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deoxys black triangle survives the explosion of the meteor, and then deoxys proceeds to destroy it, can we put that in the ap section as well?
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Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2: Getting to work
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Lou_change
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I mean I am concerned because rayquaza is normally able to fight deoxys with in other media so it seems odd is is able to hold its own even briefly against mega rayquaza.
It was able to dodge and briefly block with speed and defense form respectively but it doesn’t look like it even used attack form.
The generations episode shows it might actually just be the triangle.
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this is what the separation does, it affects mostly legendaries
wdym?
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Other media is irrelevant. This is a canon split, after all
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I assumed that this also exists in the games I referred to other media because I didn’t actually recall the event happening in game. It seems I am simply mistaken.
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Btw here is a sandbox for Meowth's favorite waifu Meowscarada. But i have a few questions to ask
1. The AP, Durability, speed, etc mixes anime and manga. Is there any accepted calcs for the game only versions of these mons
2. How do I handle scans and references. I feel like its redundant when i can just link Bulbapedia at the end.
3. Any suggestions about the sandbox? What do you think of it
1. The AP, Durability, speed, etc mixes anime and manga. Is there any accepted calcs for the game only versions of these mons
2. How do I handle scans and references. I feel like its redundant when i can just link Bulbapedia at the end.
3. Any suggestions about the sandbox? What do you think of it
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Currently, it's:
At most Low 7-B | 7-A | High 7-A
The 7-A comes from scaling to 1/10 of the final evos (Girafarig is 1/10 as strong as Farigiraf). Final evos might become 6-C (though it's barely above baseline) if my Abomasnow calc is accepted
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and megas and gigantamax go back to being just 2x instead of 5 not that it ever made sense to scale gigantamax 5x to megas, but this happened before i could question it so, oh well
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The 5x came from an anime thing, where some random ass Centiskorch Gigantamaxes and suddenly it takes the combined power of Ash's Pikachu, Dragonite, and Riolu to push back its attack
With the new scaling, yeah that kinda just falls flat, even for the anime canon. Should stick to being 2x via scaling above Thick Club Marowak and Huge Power/Pure Power Pokemon
With the new scaling, yeah that kinda just falls flat, even for the anime canon. Should stick to being 2x via scaling above Thick Club Marowak and Huge Power/Pure Power Pokemon
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didn't play scarlet and violet yet, so without plot spoilers, is terrastalize in the same ballpark as megas and gigantamax(scaling to huge power and thick club)?
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Honestly, kinda ambiguous
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i know it makes moves of the same type stronger but idk how stronger
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Not that I disagree, but what was the reasoning for Megas and GMax scaling above that?
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They're both boosts that are in-lore stronger than anything a regular version of the same Pokemon can output
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Mkay. We should add that in the justifications of Mega and GMax mons.
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Send me the Abomasnow calc link, i'll
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Massively Hypersonic+ for the first two stages (scaling to lightning-based attacks), FTL for final stages (scaling from Golem's calc)
If it can learn Strength:
Class K | Class K | Class G
If it can't learn Strength:
Class 10 | Class 25 | Class G
These are all based on calcs I put in the superblog. If anyone has any issues with this scaling, please let me know, as it's the one I'm the most iffy on. Machamp's Class T calc would scale to Mega Evolutions and Gigantamaxes
Same as AP
Stamina and Intelligence should be the same as what we have now, but I'm not sure about Range tbh
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actually, even baby pokemon can learn solar beam, at least one, i checked and budew can
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Thanks. This is all I needed.
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While I haven't found where Budew can learn Solar Beam via leveling, Pokémon like Bulbasaur, Oddish, Sunkern, and Cherubi are perfectly capable of learning it via leveling up, so there's that.
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now that i think about it, shouldn't the lighting dodging be calculated like the ftl wass? because i have saw lighting dodging earning massively hypersonic results instead of massively hypersonic+
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If it's just like how the FTL calc went, then it would be slightly above lightning speed
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yeah, maybe it is not worth it
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No one has commented on Abomasnow feat so far, looks like i should use the "@" command on that blog at this point lel
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TMs only teach a pokemon a move, they dont make them any faster, a budew that someone caught and then didnt train at all other than giving it solar beam is still as slow as normal baby pokemon, also, just looked and cleffa, igglybuff, and togepi can also learn it via TM
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These are wild Pokemon profiles, which only allow for level up and egg moves. Including TMs would require you to change the standard with a CRT
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they dont need to have solar beam on their profiles, im just saying baby pokemon should scale to the speed, TMs dont increase stats, baby pokemon can react to solar beams from other untrained baby pokemon
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I got some additional things I wanna say about the legendary scaling
I think that because "minor legendaries" are a collective status for the likes of legendary trios such as the birds, the beasts, the genies, etc., they should be a similar rating. I propose that this rating is a downscale to baseline 6-B (7 teratons).
This is because of the legendary birds being portrayed as somewhat comparable to, albeit weaker than, Lugia.
These Pokemon are so strong that they have such legends about them, making them significantly superior to final stage Pokemon
I think that because "minor legendaries" are a collective status for the likes of legendary trios such as the birds, the beasts, the genies, etc., they should be a similar rating. I propose that this rating is a downscale to baseline 6-B (7 teratons).
This is because of the legendary birds being portrayed as somewhat comparable to, albeit weaker than, Lugia.
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You keep repeating these same few things, and again I say, if baby Pokemon can't learn Solar Beam via level up, it's ineligible. Wild Pokemon don't have access to TMs. It's that simple. Doesn't matter if it doesn't increase stats
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i mean, having legends just means that they are rare or have special abilities or did important things, some are about strength sure, but i don't see why, say, celebi would have because of strength when none of the entries talks about strength
some contentions:
1 why would any legendarie scale to the birds?
2 i am pretty sure the birds and lugia have absolutely no conections in the games, it is kind of funny how the anime made us associate them so much lol
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They're also just very frequently shown as being above any normal Pokemon in power, this really shouldn't be controversial
1. It's pretty much a baseline for legendaries, especially since they're all significantly above final evos
2. Lugia is still considered the master of the bird trio in the games
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it is just that i don't remember most of them showing power? i just want to make sure that it has an explanation listed, maybe just adding some examples and then putting a note on the verse page? just to be safe
1 i don't think i got the point? the legendaries being superior to wild final evos would make the birds baseline because?
2 wait really? huh, can you send a scan? because i can't remember a moment where they where even referred in the same sentence, was it in go?
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solar beam needs a trainer to give a tm, therefore training, therefore does not apply to a wild pokemon
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