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I don't see how garou's dura neg is going to work on goku who endured an insta kill poison toxin, who can also lessen damage, and who's body's strong enough to resist er. Bang also survived garou's dura neg and hasn't shown any of the resistances goku's shown. Garou's also not going to be able to copy goku's ui. And even though ki's restricted and techniques can't be used garou wouldn't be able to copy that from goku either. Garou also hasn't fought anyone like ui goku. Whereas goku fought angel moro someone who had ui and beat him.
Resistance to Poison Manipulation and Ressitance to EE are apsolutely not gonna protect from having your organs busted, this is like arguing Goku could survive Ainz's death hax.
 
Again, none of these resistances apply at all to the ability that Garou's durability negation is. That is not how it works and it is never how it will work, so stop arguing it and move on.
I was unaware resisting poison means you resist your insides being turned into dust.

The more you know.

Somebody close this thread please
An insta kill poison. That spreads throughout the body. And hakai something that erases your entire body from existence. And goku's tanked multiple vital hits from granola too. What effect dose garou's dura neg have that goku's resistances don't cover?
 
An insta kill poison. That spreads throughout the body. And hakai something that erases your entire body from existence. And goku's tanked multiple vital hits from granola too. What effect dose garou's dura neg have that goku's resistances don't cover?
Poison=/=other forms of dura neg.

Hakai=Existence Erasure=/=Other forms of dura neg
 
An insta kill poison. That spreads throughout the body. And hakai something that erases your entire body from existence. And goku's tanked multiple vital hits from granola too. What effect dose garou's dura neg have that goku's resistances don't cover?
Because his resistances don't cover Garou's specific dura neg, bro. 🗿
 
Because his resistances don't cover Garou's specific dura neg, bro. 🗿
So what does garou's dura neg do? because a potent insta kill toxin, er, and granola's vital shots are all dura negs. If garou's dura neg targets the organs, goku's able to shift his vitals and he's able to keep incoming attacks from hitting his vitals. If it can spread throughout the body, goku's endured an insta kill potent toxin. And has er. Something that erases both your body and soul.
 
So what does garou's dura neg do? because a potent insta kill toxin, er, and granola's vital shots are all dura negs. If garou's dura neg targets the organs, goku's able to shift his vitals and he's able to keep incoming attacks from hitting his vitals. If it can spread throughout the body, goku's endured an insta kill potent toxin. And has er. Something that erases both your body and soul.
Two of those don't fall under Garou's dura neg, and Granola's doesn't literally dust Goku's bones and nuke his organs if Garou so much as touches Goku's finger or toe.
 
So what does garou's dura neg do? because a potent insta kill toxin, er, and granola's vital shots are all dura negs. If garou's dura neg targets the organs, goku's able to shift his vitals and he's able to keep incoming attacks from hitting his vitals. If it can spread throughout the body, goku's endured an insta kill potent toxin. And has er. Something that erases both your body and soul.
Have you just not been reading the thread?
Moving his organs won't do anything, as Garou's durability negation envelops the entire body upon contact, and even a graze with it is enough to kill someone.
 
a person become immune to physical attacks because resist poison and soul manipulation
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Also can OP confirm if Goku can even use transformations or not since ki is restricted or make it so Goku can use ki but can only use it strictly for h2h
Goku can transform to any form he wants (with no limited time), as long as his stats won't increase and he won't resort to techniques that aren't related to hand-to-hand combat. I just meant Ki attacks are restricted.
 
Have you just not been reading the thread?
Envelope the body and a graze being enough to kill someone. Even though bang survived and he hasn't shown the same resistances that goku has that being enduring a potent insta kill toxin. Have er resistance with er being something that not only kills you instantly but also erases your body and soul from existence. And also unlike goku bang survived garou's dura neg without being able to shift his vitals and keep incoming attacks from hitting his vitals. Like goku's able to do.
 
Envelope the body and a graze being enough to kill someone. Even though bang survived and he hasn't shown the same resistances that goku has that being enduring a potent insta kill toxin. Have er resistance with er being something that not only kills you instantly but also erases your body and soul from existence. And also unlike goku bang survived garou's dura neg without showing with also not being able to shift his vitals and keep incoming attacks from hitting his vitals. Like goku's able to do.
That's not an anti-feat, that just means Bang has a resistance Goku doesn't.
 
Also even if Bang could shift his vitals it wouldn't have helped cause Garou's dura neg envelopes the entire body lmfao.
 
That's not an anti-feat, that just means Bang has a resistance Goku doesn't.
why tf are u mentioning toxin in literally all coments
Garou's dura neg is less potent and weaker than er. Both target the body, spread out and insta kill. And does something similar that goku's shown resistance to. Which is an attack that spreads throughout the body and insta kills you.
 
