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Goku vs. Garou (Martial Arts Battle)

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The methods are different but the effects are the same. How can they not be compared?
Why is erasing a bitch from existence or poisoning someone to death at a similar to using Vibrations to dust bones and mush organs?

And don't you dare say they both cause death.
 
So you're telling me the complete erasure of the body and soul and an insta kill along another variation of an insta kill is < your organs and bones being turned into mush?
It's not about being better. But being different. The site does not accept it as so and no amount of argumentation will change that without proof. By that logic a character who resists conceptual manipulation should be immune to almost every other offensive hax on the site even if they are normally hurt by physical blows and energy blasts.
 
You don't think er effects organs and bones?
It isn't about what it effects but about what HAPPENS. Of course existence erasure erases the bones. But that's the thing, it ERASES them. It doesn't pulverize or pulp them, it ERASES them. That means no cells, no atoms, no quarks or electrons, nothing.
 
It's not about being better. But being different. The site does not accept it as so and no amount of argumentation will change that without proof. By that logic a character who resists conceptual manipulation should be immune to almost every other offensive hax on the site even if they are normally hurt by physical blows and energy blasts.
that doesn't make sense to me that being the rule and being unaccepted. It could be a case by case basis between the characters being put against one another.
 
Garou's hands are literally engulfed in energy when using GFJ. Plus it shoots an energy projectile.

ERHF is, again, achieved via Shockwave Generation.

Neither Energy Manipulation & Projection or Shockwave Generation are a form of MA...
Are you kidding me? EHRF is Martial Arts. "A wicked style that brings total devastation" Read the Manga. Y'all are doing the most right now.
 
It isn't about what it effects but about what HAPPENS. Of course existence erasure erases the bones. But that's the thing, it ERASES them. It doesn't pulverize or pulp them, it ERASES them. That means no cells, no atoms, no quarks or electrons, nothing.
Exactly my point. Look at what er does compared to what garou's dura neg does. If goku can resist something that erases why would pulverization be a factor?
 
Exactly my point. Look at what er does compared to what garou's dura neg does.
They are two different abilities. Two different applications. Being able to resist one doesn't allow you to be able to resist the other. Stop it. Your entire argument is flawed and makes 0 logical sense.

Stop replying to this clown. He's derailing with his ignorance.
 
If Existance erasure resistance was treated like that every character with it would be completely immune to physical phenomenon.
 
They are two different abilities. Two different applications. Being able to resist one doesn't allow you to be able to resist the other. Stop it. Your entire argument is flawed and makes 0 logical sense.

Stop replying to this clown. He's derailing with his ignorance.
I'm arguing erasure > pulverization. And you're argument is that it's different? of course it is but why would pulverization effect goku when erasure doesn't?
 
I'm arguing erasure > pulverization. And you're argument is that it's different? of course it is but why would pulverization effect goku when erasure doesn't?
Yeah we know erasure is better than pulverization who tf doesn't think that lmao. But it doesn't matter if it's BETTER it matters how it's DONE.

Like bro idk if your even reading the replies right you need some contact lenses or some shit bro.
 
I'm arguing erasure > pulverization. And you're argument is that it's different? of course it is but why would pulverization effect goku when erasure doesn't?
Because they are done in entirely different ways, FFS
 
Yeah we know erasure is better than pulverization who tf doesn't think that lmao. But it doesn't matter if it's BETTER it matters how it's DONE.

Like bro idk if your even reading the replies right you need some contact lenses or some shit bro.
Because they are done in entirely different ways, FFS
Becuase that stronger thing is done in a D I F F E R E N T way
It being done in a different way doesn't change the fact that it's still the stronger of the 2. So why does it matter? shouldn't the effect matter the most? the method and how it's done shouldn't matter.
 
It being done in a different way doesn't change the fact that it's still the stronger of the 2.
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It being done in a different way doesn't change the fact that it's still the stronger of the 2. So why does it matter?
Oh my good ****..

It matters becuase one literally erases you from existence and one is Vibrations. You gonna argue Goku resists a Metal gear HF Blade's macro-Quantam cutting now?
 
Oh my good ****..

It matters becuase one literally erases you from existence and one is Vibrations. You gonna argue Goku resists a Metal gear HF Blade's macro-Quantam cutting now?
What are the effects of the vibrations? goku cancelled out beerus shockwave which has way more range and is stronger than garou's vibrations.
 
Since goku resists something stronger why would something weaker have an effect on him?
1st - Existence Erasure isn't inherently "stronger" than what Garou has, it's completely dependent on the situation/fight.

Garou's Durability Negation could be better within the instance where someone resists Existence Erasure but doesn't resist their internal organs being damaged.

Just because one effect is more "devastating" compared to the other doesn't mean its actually "stronger" within every situation.

2 - Just because Goku resisted something you perceive as stronger then Garou's Durability Negation doesn't mean Goku can actually resist Garou's Durability Negation.

They're two entirely different abilities, with entirely two different functions, actions and results, they can't be compared to each other and such if Goku doesn't have feats of resisting this type of Durability Negation/his organs not scaling relative towards his physical durability then he's getting ****** up by Garou's Durability Negation.

No if, ands or buts about it.
 
1st - Existence Erasure isn't inherently "stronger" than what Garou has, it's completely dependent on the situation/fight.

Garou's Durability Negation could be better within the instance where someone resists Existence Erasure but doesn't resist their internal organs being damaged.

Just because one effect is more "devastating" compared to the other doesn't mean its actually "stronger" within every situation.

2 - Just because Goku resisted something you perceive as stronger then Garou's Durability Negation doesn't mean Goku can actually resist Garou's Durability Negation.

They're two entirely different abilities, with entirely two different functions, actions and results, they can't be compared to each other and such if Goku doesn't have feats of resisting this type of Durability Negation/his organs not scaling relative towards his physical durability then he's getting ****** up by Garou's Durability Negation.

No if, ands or buts about it.
erasure > pulverization. That's a fact. The difference is that one has a weaker effect. And I guess hakai doesn't effect organs or bones.
 
It being done in a different way doesn't change the fact that it's still the stronger of the 2.
There is no definition of what is strong and what is weak, that is not how resistance works. All you are using is "Well, EE is much cooler than shockwaves, so it doesn't affect Goku". Such logic is not even consistent with fiction

For exemple, Mash is able to withstand a stated attack capable of return all to nothing. In the series it is also shown that Mash resists things that destroy his body and soul "without a trace". However, he is still affected by simple things like sound waves that attack the organs. Why? Because there is no correlation between one thing and another
 
erasure > pulverization. That's a fact. The difference is that one has a weaker effect. And I guess hakai doesn't effect organs.
"They're two entirely different abilities, with entirely two different functions, actions and results, they can't be compared to each other and such if Goku doesn't have feats of resisting this type of Durability Negation/his organs not scaling relative towards his physical durability then he's getting ****** up by Garou's Durability Negation."
 
For exemple, Mash is able to withstand a stated attack capable of return all to nothing. In the series it is also shown that Mash resists things that destroy his body and soul "without a trace". However, he still continues to be affected by simple things like sound waves that affect the organs. Why? Because there is no correlation between one thing and another
we can just show the fact that even tho goku resist hakai, Hit durability negation was still able to kill Goku xd
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"They're two entirely different abilities, with entirely two different functions, actions and results, they can't be compared to each other and such if Goku doesn't have feats of resisting this type of Durability Negation/his organs not scaling relative towards his physical durability then he's getting ****** up by Garou's Durability Negation."
what proof do you have that goku's exterior doesn't scale to his interior?
 
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