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Got it. I'll get back once i finished the blog and proposed changesI think so, yes.
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Got it. I'll get back once i finished the blog and proposed changesI think so, yes.
Do the rest of you know the answer to this?Has Bahamut been accepted by L1C?
@JustSomeWeirdo @Theglassman12 @Crabwhale @DarkGrath @Moritzva @Everything12 @Duedate8898sorry, it took some time was busy helping with our Family business reopening.
I still need to link scans in the blogpost and if it's approved I will post it as an actual explanation page
As for other changes this CRT other than tier changes
Primal Beast Immortality type 9 should be removed except for Zooey because she is reliant on Cosmos and can continue existing as long as she exists except on her new keys that will be added with CRT after this where she became independent from Cosmos before she died
Immortality type 9 negation for people who can permanently kill Primal beast will also be removed
primal beast HDE will be updated from
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- Higher-Dimensional Existence: Primal Beast's True form are entities reborn to a higher-dimensional existence by the Astrals[8] and they exist on a higher position than the Sky-realm's plane[2]
- Higher-Dimensional Existence: Primal Beast are entities reborn to a higher-dimensional existence by the Astrals[8] and they exist in a higher position than the Sky-realm's plane[2]. Their Data caused Ellis to have a Data Flow that has a hyperdimensional perception and sees 3-dimensional space as flat and his influence can manifest physically. Primarchs and Astrals who hail from Astral Realm can also plainly see distortion unlike Ordinary Sky-dwellers whom Beelzebub considers Infinitesimal
Blogpost Draft is finished I just need input on whether it's up to standard or more information is neededsorry, it took some time was busy helping with our Family business reopening.
I still need to link scans in the blogpost and if it's approved I will post it as an actual explanation page
also need more input for thisAs for other changes this CRT other than tier changes
Primal Beast Immortality type 9 should be removed except for Zooey because she is reliant on Cosmos and can continue existing as long as she exists except on her new keys that will be added with CRT after this where she became independent from Cosmos before she died
Immortality type 9 negation for people who can permanently kill Primal beast will also be removed
primal beast HDE will be updated from
to
- Higher-Dimensional Existence: Primal Beast's True form are entities reborn to a higher-dimensional existence by the Astrals[8] and they exist on a higher position than the Sky-realm's plane[2]
- Higher-Dimensional Existence: Primal Beast are entities reborn to a higher-dimensional existence by the Astrals[8] and they exist in a higher position than the Sky-realm's plane[2]. Their Data caused Ellis to have a Data Flow that has a hyperdimensional perception and sees 3-dimensional space as flat and his influence can manifest physically. Primarchs and Astrals who hail from Astral Realm can also plainly see distortion unlike Ordinary Sky-dwellers whom Beelzebub considers Infinitesimal
proposed changes and AP description if Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm are accepted as low 1-C universeBahamut
Tier: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C when Unchained | Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Multi-Solar System level (Superior to all Primal Beasts, including Akasha at base and fought Astral Armies during the invasion), likely Universe level+ (A weapon created from his unchained power can obliterate the universe, capable of sealing even Akasha's History/Timeline Rewrite and reversing its effect) | Universe level+ (Comparable to Captain and should be superior to Shalem and Lucilius.)Additionally, he would gain Higher-dimensional ManipulationTier: At least 4-A, likely 2-B, possibly Low 1-C when Unchained | Low 1-C
Attack Potency: At least Multi-Solar System level (Superior to all Primal Beasts, including Akasha while sealed), likely Multiverse level, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (With his power as Sky-God unleashed he is able to destroy and regenerate the entire Sky-realm along with its countless timelines and should be on equal import as Astral God who created The Astral Realm) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Comparable to Astral God in terms of his power of Destruction who Created the Astral Realm that exists on a higher position than the Sky-realm's Plane of existence. As they are God they are reality and the World themselves and at the same time not for each respective realm and to them Creations are just paintings while Crimson Horizon is their Canvass)
Beelzebub