Garou's dura neg is less potent and weaker than er. Both target the body, spread out and insta kill. And does something similar that goku's shown resistance to. Which is an attack that spreads throughout the body and insta kills you.
The results are produced from entirely different abilities though which is why Goku would not be able to resist it, bro. Please read before you post.
 
Hakai does the same thing. But it also erases you from existence. The potent toxin spreads too and insta kills you.
Hakai is the most barebones simple Existence Erasure, take a crash course on how we treat resistances here, because until you revise site standards, you are arguing against how we do things, so your wrong until you do so, yeah?
 
Hakai is the most barebones simple Existence Erasure, take a crash course on how we treat resistances here, because until you revise site standards, you are arguing against how we do things, so your wrong until you do so, yeah?
I don't think I am wrong. Are the results not the same? the method being different doesn't matter. It's like comparing an attack that sets you on fire with a glance vs an attack that requires contact but also sets you on fire. The results are the same thing. The method is just different. With the glancing attack being better because it just requires a glance.
 
I don't think I am wrong. Are the results not the same? the method being different doesn't matter. It's like comparing an attack that sets you on fire with a glance vs an attack that requires contact but also sets you on fire. The results are the same thing. The method is just different. With the glancing attack being better because it just requires a glance.
The result is massively different.

Hakai literally erases you from existence. Nothing left.

Garou turns your bones and organs into dust and mush respectively.
 
GFJ is just Garou pushing, which is an evolution of a move half-monster Garou did against Darkshine it's martial arts. And ERHF is a martial art.
Garou's hands are literally engulfed in energy when using GFJ. Plus it shoots an energy projectile.

ERHF is, again, achieved via Shockwave Generation.

Neither Energy Manipulation & Projection or Shockwave Generation are a form of MA...
 
I could say the same to you. Garou's specific dura neg is not impressive. And it's something goku has shown multiple resistances to. With one of those resistances being a stronger and more potent dura neg.
Revise site standards and talk to us then, because until you revise them, Goku's resistance to organ attacks isn't sufficient.
 
You need some corelation to use the logic of "If you resist X hax then you resist Y". If, for example, you resist matter manipulation, then most likely you resist deconstruction. But there is no similarity between Haki and Garou's shockwaves, it's like saying that Goku is now invulverable to any physical attacks
 
Revise site standards and talk to us then, because until you revise them, Goku's resistance to organ attacks isn't sufficient.
It's not just the resistance to organ attacks. It's also resistance to the erasure of the body and soul and two different versions of insta kill.
You would be incorrect in saying I'm wrong lmao, Goku has never shown resistance to Garou's specific form of dura neg which turns the opponent's bones and organs into mush, when he does, you can get back to me, but until then...

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Take this, my friend.
So you're telling me the complete erasure of the body and soul and an insta kill along another variation of an insta kill is < your organs and bones being turned into mush?
You need some corelation to use the logic of "If you resist X hax then you resist Y". If, for example, you resist matter manipulation, then most likely you resist deconstruction. But there is no similarity between Haki and Garou's shockwaves, it's like saying that Goku is now invulverable to any physical attacks
Goku cancelled out beerus shockwave.
 
So you're telling me the complete erasure of the body and soul and an insta kill along another variation of an insta kill is < your organs and bones being turned into mush?
I'm telling you that complete erasure of the body and soul and your organs and bones being turned into mush are not at all similar enough to the point Goku would have a logical resistance to them, Clown. Two completely different forms of instant death.
 
It's not just the resistance to organ attacks. It's also resistance to the erasure of the body and soul and two different versions of insta kill.

So you're telling me the complete erasure of the body and soul and an insta kill along another variation of an insta kill is < your organs and bones being turned into mush?

Goku cancelled out beerus shockwave.
No, we're telling you that they literally cannot be compared, they are seperate versions of durability negation, they are literally =/= eachother.
 
Garou's hands are literally engulfed in energy when using GFJ. Plus it shoots an energy projectile.
It's not And Garou used it back before he ever had energy manipulation. That isn't to say Garou can't use it with energy but his strongest showing using it was simply by pushing Saitama into a mountain and propelling himself with his energy. Something Garou won't need to do in an equal stats match. He could just use the one he did against Darkshine. And it has literally zero showings of making a energy projectile
Meant to type RASRF. Roaring Aura Sky Ripping Fist is a martial art that Bang and Bomb use in tandem to send shockwaves and destroy the opponent from the inside as well which is something Garou is shown to use.
Yes, they are. In a fictional setting. They aren't done via special energy manipulation or powers.
 
No, we're telling you that they literally cannot be compared, they are seperate versions of durability negation, they are literally =/= eachother.
The methods are different but the effects are the same. How can they not be compared? because if you compare the results then goku's shown resistances would be enough to deal with garou's dura neg.
 
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