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Existence erasure + corruption type 2Can't even touch kratos
Btw Gobta is faster in this fight since he has thought acceleration which will amp him upto 10milx times fasterAbstract existence of type 1 concept, so it won't work
He should be able to do so by being an ultimate skill user, since he can fight and defeat Angels and angels are considered abstract existence beings in tensuraAbstract existence of type 1 concept, so it won't work
Angels are abstract existence as well, which means kratos should be affectedbruh, the guy who can touch concepts and control them can't touch Hope Kratos
Also, its specifically mentioned in his profile that Zeus could not "possess" kratos not him being unable to touch kartosbruh, the guy who can touch concepts and control them can't touch Hope Kratos
That's the thing, Fear Zeus, who is abstract, can't even touch PoH Kratos; in fact, he got hurt attempting to do so.He should be able to do so by being an ultimate skill user, since he can fight and defeat Angels and angels are considered abstract existence beings in tensura
Right after Kratos unleashes Hope and releases himself from Zeus's grip, Fear Zeus then just tries to punch Kratos but it fails miserably. Zeus tries everything in his book but only ends up hurting himself like how you'd hurt yourself punching a brick wall. He can't even come into contact with Kratos physically let alone possess him.Also, its specifically mentioned in his profile that Zeus could not "possess" kratos not him being unable to touch kartos
That's not how Gods or concepts in GOW work.For eg the angel of time is time embodiment same as what a god in gow verse is
Abstract Existence (Type 2. Additionally, absorbed and analyzed angels. Angels were born as conceptual existences that receive power from the Spirit of Light and will revive as long as the Spirit of Light exist),That's not how Gods or concepts in GOW work.
The Great Evils by themselves are Type 1 Concepts. Yet Kratos, who becomes a Type 2 Abstract Existence Embodiment for the Power of Hope, becomes completely ******* untouchable to Fear Zeus, who is practically a Type 1 Concept and has Type 1 Abstract Existence at this point.
The point Klol and I made here was that simply negating Angel's abstract wouldn't be enough for it to harm Kratos, since Fear Zeus, who controls all of Pandora's box's evil concepts, isn't harming him at all.Abstract Existence (Type 2. Additionally, absorbed and analyzed angels. Angels were born as conceptual existences that receive power from the Spirit of Light and will revive as long as the Spirit of Light exist),
What skill would it be if Zeus' conceptual attack failed to hurt Kratos?And btw Gobta wouldnt try punching kratos, it did probably be something more along the lines of using some skill that can kill kratos after analysing him via great sage
Angels are abstract existence as well, which means kratos should be affected
You seem to have confused AE type 1 with type 2. a type 1 AE exists only as an abstraction, it lacks a physical form. whereas type 2 AE embodies an abstraction without the need to affect said the concept.Abstract Existence (Type 2. Additionally, absorbed and analyzed angels. Angels were born as conceptual existences that receive power from the Spirit of Light and will revive as long as the Spirit of Light exist),
What kind of skill will work against a super-broken AE Type 2 guy like Kratos whom not even AE Type 1 guys with OP Concept Manip Type 1 guys can touch? ATalentedMaid pretty much laid out that this is not how concepts in GOW work.Abstract Existence (Type 2. Additionally, absorbed and analyzed angels. Angels were born as conceptual existences that receive power from the Spirit of Light and will revive as long as the Spirit of Light exist),
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And btw Gobta wouldnt try punching kratos, it did probably be something more along the lines of using some skill that can kill kratos after analysing him via great sage
Gobta is slower character. If this isn't the strongest top 5 thread..... then his speed amp won't be allowed.Btw Gobta is faster in this fight since he has thought acceleration which will amp him upto 10milx times faster
Speed equalized, amps are allowed on that. Its not just limited to top 5 strongest thread tf u on aboutGobta is slower character. If this isn't the strongest top 5 thread..... then his speed amp won't be allowed.
Yeah angels pretty much are that? You need to sacrifice people for them to come in their physical forms, also they are listed as AE type 2 existences, kratos is the same unless you can prove that Angels in tensura are somehow AE type 1You seem to have confused AE type 1 with type 2. a type 1 AE exists only as an abstraction, it lacks a physical form. whereas type 2 AE embodies an abstraction without the need to affect said the concept.