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Multi-Solar System level (Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarch after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being that is above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Universe level+ (caused Pandemonium to Cease to function and Fought Captain, Cagliostro and Sandalphon who has already defeated Lucilius) | Universe level+ (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved)He would also get higher-dimensional manipulation because As astral he has the power to reborn Sky-realm denizens into a higher-dimensional existence primal beast.Tier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Multi-Solar System level, likely Universal level+ (Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarchs and Lucifer after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being. above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Low Complex Multiverse level (killed and caused Pandemonium to crash towards the dimensional boundary. fought Sandalphon and Captain and possessed Avatar's power of void that is intended to destroy Etemenanki from within) | Low Complex Multiverse level (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved and easily brushed off the Entire crew's full assault while using only 50% chaos power within him)
Lucilius
Tier: At least 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Shouldn't be weaker than Primal beast and Archangel who he can control and create as astral) | Universe level+ (Able to fend off Supreme Primarch Sandalphon and Captain's attack) | Universe level+ (With 12 wings he should possess the Power and Authority of Speaker Sahar over Sky-realm and Astral Realm and capable of destroying Etemenanki which is a structure far superior than Pandemonium who can break the dimensional boundary that holds down chaos that will erode Providence and everything it encompasses) | Universe level+ (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets invoking 12 labors that shifts the laws to his favor)Just like Beelzebub he can create a primal beast and should also gain Higher-dimensional manipulationTier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with Seven Trumpets
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Shouldn't be weaker than Primal beast and Archangel who he can control and create as astral) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Possessed Avatar's power and void and caused Etemenanki to fall and cease to function who can resist the encroachment of chaos and can destroy the dimensional boundary which stops Sky-realm and Crimson Horizon from merging) | Low Complex Multiverse level (With 12 wings he has the Power and Authority of Speaker Sahar over Sky-realm and Astral Realm and was destroying Etemenanki with his clash with Sandalphon and Captain), Higher with Seven Trumpets (Stronger than before with Seven Trumpets invoking 12 labors that shift the laws to his favor)
Captain
Tier: 6-A | 5-A likely 4-C | At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C | Low 2-C
Attack Potency: Continent level+ (Capable of fighting against Tiamat | Large Planet level (Superior to Primal Beasts like Corow and Ifrit) likely Star level (fought and defeated Luminary Knights and defeated Eternals such as Seofon) | At least Multi-Solar System level, (Able to defeat Base Sandalphon and comparable to Archangels, who are far superior to Shiva and Europa, and Acquired all Seraphic Weapons from Primarch without being consumed by it) likely Universe level+ (Fought and defeated Avatar) | Universe level+ (Capable of fighting against Ultimate Bahamut, defeated all 10 Eternals with their Revenant weapon at the same time, defeated Wardant, Beelzeub, Belial and Lucilius)Tier: 6-A | 5-A likely 4-C | At least 4-A, likely 2-B, possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Attack Potency: Continent level+ (Capable of fighting against Tiamat | Large Planet level (Superior to Primal Beasts like Corow and Ifrit) likely Star level (fought and defeated Luminary Knights and defeated Eternals such as Seofon) | At least Multi-Solar System level, (Able to defeat Base Sandalphon and comparable to Archangels, who are far superior to Shiva and Europa, and Acquired all Seraphic Weapons from Primarch without being consumed by it) likely Universe level+, possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (Fought and defeated Avatar who is built to destroy Etemenanki from within, although during his creation Lucilius himself was unsure of the exact strength needed to destroy it) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of fighting against Ultimate Bahamut, defeated all 10 Eternals with their Revenant weapon at the same time, defeated Wardant, Beelzebub, Belial and Lucilius)
Wardant
Tier: Varies, At least 4-A to Low 2-C
Attack Potency: Varies (Wardant can manifest his form as strong or stronger than the entity it is trying to counteract), at least Multi-Solar System level (can equally match anything including Arbitrator Zooey in physical strength) to Universe level+ (Upper limit is unknown but posses the power of the Cosmos and Battled Against Ultra Robo Grand God Kaiser who is the ultimate weapon of mankind possessing the power of Zooey and Bahamut's Destruction, and the wishes of everyone who wanted to save the world)Tier: Varies, At least 4-A to Low 1-C
