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Clearly not an anti-feat without dishonesty.
Never claimed physical AP scales to Tier 7, just that durability and heat breath do. Durability off nuclear explosions, AP off the sea water calc.
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Godzillas Downgrade
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Never claimed physical AP scales to Tier 7, just that durability and heat breath do. Durability off nuclear explosions, AP off the sea water calc.
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Can you please stop insulting or being aggressive towards me with your comments?
Anyways yes it's one because as I've already explained the feats ends on a much lower scale then you claim it to be which is why you should really drop arguing about it and focus on the other two and why they're overall a more consistent route, and please do it because I feel it'd be more productive on both our ends
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It's not insulting, the fact is simply that the only way it can possibly be interpreted that way is by being disingenuous. It's grasping at the smallest of straws to make it not work. A cave composed of stone would provide no better protection from an atomic bomb than a concrete building, which would be disintegrated even if it was many miles/kilometers away. And the fact the reef was stated to be nearby would contradict the then counter of 'well that means the bomb was far away'. Vaguely stating this drops to building tier without justification is really weird and that's the nicest I can put it. It just blatantly does not make sense.
Furthermore, the same book states placing a hydrogen bomb right next to him and detonating it wouldn't even really pierce his skin. That should immediately warrant some degree of Tier 7. 7-C at the very minimum as I'm unaware of any nuclear warhead below the kiloton values.
Edit: and hydrogen bombs are far superior to the atomic bombs dropped on Japan anyway.
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I personally agree with Tllm tbh.
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I have another confirmation Godzilla 54 survived an H-Bomb instead of a nuclear bomb.
Which still not only tier 7 but City level.
Which still not only tier 7 but City level.
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Surface area
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What happens with surface area?
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It lowers the result, yanno? And we don't really know how close he was. Or his size, since iirc he grew after the nuclear infusion
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This is clearly Tier 7 Godzilla
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That makes no sense. He might have been so far from the explosion it would be tier 9, for all we know.
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It makes sense dude.
And if the guides says he can survive multiple nukes is cause it is that way.
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Prove that the explosion was point-blank and I'll accept it. That guide mentions generic nukes, not H-Bombs, so we have no proof of tier 7 still.
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First nuke generated 20 kilotons Soo.. yeah
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The first nuke, that he did not take point-blank.
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I was talking about the "generic nukes" you mentioned.
The first nuke was Town level, the others were similar in power or even stronger.
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I mean https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...1925/Screen_Shot_2021-01-19_at_3.30.13_PM.png
He can take nukes
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Dude, you're making the same arguments over and over, it's making me nauseous.
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Fair enough, but wording aside- he is making the same argument over and over
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Cause you're not paying attention to my arguments.
Proof of that is that you still insist with the point blank even knowing he can take nukes via the official guides I have posted here which is at very least tier 7.
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Nukes that aren't necessarily tier 7 and aren't necessarily point-blank. The only one we know the potency of was the one that created him.
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Is probably, yes.
What about '''Building level+''', likely '''Town level''' durability?
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Ok.
I think we solved this point.
What else needs to be done in this thread?
I mean Original Godzilla now has an accepted calc for his feats.
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Uh.....no, he didn't. He was already that big.
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Half the blast is raw energy, only about 5-10% is radiation. Such a lazy counterargument. Like you can actually just Google this stuff.
Effects of nuclear explosions - Wikipedia
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Alright, we know his size, so that brings us from that feat being impossible to calculate to that feat being impossible to calculate. Sweet stuff
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How? The only way you can say that is ignoring everything. A nuclear bomb, specified to be a hydrogen bomb, can be tanked in the immediate vicinity, which is point blank range. The inferior atomic bombs used on Japan were Tier 7 detonations, and many of the Pacific ones were as well. Castle Bravo, the direct inspiration, was a 14-15 megaton bomb. Even with the whole stupid 'surface area tho' claim (despite again being point blank) how much energy is even lost?
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Who says that? Where did you get that from?
Cool beans, all of this is speculation. Not baseless speculation, but speculation nonetheless.
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That said I'm fine with a possibly or likely 7-B, that's perfectly fine by me
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From the scans I posted the first time I commented on this lazy downgrade thread.
Speculation sure, based on historical evidence, the context of the time and the rather consistent statements of surviving a nuclear detonation. The conclusion of Tier 7 is speculation, but not unreasonable.
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I would be more polite if it wasn't on loop as some kind of downgrade excuse. It's a rather dumb argument and I'm sick of hearing it.
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It being speculation is why I'm not opposed to a possibly/likely
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Which I've remained within. I don't think it breaks the rules to declare such a low effort Reddit-type argument is lazy on Tilmburg's behalf. He has and is still generally using better arguments. Something like that just devolves the conversation.
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