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For wattage feats, we generally try to limit it to Joules/s scaling to AP. But the 2x multiplier lowball seems fine by me.
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Funnily there’s a foreign language source that confirms a 2X Multiplier for Evolved Goji, I can send it later if you likeAnd yet you still have shown no sufficient proof of a multiplier
Send it here to add to the op.Funnily there’s a foreign language source that confirms a 2X Multiplier for Evolved Goji, I can send it later if you like
Evolved Godzilla is twice as powerful than before:Send it here to add to the op.
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...that's the evolved versionEvolved Godzilla is twice as powerful than before:
- https://m.weibo.cn/u/6109987426?jumpfrom=weibocom
DarkDragonMedeus said the 2x Supercharged multiplier is fine....that's the evolved version
which is supposed to be 20x more powerful...
and I am currently arguing against the 9.2 supercharged multiplier
That would be for base Evolved, a supercharged Evolved (the one that used the spiral ray) would be the 20x....that's the evolved version
which is supposed to be 20x more powerful...
and I am currently arguing against the 9.2 supercharged multiplier
On what basis?Fore wattage feats, we generally try to limit it to Joules/s scaling to AP. But the 2x multiplier lowball seems fine by me.
Basically supercharge is compared to it in the novel but I think it’s more Super Evolved Goji that is on that levelWhere is the source that supercharged = to the fire Godzilla in KOTM
Solved20x link is down
Technically we got enough staff votes to apply the CRT already so if anything Apex is being generous by waiting so long.I have no idea how this wiki works with things like this, is there going to be a buff on his profile or not?
Ah, what’s a CRT?Technically we got enough staff votes to apply the CRT already so if anything Apex is being generous by waiting so long.
....Content Revision Thread. It's what this thread is considered as you have to make them in order to change stuff on profiles.Ah, what’s a CRT?
The mods agree with this thread, so what is going to be from now on?On what basis?
I mean I'm going to fight for a downgrade whether you implement this thread or not. DDM hasn't responded to me which I am disappointed in so ig I'll talk to some staff and prepare a refutation thread. If you don't apply it now then I'll argue here but if you do just be prepared.The mods agree with this thread, so what is going to be from now on?
I thought we had come to an agreement that I was going to implement a timeframe for Shimo's feat. Besides making a refutation thread just for a harmless 2x multiplier is too much.I mean I'm going to fight for a downgrade whether you implement this thread or not. DDM hasn't responded to me which I am disappointed in so ig I'll talk to some staff and prepare a refutation thread. If you don't apply it now then I'll argue here but if you do just be prepared.
I reaffirm that I didn't change my mind, but I don't want to get stuck on the same topic. I'll not insist more on the 2x multiplier.Imma be honest, a 2x multiplier is not that big nor that game-changing for a form that has less than 5 minutes of screen time, especially when there are bigger and more important things that this thread goes through like Shimo's new feat
Just because an inaccuracy is small doesn't stop it from being an inaccuracyI thought we had come to an agreement that I was going to implement a timeframe for Shimo's feat. Besides making a refutation thread just for a harmless 2x multiplier is too much.
Not that big doesn't work by our rules. We literally can't upscale someone to a higher tier unless they have a 1.5~ difference between their AP and the next tier. If this is how close you need to be for that then no, pulling a multiplier out of your ass isn't gonna follow rulesImma be honest, a 2x multiplier is not that big nor that game-changing for a form that has less than 5 minutes of screen time, especially when there are bigger and more important things that this thread goes through like Shimo's new feat
If fixing an inaccuracy that doesn't follow our own rules is spite then report me.Arceus, enough. You're being needlessly petty (to say the least) about this.
Downgrade threads that get made purely to spite other upgrades/revisions don't often get as much support as you might think, anyway.
Accept your ass got handed to you in the debate and that staff concensus isn't on your side.Just because an inaccuracy is small doesn't stop it from being an inaccuracy
Not that big doesn't work by our rules. We literally can't upscale someone to a higher tier unless they have a 1.5~ difference between their AP and the next tier. If this is how close you need to be for that then no, pulling a multiplier out of your ass isn't gonna follow rules
If fixing an inaccuracy that doesn't follow our own rules is spite then report me.
don't give a shɪt, i'll do what I want and if you have a problem then refute my pointsAccept your ass got handed to you in the debate and that staff concensus isn't on your side.
That's a YOU problem. If you can't fight back then don't tell others not to.I STILL disagree with Raiden's RPL being removed, and you don't see me going and making refute threads about it: I tried my hand in the CRT, staff concensus was against me, and there's no point losing sleep over it.