It happened that even AE Type 1 beings couldn't touch PoH Kratos, despite his definitive AE Type 2.
Death Heralding Wind: Veldora's ability that's later on inherited by Ranga and by extension Gobuta. This ability creates a huge black storm sphere in which the enemy will be shredded to little pieces by the blades of wind and by the lightning balls. The wind also carries within them a deadly corrosion and decaying propertiesWhat kind of skill will work against a super-broken AE Type 2 guy like Kratos whom not even AE Type 1 guys with OP Concept Manip Type 1 guys can touch? ATalentedMaid pretty much laid out that this is not how concepts in GOW work.
Whatever, iirc then the match can't be added.Speed equalized, amps are allowed on that. Its not just limited to top 5 strongest thread tf u on about
Immortality Type 8. As long as Hope exists, Kratos can't be killed.Death Heralding Wind: Veldora's ability that's later on inherited by Ranga and by extension Gobuta. This ability creates a huge black storm sphere in which the enemy will be shredded to little pieces by the blades of wind and by the lightning balls. The wind also carries within them a deadly corrosion and decaying properties
Ironically i dont see him having any resistance to decomposition
Pointless if it cant even go through an AE Type 1 Concept defending the **** out of an AE Type 2 being from straight up AE Type 1 people with Type 1 Concept Manip.or courrption type 2
Kratos also being AE Type 2 with Hope means ****-all when AE Type 1 beings with Concept Manip Type 1 can't do jackshit to him.Yeah angels pretty much are that? You need to sacrifice people for them to come in their physical forms, also they are listed as AE type 2 existences, kratos is the same unless you can prove that Angels in tensura are somehow AE type 1
Yeah, isn't this a verse mechanic? Don't see why that should matter here.Yet he can't do jackshit to PoH Kratos's AE Type 2 because Hope is stronger than Fear.
Because this "verse mechanic" renders Kratos untouchable to Type 1 Abstracts and Type 1 Concepts like Fear Zeus? That's blatant resistance to being affected by AE Type 1 beings and to Concept Manip Type 1. This isn't just a verse mechanic, it's a literal narrative plot point, ATHENA'S OWN GODDAMN WORDS.Yeah, isn't this a verse mechanic? Don't see why that should matter here.
Isn't it just that they lack the NPI? From what I've seen here gobta can interact with AE type 2Because this "verse mechanic" renders Kratos untouchable to Type 1 Abstracts and Type 1 Concepts?
No, check Kratos's profile, he has NPI for being able to **** up Fear Zeus with Hope (His human form alone while depowered and lacking even the red tattoo can kill souls by snapping their necks), who is literally Fear itself. Read the profiles for once.Isn't it just that they lack the NPI?
Kratos is AE Type 2, but he's immunized to AE Type 1 Fear Zeus because even without Kratos turning into Hope itself, Hope is still massively stronger than Fear, so much so that it could amplify Kratos to the point where he completely ragestomped Fear Zeus and expelled Fear from him.From what I've seen here gobta can interact with AE type 2
Um ... The first thing I will point out is that Hope is considered the most powerful weapon, according to Athena's own words.Yeah, isn't this a verse mechanic? Don't see why that should matter here.
This again....Sigh. Y'all are confused AE type 2 with type 1.Isn't it just that they lack the NPI? From what I've seen here gobta can interact with AE type 2
Um ... The first thing I will point out is that Hope is considered the most powerful weapon, according to Athena's own words.
Athena revealed that, when Zeus gathered all the concepts and trapped them in Pandora's Box, she placed Hope in the box to counteract the Evil if it were to be opened.
When narratively Hope is considered to be more powerful than fear, it makes me wonder why you would come to the conclusion of this verse mechanic out of nowhere, as it literally stops all of these.
I could not have put it better myself.This again....Sigh.Y'all are confused AE type 1 with type 2.
It's not about whether he is capable of affecting the type 2 AE or not, because it is abstract and something you embody. As such, the comments about angel having type 2 AE, making Gobta able to affect Kratos, are completely irrelevant.
As a matter of fact, Type 2 AE requires no affecting at all; you can just touch them.
Kratos, However, could not be touched by Fear Zeus (who, at this point, has become an abstraction).