSomeWeirdo @Theglassman12 @Crabwhale @DarkGrath @Moritzva @Everything12 @Duedate8898

Would any of you be willing to help evaluate this please?
 
sorry, it took some time was busy helping with our Family business reopening.
I still need to link scans in the blogpost and if it's approved I will post it as an actual explanation page
Blogpost Draft is finished I just need input on whether it's up to standard or more information is needed
As for other changes this CRT other than tier changes

Primal Beast Immortality type 9 should be removed except for Zooey because she is reliant on Cosmos and can continue existing as long as she exists except on her new keys that will be added with CRT after this where she became independent from Cosmos before she died

Immortality type 9 negation for people who can permanently kill Primal beast will also be removed

primal beast HDE will be updated from
to
also need more input for this


Lastly, tier changes for profiles getting low 1-C

Bahamut
Tier: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C when Unchained | Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Superior to all Primal Beasts, including Akasha at base and fought Astral Armies during the invasion), likely Universe level+ (A weapon created from his unchained power can obliterate the universe, capable of sealing even Akasha's History/Timeline Rewrite and reversing its effect) | Universe level+ (Comparable to Captain and should be superior to Shalem and Lucilius.)
Tier: At least 4-A, likely 2-B, possibly Low 1-C when Unchained | Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Superior to all Primal Beasts, including Akasha while sealed), likely Multiverse level, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (With his power as Sky-God unleashed he is able to destroy and regenerate the entire Sky-realm along with its countless timelines and should be on equal import as Astral God who created The Astral Realm) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Comparable to Astral God in terms of his power of Destruction who Created the Astral Realm that exists on a higher position than the Sky-realm's Plane of existence. As they are God they are reality and the World themselves and at the same time not for each respective realm and to them Creations are just paintings while Crimson Horizon is their Canvass)
Additionally, he would gain Higher-dimensional Manipulation


Beelzebub
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Multi-Solar System level
(Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarch after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being that is above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Universe level+ (caused Pandemonium to Cease to function and Fought Captain, Cagliostro and Sandalphon who has already defeated Lucilius) | Universe level+ (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved)
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Multi-Solar System level
(Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarchs and Lucifer after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being. above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Low Complex Multiverse level (killed and caused Pandemonium to crash towards the dimensional boundary. fought Sandalphon and Captain and possessed Avatar's power of void that is intended to destroy Etemenanki from within) | Low Complex Multiverse level (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved and easily brushed off the Entire crew's full assault while using only 50% chaos power within him)
He would also get higher-dimensional manipulation because As astral he has the power to reborn Sky-realm denizens into a higher-dimensional existence primal beast.


Lucilius
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
Multi-Solar System level (Shouldn't be weaker than Primal beast and Archangel who he can control and create as astral) | Universe level+ (Able to fend off Supreme Primarch Sandalphon and Captain's attack) | Universe level+ (With 12 wings he should possess the Power and Authority of Speaker Sahar over Sky-realm and Astral Realm and capable of destroying Etemenanki which is a structure far superior than Pandemonium who can break the dimensional boundary that holds down chaos that will erode Providence and everything it encompasses) | Universe level+ (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets invoking 12 labors that shifts the laws to his favor)
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with Seven Trumpets
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Shouldn't be weaker than Primal beast and Archangel who he can control and create as astral) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Possessed Avatar's power and void and caused Etemenanki to fall and cease to function who can resist the encroachment of chaos and can destroy the dimensional boundary which stops Sky-realm and Crimson Horizon from merging) | Low Complex Multiverse level (With 12 wings he has the Power and Authority of Speaker Sahar over Sky-realm and Astral Realm and was destroying Etemenanki with his clash with Sandalphon and Captain), Higher with Seven Trumpets (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets invoking 12 labors that shift the laws to his favor)
Just like Beelzebub he can create a primal beast and should also gain Higher-dimensional manipulation


