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For wattage feats, we generally try to limit it to Joules/s scaling to AP. But the 2x multiplier lowball seems fine by me.
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Godzilla Revisions 3.7 (SPOILERS WARNING)
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Funnily there’s a foreign language source that confirms a 2X Multiplier for Evolved Goji, I can send it later if you like
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Send it here to add to the op.
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Evolved Godzilla is twice as powerful than before:Send it here to add to the op.
vs. Kong 2# Godzilla goes all out with a 'Barbie pink' makeover!️This detail is seriously cool
Godzilla's physique is more slender, and his mobility has been upgraded in a straight line! With pink dorsal fins and new sharp spines, the visual impact is off the charts, and his combat power has doubledGodzilla doesn't mince words, the more pink he wears, the tougher he gets
The movie is now showing, hurry to the cinema to witness the king's attack, and join Godzilla in an epic battle on the big screen
(ChatGPT Translation)
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...that's the evolved version
which is supposed to be 20x more powerful...
and I am currently arguing against the 9.2 supercharged multiplier
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DarkDragonMedeus said the 2x Supercharged multiplier is fine.
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That would be for base Evolved, a supercharged Evolved (the one that used the spiral ray) would be the 20x.
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On what basis?
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Where is the source that supercharged = to the fire Godzilla in KOTM
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Basically supercharge is compared to it in the novel but I think it’s more Super Evolved Goji that is on that level
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20x link is down
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Solved
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Technically we got enough staff votes to apply the CRT already so if anything Apex is being generous by waiting so long.
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Ah, what’s a CRT?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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....Content Revision Thread. It's what this thread is considered as you have to make them in order to change stuff on profiles.
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The mods agree with this thread, so what is going to be from now on?
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I mean I'm going to fight for a downgrade whether you implement this thread or not. DDM hasn't responded to me which I am disappointed in so ig I'll talk to some staff and prepare a refutation thread. If you don't apply it now then I'll argue here but if you do just be prepared.
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Arceus, enough. You're being needlessly petty (to say the least) about this.
Downgrade threads that get made purely to spite other upgrades/revisions don't often get as much support as you might think, anyway.
Downgrade threads that get made purely to spite other upgrades/revisions don't often get as much support as you might think, anyway.
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I thought we had come to an agreement that I was going to implement a timeframe for Shimo's feat. Besides making a refutation thread just for a harmless 2x multiplier is too much.
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Imma be honest, a 2x multiplier is not that big nor that game-changing for a form that has less than 5 minutes of screen time, especially when there are bigger and more important things that this thread goes through like Shimo's new feat
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I reaffirm that I didn't change my mind, but I don't want to get stuck on the same topic. I'll not insist more on the 2x multiplier.
The solution for this is that we could rate Godzilla higher than Supercharged Godzilla.
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Just because an inaccuracy is small doesn't stop it from being an inaccuracy
Not that big doesn't work by our rules. We literally can't upscale someone to a higher tier unless they have a 1.5~ difference between their AP and the next tier. If this is how close you need to be for that then no, pulling a multiplier out of your ass isn't gonna follow rules
If fixing an inaccuracy that doesn't follow our own rules is spite then report me.
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Accept your ass got handed to you in the debate and that staff concensus isn't on your side.
I STILL disagree with Raiden's RPL being removed, and you don't see me going and making refute threads about it: I tried my hand in the CRT, staff concensus was against me, and there's no point losing sleep over it.
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Literally preach.
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don't give a shɪt, i'll do what I want and if you have a problem then refute my points
That's a YOU problem. If you can't fight back then don't tell others not to.
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It’s not that big lil bro, it’s only a 2x amp, just sort it out here, even then the basis for the multiplier is that the energy absorbed in gxk is over 2x more than the energy in the nuke which was going to kill him due to overload
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just PROVE it. Seriously all i've seen is a vague twitter statement which was for a different transformation and a scaling chain. 2x amps are not gotten through scaling chains, they are gained through statements and you've yet to provide me one.
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Arceus calm down on god. You don't sound convincing in the slightest, you just sound pathetic and desperate at this point. Staff obviously do not need to agree with your perspective, we'd all appreciate it if you tried not to force folk to agree with you.
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Ah, the arrogance of someone who can't accept defeat.
I'm gonna tell you something I learned a long time ago: no matter how much you kick scream and proclaim "I'm right!", if people didn't agree with you the first time... they're gonna agree even less the second time.
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desperate? Alright let me put it this way then. What is the ******* point of rules in this damned place if all it takes is a "its not that deep lil bro" to break them? Why is it that this is allowed to go through when there's been verses that couldn't get through a lesser gap despite massive scaling chains? Why is it that this thing here is simply allowed a multiplier despite providing no proper evidence for it? Tell me.
Ah, the arrogance of someone who always needs to put themselves above others.
That's why I wasn't even gonna bother with this thread and wanted to make a refutation thread. Because of shit like this. The stuff here blatantly breaks established rules and "it's fine cause I sait it is"?
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There's no rules against something as miniscule as a 2x multiplier. Your definitely overreacting and being needlessly dramatic for no reason.
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First off, the rules generalize multipliers
"Multipliers come from direct statements instead of being reasoned from something else."
2x is a multiplier, so it falls under multipliers. Do they consider 2x a multiplier that falls under the rules? They sure talk about doubling of statistics so they clearly include a 2x multiplier in that.
"That means, for example, that if a verse has powerlevels or statistics, the doubling of a statistic or power level should not be concluded to correspond to the power of the character doubling, unless it is clearly specified to work that way."
so while the quote above isn't related specifically to this case, it proves that a 2x multiplier is considered part of the rules.
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You were given the evidence, you don't like it, and now you're screaming about it.
Aint worth getting your blood pressure up over, watch this.
You see Arceus, what I said above stands. Also, you completely misunderstood what I said and went on your own rant...
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Guys, please calm down; there is no need to continue talking over this topic. I don't want to get stuck on it. I'll not insist more on the 2x multiplier.
Arceus0x is a nice guy. He has done great things for the Godzillaverse.
Arceus0x is a nice guy. He has done great things for the Godzillaverse.
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Context matters. The amount of radiation that Kaiju absorb is directly related to their beams like Godzilla. And he can still damage other Kaiju with his physical blows after taking his atomic breath.
He has 20x the energy capacity of his previous form, with energy capacity being directly linked to the strength of his atomic breath. He can charge up with a vastly higher amount of energy and his strikes can harm those who can take his beam.
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I know he's a nice guy he's just riding people's nerves acting like this lol
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same old formula. Make yourself look better than the guy you disagree with, tell them to calm down and send a bob ross video to make yourself look even better. Predictable like a dhar mann video.
Oh I understood what you said I just used it to say what I was thinking instead.
Proves nothing
I never disagreed with the 20x multiplier. I am disagreeing with the 2x multiplier for the supercharged form which is entirely based on a scaling chain
and yet again, proves nothing.
None of this fits the "Multipliers come from direct statements" bit.
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Ah my apologizes then, seems like I misunderstood what you were disagreeing with. But yeah but the 2x multiplier needs to be directly stated, that you'd be right on.
However there's also this.
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74.03 Teratons x 2 = 148.06 Teratons (Large Country level+)
148.06 Teratons x 20 = 2.96 Petatons (Continent level+)
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