Attack Potency: Varies (Wardant can manifest his form as strong or stronger than the entity it is trying to counteract), at least Multi-Solar System level (can equally match anything including Arbitrator Zooey in physical strength) to Low Complex Multiverse level (claimed to be the one that brought chaos in Crimson Horizon and is the underlying principle of cosmos in Crimson Horizon that it took Ultra Robo Grand God Kaiser that possessed all of Zooey's power, Captain's power and Bahamut's Destruction to completely destroy it from existence instead of simply severing his connection to Sky-realm as a Crimson Horizon's underlying Principle or law)
Shalem
Tier: Low 2-C, likely higher when unbound
Attack Potency: Universe level+ (Destroyed Pandemonium together with Helel Ben Sahar even while bound by a mouthpiece and destroying Beelzebub's Body in the process), likely higher when unboundshe would also gain Higher Dimensional ManipulationTier: Low 1-C, likely higher when unbound
Attack Potency: Low Complex Multiverse level (Destroyed Pandemonium together with Helel Ben Sahar which can destroy the dimensional boundary that separates Sky-realm, Crimson Horizon and Otherworld), likely higher when unbound (Speaker's are Gods that exist beyond Providence of all creation which includes Astral Realm and Crimson Horizon and the mouthpiece placed upon her is meant to hide and contain the Godly powers bestowed by the Omnipotent)
Sandalphon
Tier: 4-A | Low 2-C | Low 2-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | Universe level+ (As Supreme Primarch he can reduce Avatar to ashes with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Universe level+ (Capable of harming Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)AvatarTier: 4-A | at least 4-A possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | at least Low Complex Multiverse level (As Supreme Primarch he destroyed Avatar with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of defeating Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings can fight Lucilius before he awakened the Speaker's power), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)
Tier: At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C
Attack Potency: At least Multi-Solar System level (Zechariah a weapon possessing a fraction of his power can swallow the light until it becomes a Starless Void), likely Universe level+ (Was so strong that Lucifer couldn't kill it and was sealed instead and is hinted to be created along with Metatron to Destroy Etemenanki from inside which was also achieved when Lucilius and Sandalphon at their strongest fought inside Etemenanki. Belial was able to keep up with Sandalphon as Supreme Primarch by absorbing a fraction of its power) can ignore durability with special attackstier changes for profiles getting 2-B will be posted later since more profiles will be affected by itTier: At least 4-A, possibly Low 1-C
Attack Potency: At least Multi-Solar System level (Zechariah a weapon possessing a fraction of his power can swallow the light until it becomes a Starless Void), possibly Low Complex Multiverse level (Was so strong that Lucifer couldn't kill it and was sealed instead and is hinted to be created along with Metatron to Destroy Etemenanki from inside which was also achieved when Lucilius and Sandalphon at their strongest fought inside Etemenanki. Belial was able to keep up with Sandalphon as Supreme Primarch by absorbing a fraction of its power) ignore durability with special attacks
Draft for the explanation page. if it's sufficient enough to explain how Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm is a low 1-C universe and cosmology explanation
removal of Immortality Type 9 for Primal Beast physiology page.Primal Beast Immortality type 9 should be removed except for Zooey because she is reliant on Cosmos and can continue existing as long as she exists except on her new keys that will be added with CRT after this where she became independent from Cosmos before she died
Immortality type 9 negation for people who can permanently kill Primal beast will also be removed
update to Higher-dimensional Existence explanation for Primal Beast on their Physiology pageprimal beast HDE will be updated to
- Higher-Dimensional Existence: Primal Beast are entities reborn to a higher-dimensional existence by the Astrals[8] and they exist in a higher position than the Sky-realm's plane[2]. Their Data caused Ellis to have a Data Flow that has a hyperdimensional perception and sees 3-dimensional space as flat and his influence can manifest physically. Primarchs and Astrals who hail from Astral Realm can also plainly see distortion unlike Ordinary Sky-dwellers whom Beelzebub considers Infinitesimal
Everything looks fineHandful of profiles getting low 1-C rating from the accepted revision. Mostly just proofreading
proposed changes and AP description if Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm are accepted as low 1-C universe
Draft for the explanation page. if it's sufficient enough to explain how Crimson Horizon and Astral Realm is a low 1-C universe and cosmology explanation
removal of Immortality Type 9 for Primal Beast physiology page.
removal of immortality Type 9 negation for characters that can kill them permanently.