Captain
Tier: 6-A | 5-A likely 4-C | At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
Continent level+ (Capable of fighting against Tiamat | Large Planet level (Superior to Primal Beasts like Corow and Ifrit) likely Star level (fought and defeated Luminary Knights and defeated Eternals such as Seofon) | At least Multi-Solar System level, (Able to defeat Base Sandalphon and comparable to Archangels, who are far superior to Shiva and Europa, and Acquired all Seraphic Weapons from Primarch without being consumed by it) likely Universe level+ (Fought and defeated Avatar) | Universe level+ (Capable of fighting against Ultimate Bahamut, defeated all 10 Eternals with their Revenant weapon at the same time, defeated Wardant, Beelzeub, Belial and Lucilius)
Tier: 6-A | 5-A likely 4-C | At least 4-A, likely 2-B, possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
Continent level+ (Capable of fighting against Tiamat | Large Planet level (Superior to Primal Beasts like Corow and Ifrit) likely Star level (fought and defeated Luminary Knights and defeated Eternals such as Seofon) | At least Multi-Solar System level, (Able to defeat Base Sandalphon and comparable to Archangels, who are far superior to Shiva and Europa, and Acquired all Seraphic Weapons from Primarch without being consumed by it) likely Multiverse level, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought and defeated Avatar who is built to destroy Etemenanki from within, although during his creation Lucilius himself was unsure of the exact strength needed to destroy it) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of fighting against Ultimate Bahamut, defeated all 10 Eternals with their Revenant weapon at the same time, defeated Wardant, Beelzebub, Belial and Lucilius)


Wardant
Tier: Varies, At least 4-A to Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
Varies (Wardant can manifest his form as strong or stronger than the entity it is trying to counteract), at least Multi-Solar System level (can equally match anything including Arbitrator Zooey in physical strength) to Universe level+ (Upper limit is unknown but posses the power of the Cosmos and Battled Against Ultra Robo Grand God Kaiser who is the ultimate weapon of mankind possessing the power of Zooey and Bahamut's Destruction, and the wishes of everyone who wanted to save the world)
Tier: Varies, At least 4-A to Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
Varies (Wardant can manifest his form as strong or stronger than the entity it is trying to counteract), at least Multi-Solar System level (can equally match anything including Arbitrator Zooey in physical strength) to Low Complex Multiverse level (claimed to be the one that brought chaos in Crimson Horizon and is the underlying principle of cosmos in Crimson Horizon that it took Ultra Robo Grand God Kaiser that possessed all of Zooey's power, Captain's power and Bahamut's Destruction to completely destroy it from existence instead of simply severing his connection to Sky-realm as a Crimson Horizon's underlying Principle or law)


Shalem
Tier: Low 2-C, likely higher when unbound
Attack Potency: Universe level+ (Destroyed Pandemonium together with Helel Ben Sahar even while bound by a mouthpiece and destroying Beelzebub's Body in the process), likely higher when unbound
Tier: Low 1-C, likely higher when unbound
Attack Potency: Low Complex Multiverse level (Destroyed Pandemonium together with Helel Ben Sahar which can destroy the dimensional boundary that separates Sky-realm, Crimson Horizon and Otherworld), likely higher when unbound (Speaker's are Gods that exist beyond Providence of all creation which includes Astral Realm and Crimson Horizon and the mouthpiece placed upon her is meant to hide and contain the Godly powers bestowed by the Omnipotent)
she would also gain Higher Dimensional Manipulation


