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God of war vs God Gobta
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Can't even touch kratos
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Existence erasure + corruption type 2
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Abstract existence of type 1 concept, so it won't work
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So Power of Hope cuz SBA?
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Btw Gobta is faster in this fight since he has thought acceleration which will amp him upto 10milx times faster
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He should be able to do so by being an ultimate skill user, since he can fight and defeat Angels and angels are considered abstract existence beings in tensura
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For eg the angel of time is time embodiment same as what a god in gow verse is
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bruh, the guy who can touch concepts and control them can't touch Hope Kratos
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Angels are abstract existence as well, which means kratos should be affected
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Also, its specifically mentioned in his profile that Zeus could not "possess" kratos not him being unable to touch kartos
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That's the thing, Fear Zeus, who is abstract, can't even touch PoH Kratos; in fact, he got hurt attempting to do so.
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Right after Kratos unleashes Hope and releases himself from Zeus's grip, Fear Zeus then just tries to punch Kratos but it fails miserably. Zeus tries everything in his book but only ends up hurting himself like how you'd hurt yourself punching a brick wall. He can't even come into contact with Kratos physically let alone possess him.
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That's not how Gods or concepts in GOW work.
The Great Evils by themselves are Type 1 Concepts. Yet Kratos, who becomes a Type 2 Abstract Existence Embodiment for the Power of Hope, becomes completely ******* untouchable to Fear Zeus, who is practically a Type 1 Concept and has Type 1 Abstract Existence at this point.
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Abstract Existence (Type 2. Additionally, absorbed and analyzed angels. Angels were born as conceptual existences that receive power from the Spirit of Light and will revive as long as the Spirit of Light exist),
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And btw Gobta wouldnt try punching kratos, it did probably be something more along the lines of using some skill that can kill kratos after analysing him via great sage
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The point Klol and I made here was that simply negating Angel's abstract wouldn't be enough for it to harm Kratos, since Fear Zeus, who controls all of Pandora's box's evil concepts, isn't harming him at all.
What skill would it be if Zeus' conceptual attack failed to hurt Kratos?
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You seem to have confused AE type 1 with type 2. a type 1 AE exists only as an abstraction, it lacks a physical form. whereas type 2 AE embodies an abstraction without the need to affect said the concept.
It happened that even AE Type 1 beings couldn't touch PoH Kratos, despite his definitive AE Type 2.
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What kind of skill will work against a super-broken AE Type 2 guy like Kratos whom not even AE Type 1 guys with OP Concept Manip Type 1 guys can touch? ATalentedMaid pretty much laid out that this is not how concepts in GOW work.
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Gobta is slower character. If this isn't the strongest top 5 thread..... then his speed amp won't be allowed.
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Speed equalized, amps are allowed on that. Its not just limited to top 5 strongest thread tf u on about
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Yeah angels pretty much are that? You need to sacrifice people for them to come in their physical forms, also they are listed as AE type 2 existences, kratos is the same unless you can prove that Angels in tensura are somehow AE type 1
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Death Heralding Wind: Veldora's ability that's later on inherited by Ranga and by extension Gobuta. This ability creates a huge black storm sphere in which the enemy will be shredded to little pieces by the blades of wind and by the lightning balls. The wind also carries within them a deadly corrosion and decaying properties
Ironically i dont see him having any resistance to decomposition or courrption type 2
Also kratos has no way of perma killing Gobta either, how is he going to go around that
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Whatever, iirc then the match can't be added.
It's incon in that case.
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Immortality Type 8. As long as Hope exists, Kratos can't be killed.
That and Kratos resists Poseidon's Deconstructive Powers that can destroy both the body and soul.
Pointless if it cant even go through an AE Type 1 Concept defending the **** out of an AE Type 2 being from straight up AE Type 1 people with Type 1 Concept Manip.
At best this is an incon as per Gilver's stuff.
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Kratos also being AE Type 2 with Hope means ****-all when AE Type 1 beings with Concept Manip Type 1 can't do jackshit to him.
Fear Zeus lacks a physical form, he is Fear itself. Just look at his profile my guy. He is AE Type 1. Yet he can't do jackshit to PoH Kratos's AE Type 2 because Hope is stronger than Fear.
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Gobta does not have enough stamina, so even with his apeed amp. He will get tired eventually. Then Kratos shanks him.
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Yeah, isn't this a verse mechanic? Don't see why that should matter here.
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Because this "verse mechanic" renders Kratos untouchable to Type 1 Abstracts and Type 1 Concepts like Fear Zeus? That's blatant resistance to being affected by AE Type 1 beings and to Concept Manip Type 1. This isn't just a verse mechanic, it's a literal narrative plot point, ATHENA'S OWN GODDAMN WORDS.
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Isn't it just that they lack the NPI? From what I've seen here gobta can interact with AE type 2
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No, check Kratos's profile, he has NPI for being able to **** up Fear Zeus with Hope (His human form alone while depowered and lacking even the red tattoo can kill souls by snapping their necks), who is literally Fear itself. Read the profiles for once.
Kratos is AE Type 2, but he's immunized to AE Type 1 Fear Zeus because even without Kratos turning into Hope itself, Hope is still massively stronger than Fear, so much so that it could amplify Kratos to the point where he completely ragestomped Fear Zeus and expelled Fear from him.
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Um ... The first thing I will point out is that Hope is considered the most powerful weapon, according to Athena's own words.
Athena revealed that, when Zeus gathered all the concepts and trapped them in Pandora's Box, she placed Hope in the box to counteract the Evil if it were to be opened.
When narratively Hope is considered to be more powerful than fear, it makes me wonder why you would come to the conclusion of this verse mechanic out of nowhere, as it literally meant to stops all of these concepts.
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This again....Sigh. Y'all are confused AE type 2 with type 1.
It's not about whether he is capable of affecting the type 2 AE or not, because it is abstract and something you embody. As such, the comments about angel having type 2 AE, making Gobta able to affect Kratos, are completely irrelevant.
As a matter of fact, Type 2 AE requires no affecting at all; you can just touch them.
Kratos, However, could not be touched by Fear Zeus (who, at this point, has become an abstraction).
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I could not have put it better myself.
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I already voted
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Nobody really voted yet. And regarding the speed amp, looking at Gobta, I dunno what they can do.
They can't blitz Kratos since they're slower and as per SBA, slower characters can't blitz via speed amps in a viable match.
Kratos can't even be touched by Type 1 concepts so they're not exactly harming him before the former just wields Hope against them.
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They can't blitz Kratos since they're slower and as per SBA, slower characters can't blitz via speed amps in a viable match.
Kratos can't even be touched by Type 1 concepts so they're not exactly harming him before the former just wields Hope against them.
Edit: Nvm, someone already voted.
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I don't see gobta have resistance to time manip?
btw can we include Norse Kratos in this fight ?
btw can we include Norse Kratos in this fight ?
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