update to Higher-dimensional Existence explanation for Primal Beast on their Physiology page
There’s a mistake here. Universal+ shouldn’t be there under the 4-A key.Tier: At least 4-A | Low 1-C | Low 1-C
Multi-Solar System level, likely Universal level+ (Mentioned by Lucilius to be as strong as Primarchs and Lucifer after he absorbed the Primal Core into his being. above the likes of Primarchs and Belial that is far superior to Europa), | Low Complex Multiverse level (killed and caused Pandemonium to crash towards the dimensional boundary. fought Sandalphon and Captain and possessed Avatar's power of void that is intended to destroy Etemenanki from within) | Low Complex Multiverse level (His Chaos Body is completely far above Lucilius has ever achieved and easily brushed off the Entire crew's full assault while using only 50% chaos power within him)
I agree.There’s a mistake here. Universal+ shouldn’t be there under the 4-A key.
Also, the second key attack potency should also fixed; it is missing the "Multi-Solar System level, possibly"Tier: 4-A | at least 4-A possibly Low 1-C | Low 1-C, higher with 12 Wings
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Archangel born from Lucifer's own power and capable of defeating the 4 Primarchs who are far superior than Shiva and Europa) | at least Low Complex Multiverse level (As Supreme Primarch he destroyed Avatar with Paradise lost and inherited all of Lucifer's Wings and Power) | Low Complex Multiverse level (Capable of defeating Belial infused with Avatar's power who is giving Captain a hard time and overpowered Sandalphon with Supreme Primarch Wings can fight Lucilius before he awakened the Speaker's power), higher with 12 wings (12 wings gave him a fighting chance against Lucilius with the help of Captain)
i already replied to your message in the fandom.Wait a little please. I think that I noticed that you added infinite stamina to at least one profile page, with very lacking written justifications.
aight no problem. I'll simply make a CRT if I can find a definitive Stamina rating for her at a later timeI suggested "At least Superhuman, possibly Infinite" on your wiki message wall earlier.
i added improved justification on shalemOkay. Thank youfor helping out. Did you add the improved justifications as well, and were any other character profile pages also affected?
Stamina: Limitless (as long as the old law exist he will have stamina)
bumpfinished updating the profiles for Tier low 1-C and did some clean ups and added scans and reference to some description that I have scans prepared
Now for the 2-B. That has unanimously agreed by everyone
I'll list profiles that will gain it
Akasha
Inchoate World
- Embodiment of Sky-realm's History itself
- Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Tweyen, Seofon, and Seox
- Created a new realm separate from Sky-realm and Astral Realm and Merged with it. Said he is able to reset Sky-realm and all of Creation but he has never interacted with Astral Realm or any low 1-C structure so no low 1-C rating for him only 2-B
- Low 2-C keys will be updated to 2-B
Nier
- When Revenant weapons are fully awakened and used by their Chosen wielder. it is said to be able to destroy the Sky-realm Seven times over which grants them 2-B
- Although they are said to have fought Captain at his strongest. The whole eternal crew was never seen or shown to interact with the strongest enemies Captain Fought except with Six Dragons who are limited in the scope of the entirety of Sky-realm and not Astral Realm or Crimson Horizon
- They will have the same Tier and outline as Seox because his profile is the most updated one among them 3
- Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Cagliostro
- Possessed and gathered the data and information needed to completely destroy and reset Sky-realm and all of creation in her final key
- Similar to Inchoate World
- Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Other changes than 2-B
- Low 2-C will be updated to 2-B
Ellis Stamp
Loki
- Gains Universal+ range with his mindhax by being able to manipulate someone's mind across all time and space and sees 3dimensional space as flat in the OP
- will not give him low 2-C key because this is more of a hax than physical potency that he possessed
- Gains higher dimensional manipulation and Existence for being an Astral like Beelzebub and Lucilius and being able to use Origination to create primal beast who are 4dimensional
After this the CRT can be concluded so I can proceed with another CRT for Abilities updates
Okay. That seems fine then, but please change the "Limitless" wording to "Infinite" instead.Wardant draws his energy from the Law he embodies or technically he is the law of counteraction itself.
his stamina is inexhaustible simply because the law will keep supplying his Avatars unless the law itself no longer exists