Sandalphon
Tier: 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | Universe level+ (As Supreme Primarch he can reduce Avatar to ashes with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Universe level+ (Capable of harming Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)
Tier: 4-A | at least 4-A possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | at least Multi-Solar System level, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (As Supreme Primarch he destroyed Avatar with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of defeating Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings can fight Lucilius before he awakened the Speaker's power), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)
Avatar
Tier: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Zechariah a weapon possessing a fraction of his power can swallow the light until it becomes a Starless Void), likely Universe level+ (Was so strong that Lucifer couldn't kill it and was sealed instead and is hinted to be created along with Metatron to Destroy Etemenanki from inside which was also achieved when Lucilius and Sandalphon at their strongest fought inside Etemenanki. Belial was able to keep up with Sandalphon as Supreme Primarch by absorbing a fraction of its power) can ignore durability with special attacks
Tier: At least 4-A, possibly Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Zechariah a weapon possessing a fraction of his power can swallow the light until it becomes a Starless Void), possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (Was so strong that Lucifer couldn't kill it and was sealed instead and is hinted to be created along with Metatron to Destroy Etemenanki from inside which was also achieved when Lucilius and Sandalphon at their strongest fought inside Etemenanki. Belial was able to keep up with Sandalphon as Supreme Primarch by absorbing a fraction of its power) ignore durability with special attacks
tier changes for profiles getting 2-B will be posted later since more profiles will be affected by it
 
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Can you write a single post that explains everything that needs to be evaluated by our staff in easy to understand manners please? I can call for staff members after that.
 
Handful of profiles getting low 1-C rating from the accepted revision. Mostly just proofreading
Bahamut
Tier: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C when Unchained | Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Superior to all Primal Beasts, including Akasha at base and fought Astral Armies during the invasion), likely Universe level+ (A weapon created from his unchained power can obliterate the universe, capable of sealing even Akasha's History/Timeline Rewrite and reversing its effect) | Universe level+ (Comparable to Captain and should be superior to Shalem and Lucilius.)
Tier: At least 4-A, likely 2-B, possibly Low 1-C when Unchained | Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Superior to all Primal Beasts, including Akasha while sealed), likely Multiverse level, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (With his power as Sky-God unleashed he is able to destroy and regenerate the entire Sky-realm along with its countless timelines and should be on equal import as Astral God who created The Astral Realm) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Comparable to Astral God in terms of his power of Destruction who Created the Astral Realm that exists on a higher position than the Sky-realm's Plane of existence. As they are God they are reality and the World themselves and at the same time not for each respective realm and to them Creations are just paintings while Crimson Horizon is their Canvass)
Additionally, he would gain Higher-dimensional Manipulation


Beelzebub
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Multi-Solar System level
(Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarch after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being that is above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Universe level+ (caused Pandemonium to Cease to function and Fought Captain, Cagliostro and Sandalphon who has already defeated Lucilius) | Universe level+ (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved)
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Multi-Solar System level,
likely Universal level+ (Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarchs and Lucifer after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being. above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Low Complex Multiverse level (killed and caused Pandemonium to crash towards the dimensional boundary. fought Sandalphon and Captain and possessed Avatar's power of void that is intended to destroy Etemenanki from within) | Low Complex Multiverse level (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved and easily brushed off the Entire crew's full assault while using only 50% chaos power within him)
He would also get higher-dimensional manipulation because As astral he has the power to reborn Sky-realm denizens into a higher-dimensional existence primal beast.


Lucilius
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
Multi-Solar System level (Shouldn't be weaker than Primal beast and Archangel who he can control and create as astral) | Universe level+ (Able to fend off Supreme Primarch Sandalphon and Captain's attack) | Universe level+ (With 12 wings he should possess the Power and Authority of Speaker Sahar over Sky-realm and Astral Realm and capable of destroying Etemenanki which is a structure far superior than Pandemonium who can break the dimensional boundary that holds down chaos that will erode Providence and everything it encompasses) | Universe level+ (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets invoking 12 labors that shifts the laws to his favor)
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with Seven Trumpets
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Shouldn't be weaker than Primal beast and Archangel who he can control and create as astral) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Possessed Avatar's power and void and caused Etemenanki to fall and cease to function who can resist the encroachment of chaos and can destroy the dimensional boundary which stops Sky-realm and Crimson Horizon from merging) | Low Complex Multiverse level (With 12 wings he has the Power and Authority of Speaker Sahar over Sky-realm and Astral Realm and was destroying Etemenanki with his clash with Sandalphon and Captain), Higher with Seven Trumpets (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets invoking 12 labors that shift the laws to his favor)
Just like Beelzebub he can create a primal beast and should also gain Higher-dimensional manipulation


