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That is a comparison. I agree that they don't scale because the mention of Genos alludes to a vague memory.
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Gouketsu Upgrade?
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Genos having an impression after being punched by Gouketsu faster than he could sense him being punched or realizing who punched him is not a fair assessment of strength.
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How about possibly? Since his "bottomless" strength reminds him of saitama and even after seeing saitama just one punch the meteor he still think he's still not enough. Plus he can sense the DC of the meteor but not to Gouketsu.
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he sensed him beforehand and commented on his speed
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He did said "reminds me a little" but then said Saitama + S Class should fight him, the possibility still is there, but yeah, solid scaling it's kinda hard with that
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he says to "safely" beat him
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”Possibly [Meteor Punch Tier]” should be fine
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Only anime
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This is a really weak justification for Elder Centipede's AP scaling to Gouketsu to be honest.
Genos encountered Gouketsu only briefly when Gouketsu beat him - and him questioning if there are even more monsters like Elder Centipede doesn't mean he's thinking "Even Gouketsu was weaker than this monster."
Can't help but feel like extrapolations are being made too often in order to justify ratings for some characters.
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mhm, that is indeed correct.
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A meteor is just a rock. The only scaling I really see as being legitimate is from the meteor punch rather than the meteor itself.
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This is also a terrible justification. What on Earth is going on with our profiles?
Being an another scale in terms of size to "other monsters" doesn't mean they're specifically referring to Vaccine Man's energy blasts.
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i think he's more so reffering to the KE and imagined destruction of z-city
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"And destructive power"
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And where do they say "Destructive power" on that page?
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That's where the possibility rating came from and not like we're talking about some random strong monster it's EC one of the strongest monster within MA and if i remember correctly Gouketsu once stated that there is more stronger monster out there that even Class S heroes can't handle, he call them a dangerous and even acknowledge their strength considering his personality he for sure won't acknowledge and thinks highly of monster who is weaker than him or those monster he had beaten. I'm sure he is just a lackey in MA lmao.
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Cuz he rushed in and got laid tf out pretty often pre-Dark Matter Thieves, so the meme that he's a bad judge of strength is outdated
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That same scan, in the translation that I brought, which was approved by a member who knew japanese, said: "He's on a different scale to other monsters, we should start classifying him as a natural disaster".
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Btw, I agree with scaling him to the meteor. However, there is a misinterpretation here. People think Genos is directly comparing Gouketsu to Saitama, when he's not. There are several times in the series where Genos can't read power levels that are too high for his sensors (example: God Beam). The fact that he brings up "seemingly bottomless strength" means that he can't fully comprehend their peak levels. They are both immeasurable to Genos, but to unknown levels, that's why he wants Saitama to be cautious. The reality is Saitama is a much higher level of immeasurable than Gouketsu.
The fact that valitades the scaling, is that the meteor can be measured by Genos while Gouketsu's inner powers can not be measured. Even the possible comparison between his master and the monster, when he saw Saitama destroy the meteor, imply Gouketsu really is above the rock.
The fact that valitades the scaling, is that the meteor can be measured by Genos while Gouketsu's inner powers can not be measured. Even the possible comparison between his master and the monster, when he saw Saitama destroy the meteor, imply Gouketsu really is above the rock.
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The meteor doesn't have "strength". He is never directly comparing the destructive power of Gouketsu's punches with that of the meteor impact.
I'm still not seeing a lot here that wouldn't make this an outlier for Gouketsu, so I am still opposed to this upgrade.
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The meteor has KE, and he can measure it and its potential effects. Meanwhile, he can not guess Gouketsu's depths, because to his sensors, he is seemingly bottomless.
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That's not enough to mean he is directly comparing him to the meteor, to me.
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how would it be a outlier
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than KE of saitama punching the meteor, gouketsu>Saitamas punch on the meteor
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I would be fine with scaling Gouketsu to a calc of Saitama's punch which destroyed the meteor, but scaling him to the entire meteor's KE seems faulty to me.
The fact that Gouketsu's "total energy" is above the "total energy" of the meteor doesn't matter much based on our standards, because we measure AP by the strength of a single strike. Gouketsu having the total energy of the meteor doesn't mean his punches can hit just as hard, only that the sum of all his punches before he passes out could, theoretically.
The fact that Gouketsu's "total energy" is above the "total energy" of the meteor doesn't matter much based on our standards, because we measure AP by the strength of a single strike. Gouketsu having the total energy of the meteor doesn't mean his punches can hit just as hard, only that the sum of all his punches before he passes out could, theoretically.
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Yeah I don't see Gouketsu scaling to the meteor either, and "The impression I had was of an endless reserve of strength... it was almost like facing master Saitama" isn't exactly what I'd call a reasonable way to scale him to the meteor.
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Same... That definitely shouldn't be enough for him to scale.
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Even if it wasn't a popular verse, I would still disagree... To me it just implies that he is depicted as very strong but then Saitama comes in and says no.
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What? Gouketsu's power was called bottomless and compared his power to Saitama's feats that Genos saw. How is that bad?
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It wasn't fully compared, it just both of them looks like they have bottomless strength... If you want to validate that statement then make him universe lvl as well
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And since when was Vaccine Man a "regular monster"?
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I don’t think it’s the popularity but I think some people just strongly oppose the OPM verse getting stronger. Like not that they don’t have good reasoning or bad reasoning. It’s just they want to keep it at bay.
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Which people? Do you know?
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Nope... I think Saitama can one shot nearly everything and the verse should easily be stronger BUT no feats yet?
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