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[GRACE] Madara vs Gilgamesh
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Thundercats! HOOOOOOOOOO!
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Madara and gilgamesh wincons?
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Madara by touching Gil with anything and Gil by GoB spam/Low 1-C nuke
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Yeah if Gil notices Madara is that much stronger (which he would passively), he's not really going to hesitate to listen to SNI or to pull out Ea at which point he wins, Gil is fairly arrogant, but he's not suicidal. This is ignoring the fact he has a bunch of stuff in GoB anyway, that can regen neg, dura neg, has various other hax etc.
The only reason he ignored SNI vs Sakura or didn't pull out Ea vs Shirou, besides plot armor, is because incarnated Gil became even more cocky and jobberish, in addition to him seeing himself losing to Sakura, who he viewed as a normal girl, as completely impossible. And the Shirou thing having so many reasons why it shouldn't be indicative of his normal mindset it's not even funny.
The only reason he ignored SNI vs Sakura or didn't pull out Ea vs Shirou, besides plot armor, is because incarnated Gil became even more cocky and jobberish, in addition to him seeing himself losing to Sakura, who he viewed as a normal girl, as completely impossible. And the Shirou thing having so many reasons why it shouldn't be indicative of his normal mindset it's not even funny.
azontr
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Ah, remember the good Ol' days when fate/stay night came out and nobody actually knew that yet?
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The leisure that uses madara's sage chakra could also end the fight very quickly, and even naruto can only dodge by anticipating the attack with the sage chakra
No?
No?
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I thought when this feat got Calc'd that it was agreed that Naruto was just straight up faster than Lightfang to begin with and it wasn't just Aim Dodging with Precog?The leisure that uses madara's sage chakra could also end the fight very quickly, and even naruto can only dodge by anticipating the attack with the sage chakra
No?
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We consider lightfang dodging as reactions, so Naruto didn't precog it or anything, whereas Gil would actually be precogging his moves.
Madara also doesn't really go super all out except for when he realized Naruto and Sasuke post power up were actual threats. So like, while yeah, Madara could hypothetically try to nuke with his super long range stuff, from the start of the match (Light fang isn't even one of those btw), he most likely wouldn't, and even in the case he did, unless he somehow did it before SNI worked, Gil has ways to just not get hit by the attack he knows will kill him
Madara also doesn't really go super all out except for when he realized Naruto and Sasuke post power up were actual threats. So like, while yeah, Madara could hypothetically try to nuke with his super long range stuff, from the start of the match (Light fang isn't even one of those btw), he most likely wouldn't, and even in the case he did, unless he somehow did it before SNI worked, Gil has ways to just not get hit by the attack he knows will kill him
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Yes, such simpiler times lol.
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How much can he see with this SNI?
Could he dodge even if there were 5 Madara's attacking at the same time, or much more if he uses some clone other than limbo?
(I'm not saying it would happen, just knowing how much it can predict)
Could he dodge even if there were 5 Madara's attacking at the same time, or much more if he uses some clone other than limbo?
(I'm not saying it would happen, just knowing how much it can predict)
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How about the other sage art jutsu Could he arrest Gilgamesh if he used her, the Lightning Dispatch of Yin Release?
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i'd say if madara started the battle off serious and rushed him with everything all limbo, multiple chibaku sage arts etc he could pull a win but passive SNI would tell gil hes a big threat, anything madara touches him with would one shot then he'd listen to full SNI to win. sigh
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Voting Gilgamesh because HELL YEAH MONGREL
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Also stop wanking more, it's obvious that Gilgamesh has much wincon in here
azontr
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Very sound argument, very smort, big brain guy over here.
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How much vote and we can close the threads? 6 or 7?
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7 votes are required for grace
GlaceonGamez471
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Gil FRA
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Idk ir I already voted but gil fra
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I feel like I already voted but just in case Gil FRA.
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Grace
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was rooting for Madara but sadly Gil FRA
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From what i see, gil has more wincons
So.. Gil FRA
So.. Gil FRA
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Grace, now we can close this
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Even though this is concluded, just want to point out that madara has never used almighty push or universal pull.
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Don’t wanna be that guy- but uh… Genjutsu…? While I’m no quite sure if SNI happens on eye contact or whatever, I wouldn’t see why Gil wouldn’t look at Madara’s eyes just instinctively before SNI finds the right future for Gil to follow. From the page itself it says that Gil can’t browse through every possibility, and pulling out Ea from a portal takes much more time that just… looking. Izanami doesn’t even need eye contact…. Aaaaand Servants resist illusions FUAH I HATE SERVANT PHSYSSIJJXEKWAH
Regardless I’d like to clarify that Almighty Push is something he used against Naruto’s Rasenshuriken (or was it absorption), either way he can do it and I recall he has. Truthseeking Orbs also change shape and crap to null GoB weapons (which is actually in character), Limbo Clones can do it, Susanoo could work, and pretty much nothing but Sage Chakra and Taijutsu work on the dude, so GoB‘s likely only doing physical force, which ain’t crap. Gil basically has to do Ea, but from I have never seen a quick no charge time Ea ever. In that time Madara could just hit the dude with a Light Fang or smth and dammit speed equal, Gil’s lucky Madara doesn’t start at close range speed equal man.
Regardless I’d like to clarify that Almighty Push is something he used against Naruto’s Rasenshuriken (or was it absorption), either way he can do it and I recall he has. Truthseeking Orbs also change shape and crap to null GoB weapons (which is actually in character), Limbo Clones can do it, Susanoo could work, and pretty much nothing but Sage Chakra and Taijutsu work on the dude, so GoB‘s likely only doing physical force, which ain’t crap. Gil basically has to do Ea, but from I have never seen a quick no charge time Ea ever. In that time Madara could just hit the dude with a Light Fang or smth and dammit speed equal, Gil’s lucky Madara doesn’t start at close range speed equal man.
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SNI is passive.
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Genjutsu wont work on Gilgamesh, SNI is passive and this thread is already over.
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