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Yes, and pretty much the only villain does not scale to them is Alex, since he's one of the god tiers whom they never fight.
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Golden Sun Discussion Thread
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Can anyone make a list of abilities that Garet can use, then a list for Ivan, then Mia? I'm currently in school so I can't do more than type in messages.
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Alex is comparable to the Wise One, who I think was Planet level. But I can't be too sure. I know the Wise One was incapable of killing Alex.
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Yeah, I do believe those two are Planet level, even with 3 of the four lighthouses absorbed, Alex was described as Almost Omnipotent, (Obvious NLF, but should have a similar rating to what let's say Saitama has). Alex was at that point believed to be capable of destroying the planet if the Wise One hadn't stepped in and shielded the Earth.
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Should Isaac have a higher rating than the rest of his team, seeing as 1/4 of the Golden Sun went into him?
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Well, an "At least" indication is already present and is good enough, but I suppose it could be added in the description next to his AP. It could be noted that he's likely superior to them because of having 1/4 the Golden Sun's power.
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Alrighty. Also, I found more justification of Iris being Star level. Before the fight with Dullahan, he says "I am the shadow, the keeper of light. If you want the sun's power, show me your own."
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I completely forgot that the second time the lighthouse shook the world, a Continent split in half and moved across the ocean.
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Bump. ;-||
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Hadou, will you make a list of abilities that Garet has when you have the free time, except have it in one message so we wouldn't have to go through multiple messages to type down his abilities?
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Garet should have everything Isaac has, except Solar Manipulation. Other than that, they use the same weapons and have basically the same classes. There is one class they have differently, let me check it real quick to see if he has anything different.
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Garet has an attack that Isaac doesn't have called Heat Wave. It should be different from Fire Manipulation. Heat Manipulation, Temperature Manipulation, I don't know what it's called, here.
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Temperature manipulation isn't a thing here. I'm pretty sure Heat wave should be the same as fire manipulation since it just shoots a stream of fire at a single enemy.TheHadouCyberspaceWitch said:
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Alrighty. Then he can do all what Isaac can do except Solar Manipulation.
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Alrighty. Remember, Felix has to same moveset as Isaac, and so does Matthew, minus the Longevity. Tyrell should have the same moveset as Garet, minus the Longevity.
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Can you type me a summary of Felix, Matthew and Tyrell since I haven't played the 2nd or third game?
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I'll work on it tonight and send it tomorrow.
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Alright, I'm not too good with images either, but Garet needs one.
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I tried to pull one out of the Golden sun wikia, but it's not loading a picture on my computer.
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Yeah, it's probably because the image isn't officially uploaded on VS Battles Wiki. I think DarkAnine was good with images though.
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How is it not?
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Felix is the older brother of Jenna and a native of Vale. He was thought to have died many years ago when a catastrophe had struck Vale, but he was rescued by Saturos and Menardi. He is the protagonist of Golden Sun: Lost Age. Felix set off on another journey after the Golden Sun event, and nobody has seen him since.
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Matthew is the son of Isaac and Jenna and the protagonist of Golden Sun: Dawk Daw. He lives in a cabin built by Isaac on the Goma Plateau, a place made as a side effect of the Golden Sun event. Like his father, he ends up saving Weyard, only to return home to find the most potentially dangerous Psynergy Vortex in front of him.
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Tyrell is the son of Garet and the best friend of Matthew. He is the deuteragonist of Golden Sun: Dark Daw. He lives in a cabin built by Isaac on the Goma Plateau, a place made by the side effect of the Golden Sun event. It was through Tyrell's immaturity that the adventure between him and Matthew started, due to him using Kraden's Soarwing to fly, and crash-landing in a nearby abandoned mineshaft, waiting to be rescued. It was there that the first Psynergy Vortex was found, and Isaac and Garet sent their sons and Karis out on their quest that leads to saving Weyard.
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Well, the difference is that the moon doesn't really give off power, but the sun does have energy. And when Dullahan says this, he means it literally, seeing as Iris's attack involves the Sun.
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In Dark Dawn, transforms into the Su. At 10:38.
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Nothing's showing up from that link.
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And? "The power of the sun" still doesn't mean anything. If anything, we'd literally have star level Bleach by that logic because some dude in Bleach was stated to be stronger than the sun or have the power of it. Also, literally the description on the wiki you've been citing states that the foes only fly into the sun because of Iris. A revamped animation really isn't enough to justify creation on that scale, and it was never really implied to have been created.
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Sometimes, "Power of the Sun" is just a fancy word for saying you have attacks composed of solar energy; it doesn't mean you possess enough power to destroy the sun. Also, that video link needs to be typed more properly; 1 character error can ruin the link completely.
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I don't know anything about Golden Sun, but after looking over Matthew's page I thought I'd drop a few things.
1) Please take the time to add a picture. It really isn't hard.
2) Link to characters you're scaling from if they have pages.
3) Add categories to your pages.
4) DO NOT BE LAZY BY SIMPLY LISTING AN EXTERNAL LINK TO ANOTHER SITE FOR ATTACKS AND TECHNIQUES. This is a serious pet peeve of mine. If you aren't going to put in the effort to figure out what abilities a character has, don't bother making it.
If you guys plan on making more Golden Sun pages in the future, I expect you all to at least do the first, third, and fourth things, since it's annoying to dig through a series I know nothing about just to clean up a page someone else made.
1) Please take the time to add a picture. It really isn't hard.
2) Link to characters you're scaling from if they have pages.
3) Add categories to your pages.
4) DO NOT BE LAZY BY SIMPLY LISTING AN EXTERNAL LINK TO ANOTHER SITE FOR ATTACKS AND TECHNIQUES. This is a serious pet peeve of mine. If you aren't going to put in the effort to figure out what abilities a character has, don't bother making it.
If you guys plan on making more Golden Sun pages in the future, I expect you all to at least do the first, third, and fourth things, since it's annoying to dig through a series I know nothing about just to clean up a page someone else made.
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I completely agree with Reppuzan; it is because of how unfinished/messy all those profiles were in the past that they had to be deleted. If you want to create more pages, there is an option to have blog posts for profiles, but wait for the individual pages to be finished before posting them. I will get started on fixing the notable techniques section, but what Reppuzan said is very important.
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My computer won't add or upload any pictures for some stupid reason, which is why they came out without any pics, but the others I'll try to do in the future.Reppuzan said:
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Don't see why Iris isn't Star Level, didn't she like, explode the sun in her animation? And it's constantly stated she's pretty much the strongest thing in the verse, it's not too farfetched to me.
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We didn't see her make the sun go supernova; we only saw her launching enemies into the sun.
