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Golden Sun Discussion Thread

I never heard the part about Doom Dragon being Planet level, and I don't really think there's justification for it, Alex and The Wise One might be, but I'm not 100% certain, so for the time being, I think it's safer to have Alex rated the way he is now. The complete Golden Sun would be At least Planet level as mentioned above.

Doom Dragon is the fusion of two Venus Adepts, and one Mars Adept; they initially takes bonus damage from both Jupiter and Mercury attacks, and more so on Jupiter. They first lose one of the Venus heads, and they lose slight resistance to Venus attacks and become somewhat more resistant to Jupiter attacks. After the second head is lost, they lose their weakness to Mercury attacks as well as resistance to Mars attacks. Personally, I suppose a weakness to those elements is unnecessary to add to their profiles, but they should have a weakness regarding their power and speed being dropped significantly for each head they lose.
 
Alrighty. besides, despite Doom Dragon being composed of Adepts and having technical best things to use against it, some of it's resistances for things it is supposed to be weak to are better than many enemies with no actual weakness to it. I guess instead of giving Doom Dragon weaknesses, we can just leave off Jupiter and Mercury resistances.


Edit: Well, that would've been a given, anyway, but still.
 
I gave them an immunity only to Status Effect Inducement, and One Hit Kill. Other status effect related things like Poison Manipulation, and such, I gave a resistance to.


Edit: There are Status Effects I left off. A good few, actually. I need to add resistances to Power Nullification, Immobilizatio, and Sleep Manipulation.
 
I dont believe that is correct and I beg you change that back.

We dont give game bosses resistances to status inducement unless there is a non-mechanic related way for them to do it. Look at FF villains' pages for example.
 
Unless you can find a quote from a scene that implies that Luck is something existing in the world, its only game mechanic.

I mean, I couldnt even get Resistances to Status via equipment for the FF cast.
 
Well, alright. How about keeping the immunity to One Hit Kill, though? It's obvious that when a Reaper should successfully induce their Instant Death capabilities and it just refuses to work that something should be up.
 
On the golden sun wiki, it states that luck is the chance that you are immune to status effects like being poison, put to sleep, stun, haunted, or one-shotted. They give bosses high luck to be immune to these status effects so, you don't kill them easily.
 
TheHadouCyberspaceWitch said:
Well, alright. How about keeping the immunity to One Hit Kill, though? It's obvious that when a Reaper should successfully induce their Instant Death capabilities and it just refuses to work that something should be up.
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if you have a scan of this, then I agree. resistance to Death manipulation.
 
Not to barge in again, but I have a message for all of you.

Don't use the Visual Editor and don't cite other wikis for information. You all should be able to paraphrase the effects of special attacks in your own words.

In addition, if a character has the abilities of other characters, just list those abilities on the page rather than linking them again and forcing the user to go read through those pages as well.
 
Everytime a character uses a summon of an element, they raise their attack power and resistance to that element.

And I realised that Saturos and Menardi's and I think also Fusion Dragon's pages were made with Visual Editor, as well.
 
After your first post you're asked to always use the Source Editor. Please do so from now on.
 
Also, as I said before, do not use off-site links. Download the images and post them as per our site's format.
 
@Hadou

You're still writing things like this on the profiles:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/goldensun/images/9/91/Summon_Judgement.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20090606022536
 
Yeah, I too had to fix numerous profile problems do to other users using Visual Editor.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Hadou

You're still writing things like this on the profiles:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/goldensun/images/9/91/Summon_Judgement.gif/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20090606022536
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Oh, mind me, I know not how else to apply a GIF.
 
Was the that one obscure attack that permanently disabled one enemy attack used for the rest of the battle? Or something along those lines? I might consider that Power Nullification.

Edit: Power Nullification is already on their profiles.
 
Oh yeah, it's an enemy attack. Nvm about it being on Isaac's profile, but I'd consider that power nullification.
 
But what powers would it nullify? If it nullifies Djinn, it would nullify Martials Arts, wouldn't it? Seeing as it can just make people forget or lose their ability to use classes for a certain amount of time in battle. Bind already nullifies all other notable use of Psynergy, but Djinn Storm and Djinnfest would nullify Martial Arts and debuff stats at the same time.
 
Limited Power Nullification is still Power Nullification; disabling a djinn is also statistics reduction, which is a form of power nullification.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Limited Power Nullification is still Power Nullification; disabling a djinn is also statistics reduction, which is a form of power nullification.
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I'm not saying it isn't Power Nullification, I'm just wanting to widen the range of what can be nullified. The cast of Lost Age can summon Dullahan, so if Djinn Storm can debuff stats further and nullify someone's combat knowledge, then their Power Nullification is even more useful.
 
So does anyone plan on making the profiles for the Dark Dawn villains and the rest of Dark Dawn's cast? I'm going to try to finish the Doom Dragon once I get the time.
 
Oh yeah, I was going to create/upload the images of the other character so I can create the pages.
 
I was thinking about making a page for Susa, but I figured he was irrelevant. I have like a bit over 20 screenshots of gameplay so far, but it is mainly to explain what Psynergy is. I have yet to get to any feats, yet. I want to finish reading the Umineko manga before I progress further in the game. I'm currently at the Northwind Basin, I think that's what it's called, where you first get Ivan. Does anyone intend to play through Dark Dawn for feats? I'm unable to get a DS emulator on my phone that works.
 
I have created a profile for Karis; although, I should note that I'm currently unable to play Dark Dawn ATM as well, so my best option would be to find a decent LP. DS emulators seem awkward IMO.

As a side note, I noticed some people added Square Enix to the categories of some of the characters. I feel it should be known that Square Enix was not involved in developing Golden Sun, it was developed by Camelot; though it was obviously published by Nintendo. So instead of adding Square Enix as a category, Nintendo should be added instead.
 
Nice. All we need so far are the rest of Dark Dawn Cast and the Other section, and we're pretty much done with making Golden Sun profiles for now.
 
Yes, for now. After finishing Bo-bobo, and after I finish reading Umineko, I intend to make an explanation page for Psynergy, and then adding more abilities to Alex's page, after I found out all of what Psynergy consists of.

I have like 20 relevant screenshots of gameplay explaining what it is, so far. I probably won't need half of them to get the gist of it, though.

> Still waiting to see Kraden mention that time, space, and ideas are made of Psynergy.
 
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