It’s not that big lil bro, it’s only a 2x amp, just sort it out here, even then the basis for the multiplier is that the energy absorbed in gxk is over 2x more than the energy in the nuke which was going to kill him due to overloaddon't give a shɪt, i'll do what I want and if you have a problem then refute my points
That's a YOU problem. If you can't fight back then don't tell others not to.
just PROVE it. Seriously all i've seen is a vague twitter statement which was for a different transformation and a scaling chain. 2x amps are not gotten through scaling chains, they are gained through statements and you've yet to provide me one.It’s not that big lil bro, it’s only a 2x amp, just sort it out here, even then the basis for the multiplier is that the energy absorbed in gxk is over 2x more than the energy in the nuke which was going to kill him due to overload
Ah, the arrogance of someone who can't accept defeat.don't give a shɪt, i'll do what I want and if you have a problem then refute my points
That's a YOU problem. If you can't fight back then don't tell others not to.
desperate? Alright let me put it this way then. What is the ******* point of rules in this damned place if all it takes is a "its not that deep lil bro" to break them? Why is it that this is allowed to go through when there's been verses that couldn't get through a lesser gap despite massive scaling chains? Why is it that this thing here is simply allowed a multiplier despite providing no proper evidence for it? Tell me.Arceus calm down on god. You don't sound convincing in the slightest, you just sound pathetic and desperate at this point. Staff obviously do not need to agree with your perspective, we'd all appreciate it if you tried not to force folk to agree with you.
Ah, the arrogance of someone who always needs to put themselves above others.Ah, the arrogance of someone who can't accept defeat.
That's why I wasn't even gonna bother with this thread and wanted to make a refutation thread. Because of shit like this. The stuff here blatantly breaks established rules and "it's fine cause I sait it is"?I'm gonna tell you something I learned a long time ago: no matter how much you kick scream and proclaim "I'm right!", if people didn't agree with you the first time... they're gonna agree even less the second time.
First off, the rules generalize multipliersThere's no rules against something as miniscule as a 2x multiplier. Your definitely overreacting and being needlessly dramatic for no reason.
You were given the evidence, you don't like it, and now you're screaming about it.desperate? Alright let me put it this way then. What is the ******* point of rules in this damned place if all it takes is a "its not that deep lil bro" to break them? Why is it that this is allowed to go through when there's been verses that couldn't get through a lesser gap despite massive scaling chains? Why is it that this thing here is simply allowed a multiplier despite providing no proper evidence for it? Tell me.
You see Arceus, what I said above stands. Also, you completely misunderstood what I said and went on your own rant...That's why I wasn't even gonna bother with this thread and wanted to make a refutation thread. Because of shit like this. The stuff here blatantly breaks established rules and "it's fine cause I sait it is"?
Context matters. The amount of radiation that Kaiju absorb is directly related to their beams like Godzilla. And he can still damage other Kaiju with his physical blows after taking his atomic breath.That means, for example, that if a verse has powerlevels or statistics, the doubling of a statistic or power level should not be concluded to correspond to the power of the character doubling, unless it is clearly specified to work that way."
I know he's a nice guy he's just riding people's nerves acting like this lolGuys, please calm down; there is no need to continue talking over this topic. I don't want to get stuck on it. I'll not insist more on the 2x multiplier.
Arceus0x is a nice guy. He has done great things for the Godzillaverse.
same old formula. Make yourself look better than the guy you disagree with, tell them to calm down and send a bob ross video to make yourself look even better. Predictable like a dhar mann video.You were given the evidence, you don't like it, and now you're screaming about it.
Aint worth getting your blood pressure up over, watch this.
Oh I understood what you said I just used it to say what I was thinking instead.You see Arceus, what I said above stands. Also, you completely misunderstood what I said and went on your own rant...
Proves nothingContext matters. The amount of radiation that Kaiju absorb is directly related to their beams like Godzilla. And he can still damage other Kaiju with his physical blows after taking his atomic breath.
I never disagreed with the 20x multiplier. I am disagreeing with the 2x multiplier for the supercharged form which is entirely based on a scaling chainHe has 20x the energy capacity of his previous form, with energy capacity being directly linked to the strength of his atomic breath.
and yet again, proves nothing.He can charge up with a vastly higher amount of energy and his strikes can harm those who can take his beam.
Ah my apologizes then, seems like I misunderstood what you were disagreeing with. But yeah but the 2x multiplier needs to be directly stated, that you'd be right on.I never disagreed with the 20x multiplier. I am disagreeing with the 2x multiplier for the supercharged form which is entirely based on a scaling chain
However there's also this.Evolved Godzilla is twice as powerful than before:
- https://m.weibo.cn/u/6109987426?jumpfrom=weibocom
74.03 Teratons x 2 = 148.06 Teratons (Large Country level+)Ah my apologizes then, seems like I misunderstood what you were disagreeing with. But yeah but the 2x multiplier needs to be directly stated, that you'd be right on.
However there's also this.