Captain
Tier: 6-A | 5-A likely 4-C | At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
Continent level+ (Capable of fighting against Tiamat | Large Planet level (Superior to Primal Beasts like Corow and Ifrit) likely Star level (fought and defeated Luminary Knights and defeated Eternals such as Seofon) | At least Multi-Solar System level, (Able to defeat Base Sandalphon and comparable to Archangels, who are far superior to Shiva and Europa, and Acquired all Seraphic Weapons from Primarch without being consumed by it) likely Universe level+ (Fought and defeated Avatar) | Universe level+ (Capable of fighting against Ultimate Bahamut, defeated all 10 Eternals with their Revenant weapon at the same time, defeated Wardant, Beelzeub, Belial and Lucilius)
Tier: 6-A | 5-A likely 4-C | At least 4-A, likely 2-B, possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
Continent level+ (Capable of fighting against Tiamat | Large Planet level (Superior to Primal Beasts like Corow and Ifrit) likely Star level (fought and defeated Luminary Knights and defeated Eternals such as Seofon) | At least Multi-Solar System level, (Able to defeat Base Sandalphon and comparable to Archangels, who are far superior to Shiva and Europa, and Acquired all Seraphic Weapons from Primarch without being consumed by it) likely Universe level+, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought and defeated Avatar who is built to destroy Etemenanki from within, although during his creation Lucilius himself was unsure of the exact strength needed to destroy it) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of fighting against Ultimate Bahamut, defeated all 10 Eternals with their Revenant weapon at the same time, defeated Wardant, Beelzebub, Belial and Lucilius)


Wardant
Tier: Varies, At least 4-A to Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
Varies (Wardant can manifest his form as strong or stronger than the entity it is trying to counteract), at least Multi-Solar System level (can equally match anything including Arbitrator Zooey in physical strength) to Universe level+ (Upper limit is unknown but posses the power of the Cosmos and Battled Against Ultra Robo Grand God Kaiser who is the ultimate weapon of mankind possessing the power of Zooey and Bahamut's Destruction, and the wishes of everyone who wanted to save the world)
Tier: Varies, At least 4-A to Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
Varies (Wardant can manifest his form as strong or stronger than the entity it is trying to counteract), at least Multi-Solar System level (can equally match anything including Arbitrator Zooey in physical strength) to Low Complex Multiverse level (claimed to be the one that brought chaos in Crimson Horizon and is the underlying principle of cosmos in Crimson Horizon that it took Ultra Robo Grand God Kaiser that possessed all of Zooey's power, Captain's power and Bahamut's Destruction to completely destroy it from existence instead of simply severing his connection to Sky-realm as a Crimson Horizon's underlying Principle or law)


Shalem
Tier: Low 2-C, likely higher when unbound
Attack Potency: Universe level+ (Destroyed Pandemonium together with Helel Ben Sahar even while bound by a mouthpiece and destroying Beelzebub's Body in the process), likely higher when unbound
Tier: Low 1-C, likely higher when unbound
Attack Potency: Low Complex Multiverse level (Destroyed Pandemonium together with Helel Ben Sahar which can destroy the dimensional boundary that separates Sky-realm, Crimson Horizon and Otherworld), likely higher when unbound (Speaker's are Gods that exist beyond Providence of all creation which includes Astral Realm and Crimson Horizon and the mouthpiece placed upon her is meant to hide and contain the Godly powers bestowed by the Omnipotent)
she would also gain Higher Dimensional Manipulation


Sandalphon
Tier: 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | Universe level+ (As Supreme Primarch he can reduce Avatar to ashes with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Universe level+ (Capable of harming Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)
Tier: 4-A | at least 4-A possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | at least Low Complex Multiverse level (As Supreme Primarch he destroyed Avatar with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of defeating Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings can fight Lucilius before he awakened the Speaker's power), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)
Avatar
Tier: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Zechariah a weapon possessing a fraction of his power can swallow the light until it becomes a Starless Void), likely Universe level+ (Was so strong that Lucifer couldn't kill it and was sealed instead and is hinted to be created along with Metatron to Destroy Etemenanki from inside which was also achieved when Lucilius and Sandalphon at their strongest fought inside Etemenanki. Belial was able to keep up with Sandalphon as Supreme Primarch by absorbing a fraction of its power) can ignore durability with special attacks
Tier: At least 4-A, possibly Low 1-C
Attack Potency:
At least Multi-Solar System level (Zechariah a weapon possessing a fraction of his power can swallow the light until it becomes a Starless Void), possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (Was so strong that Lucifer couldn't kill it and was sealed instead and is hinted to be created along with Metatron to Destroy Etemenanki from inside which was also achieved when Lucilius and Sandalphon at their strongest fought inside Etemenanki. Belial was able to keep up with Sandalphon as Supreme Primarch by absorbing a fraction of its power) ignore durability with special attacks
tier changes for profiles getting 2-B will be posted later since more profiles will be affected by it
proposed changes and AP description if Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm are accepted as low 1-C universe
Draft for the explanation page. if it's sufficient enough to explain how Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm is a low 1-C universe and cosmology explanation
Primal Beast Immortality type 9 should be removed except for Zooey because she is reliant on Cosmos and can continue existing as long as she exists except on her new keys that will be added with CRT after this where she became independent from Cosmos before she died

Immortality type 9 negation for people who can permanently kill Primal beast will also be removed
removal of Immortality Type 9 for Primal Beast physiology page.
removal of immortality Type 9 negation for characters that can kill them permanently.
update to Higher-dimensional Existence explanation for Primal Beast on their Physiology page
 
Handful of profiles getting low 1-C rating from the accepted revision. Mostly just proofreading

proposed changes and AP description if Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm are accepted as low 1-C universe

Draft for the explanation page. if it's sufficient enough to explain how Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm is a low 1-C universe and cosmology explanation

removal of Immortality Type 9 for Primal Beast physiology page.
removal of immortality Type 9 negation for characters that can kill them permanently.

update to Higher-dimensional Existence explanation for Primal Beast on their Physiology page
Everything looks fine
 
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Multi-Solar System level,
likely Universal level+ (Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarchs and Lucifer after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being. above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Low Complex Multiverse level (killed and caused Pandemonium to crash towards the dimensional boundary. fought Sandalphon and Captain and possessed Avatar's power of void that is intended to destroy Etemenanki from within) | Low Complex Multiverse level (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved and easily brushed off the Entire crew's full assault while using only 50% chaos power within him)
There’s a mistake here. Universal+ shouldn’t be there under the 4-A key.
 
There’s a mistake here. Universal+ shouldn’t be there under the 4-A key.
I agree.
Tier: 4-A | at least 4-A possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | at least Low Complex Multiverse level (As Supreme Primarch he destroyed Avatar with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of defeating Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings can fight Lucilius before he awakened the Speaker's power), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)
Also, the second key attack potency should also fixed; it is missing the "Multi-Solar System level, possibly"
Besides these cases, I saw no major issues.
 
Thanks ill fix it and apply the changes once i get on my PC later
Then post the explanation page then link it to the profiles

wait I thought higher meant they are higher in that tier but unquantifiable
 
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Thank you for helping out. The suggested error corrections can probably be applied.
 
My boil got worse and im bedridden.
Ive already posted the cosmology explanation page and is protected by Sir_Ovens and made the changes to remove type 9 immortality and update Higher dimensional existence in primal beast physiology page
Will resume applying changes to profiles when i get better.
Sorry and Thanks for being patient
 
finished updating the profiles for Tier low 1-C and did some clean ups and added scans and reference to some description that I have scans prepared

Now for the 2-B. That has unanimously agreed by everyone
I'll list profiles that will gain it

Akasha
  • Embodiment of Sky-realm's History itself
  • Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Inchoate World
  • Created a new realm separate from Sky-realm and Astral Realm and Merged with it. Said he is able to reset Sky-realm and all of Creation but he has never interacted with Astral Realm or any low 1-C structure so no low 1-C rating for him only 2-B
  • Low 2-C keys will be updated to 2-B
Tweyen, Seofon, and Seox
  • When Revenant weapons are fully awakened and used by their Chosen wielder. it is said to be able to destroy the Sky-realm Seven times over which grants them 2-B
  • Although they are said to have fought Captain at his strongest. The whole eternal crew was never seen or shown to interact with the strongest enemies Captain Fought except with Six Dragons who are limited in the scope of the entirety of Sky-realm and not Astral Realm or Crimson Horizon
  • They will have the same Tier and outline as Seox because his profile is the most updated one among them 3
  • Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Nier
  • Possessed and gathered the data and information needed to completely destroy and reset Sky-realm and all of creation in her final key
  • Similar to Inchoate World
  • Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Cagliostro
  • low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Other changes than 2-B
Ellis Stamp
Loki
  • Gains higher dimensional manipulation and Existence for being an Astral like Beelzebub and Lucilius and being able to use Origination to create primal beast who are 4dimensional

After this the CRT can be concluded so I can proceed with another CRT for Abilities updates
 
Wait a little please. I think that I noticed that you added infinite stamina to at least one profile page, with very lacking written justifications.
 
Wait a little please. I think that I noticed that you added infinite stamina to at least one profile page, with very lacking written justifications.
i already replied to your message in the fandom.
though I believe it should be written as Extremely High possibly Infinite similarly to Tiamat's possibly limitless and I may have just forgotten to write it as that.
 
I suggested "At least Superhuman, possibly Infinite" on your wiki message wall earlier.
 
Okay. Thank youfor helping out. Did you add the improved justifications as well, and were any other character profile pages also affected?
 
Okay. Thank youfor helping out. Did you add the improved justifications as well, and were any other character profile pages also affected?
i added improved justification on shalem
I did not touch most of it except Shalem, Beelzebub and Lucilius
Beelzebub was due to him having endless chaos that gives him power
Lucilius would be on the same reason as primal beast and primarchs but IIRC you already corrected this one and did some clean up
Wardant has his own justification to be limitless or infinite so I did not change anything in his stamina
 
Okay. What were those justifications, more specifically?
 
finished updating the profiles for Tier low 1-C and did some clean ups and added scans and reference to some description that I have scans prepared

Now for the 2-B. That has unanimously agreed by everyone
I'll list profiles that will gain it

Akasha
  • Embodiment of Sky-realm's History itself
  • Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Inchoate World
  • Created a new realm separate from Sky-realm and Astral Realm and Merged with it. Said he is able to reset Sky-realm and all of Creation but he has never interacted with Astral Realm or any low 1-C structure so no low 1-C rating for him only 2-B
  • Low 2-C keys will be updated to 2-B
Tweyen, Seofon, and Seox
  • When Revenant weapons are fully awakened and used by their Chosen wielder. it is said to be able to destroy the Sky-realm Seven times over which grants them 2-B
  • Although they are said to have fought Captain at his strongest. The whole eternal crew was never seen or shown to interact with the strongest enemies Captain Fought except with Six Dragons who are limited in the scope of the entirety of Sky-realm and not Astral Realm or Crimson Horizon
  • They will have the same Tier and outline as Seox because his profile is the most updated one among them 3
  • Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Nier
  • Possessed and gathered the data and information needed to completely destroy and reset Sky-realm and all of creation in her final key
  • Similar to Inchoate World
  • Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Cagliostro
  • Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Other changes than 2-B
Ellis Stamp
Loki
  • Gains higher dimensional manipulation and Existence for being an Astral like Beelzebub and Lucilius and being able to use Origination to create primal beast who are 4dimensional

After this the CRT can be concluded so I can proceed with another CRT for Abilities updates
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