Kratos vs The Doctor | 0-7-0 (grace so real)

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

so like what Rose did?

That's my understanding, yes

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Different mechanics dog.
Different luck.
Etc.

If the mechanics behind why he res' are totally incomparable, they dont exactly translate.
Same reason why logia NPI dont help ageinst ghost intang, or why mind hax res that's biological doesnt inherently help against like Prof X mindhax given the mind in question is different.

I don't see how, you simply mentioned that the doc can draw on Kratos's own luck before Kratos destroys the luck he draws on from the universe, I mentioned he resists that kind of stuff at 6 layers (I also forgot to mention that it is protected by a type 1 concept).

His mere presence prompted a futuristic church to splinter itself into trying to wipe him off of history, manipulating his timeline (time travel shenanigans) in order to create the perfect assassin against him. He made said assassin fall in love with him to the point she risked a time paradox so she didn't have to kill him, despite having said actions imprinted on her from the literal moment she got born.

Lol, that sounds fun.

His literal name made a universal war trying to take control over a crack in time, because if he uttered said name, the Time Lords would've came back and restarted the Time War.

Edit: To be noted as well, his SI works even when his opponents has literally no emotion. He has made computers/AI act irrationally, and even the Cybermen, human cyborgs stripped of the ability to even feel emotions, bend to his will when he really gets serious.

This is cracked holy hell, the only thing that I believe might give Kratos protection is Hope protecting his mind, but not much else

 

[Chariot190]

I don't see how, you simply mentioned that the doc can draw on Kratos's own luck before Kratos destroys the luck he draws on from the universe, I mentioned he resists that kind of stuff at 6 layers (I also forgot to mention that it is protected by a type 1 concept).

I literally just told you how. Completely different mechanics. He isnt drawing it from his soul (also can kratos even do anything to the dr who reality?)

 

[Stillwinston]

Yeah I'm pretty convinced here (No pun intended), voting Doctor for pulling a Courier on Kratos I guess

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

I literally just told you how. Completely different mechanics. He isnt drawing it from his soul (also can kratos even do anything to the dr who reality?)

I know, I said Kratos can destroy the luck he's drawing from with Hope's range.

And yeah, Kratos resists reality Warping currently.

 

[Chariot190]

I know, I said Kratos can destroy the luck he's drawing from with Hope's range.

Can he though? Aint the Dr who cosmology like, >>>>> whatever the **** Kratos is cooking.

And yeah, Kratos resists reality Warping currently.

What's that have to do with anything?

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Can he though? Aint the Dr who cosmology like, >>>>> whatever the **** Kratos is cooking.

Idk, you simply mentioned a universe and not much else.

What's that have to do with anything?

I thought you meant to write (also can kratos even do anything to the dr who reality warps) if it's not relevant we can forget about this.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Idk, you simply mentioned a universe and not much else.

I thought you meant to write (also can kratos even do anything to the dr who reality warps) if it's not relevant we can forget about this.

He didn't mean the Doctor's warps, but literally, the Doctor Who cosmology is bigger than all of GoW, so Kratos wouldn't even be able to do anything to his luck shenanigans.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Does the guy get his luck from a specific part of the setting, like a universe, or does he get it from the entire setting?

 

[Tanin_iver]

Plot Doc accidentaly soloes ig

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This is cracked holy hell, the only thing that I believe might give Kratos protection is Hope protecting his mind, but not much else

Hope wouldn't protect against it because he's not using like, a supernatural means of influencing others. It's literally him just talking. He's just that stupidly charismatic.

 

[Chariot190]

Idk, you simply mentioned a universe and not much else.

Well, i obviously meant the Dr Who uni?

I thought you meant to write (also can kratos even do anything to the dr who reality warps) if it's not relevant we can forget about this.

I said reality, as in, his cosmology.

 

[Chariot190]

Does the guy get his luck from a specific part of the setting, like a universe, or does he get it from the entire setting?

Idk man ive seen like a few episodes and just read the big ass CRTs. Sounded like it was the setting tho.

 

[Georredannea15]

Can he though? Aint the Dr who cosmology like, >>>>> whatever the **** Kratos is cooking.

Aren't they both 5-D here? I don't know why you're arguing for a cosmological difference, or am I missing something?

 

[Chariot190]

Aren't they both 5-D here? I don't know why you're arguing for a cosmological difference, or am I missing something?

Luck comes from the setting, not him specifically, if my understanding is correct.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Hope wouldn't protect against it because he's not using like, a supernatural means of influencing others. It's literally him just talking. He's just that stupidly charismatic.

Alr. But does he use this commonly? And does he try to touch the person physically while doing it?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Alr. But does he use this commonly? And does he try to touch the person physically while doing it?

That's basically what he does. He talks his way throughout everything, making plans along the way to stop whatever plot is brewing.

He doesn't try to touch, no.

Edit: Even when he realizes war is inevitable, he succeeds using his wits and prep and tech. Even when he's forced to legit fight, he still uses his SI. During the Siege of Trenzalore (the war over the crack in time), he was under a truth field that forced him to always tell the truth, he tricked a Cybermen to not even attempt to fight him, prompting it to self destruct. He didn't lift a single finger.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

That's basically what he does. He talks his way throughout everything, making plans along the way to stop whatever plot is brewing.

He doesn't try to touch, no.

Yeah, Kratos is ******.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

So yeah, I guess I vote The Doctor here.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

Yeah, me too

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Also, the Doctor's plot shields are provided by the Eye of Harmony which is 11D, page 162

 

[Tomfer]

Doc FRA

 

[Chariot190]

Also, the Doctor's plot shields are provided by the Eye of Harmony which is 11D, page 162

Quote the important bit

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Quote the important bit

"On the Doctor's homeworld there was indeed a great 'eye' which watched The Doctor and his kind wherever they went, which linked the elementals to the place of their creation and ensured that no harm came to them when they moved from realm to realm."

 

[Greatsage13th]

The Doctor FRA

 

[LazerDim8000]

Doctor frb, do the doctor vs hulk next

 

[Livinmeme]

Isn't this an stomp? Kratos can't do anything because an 11-D force basically reduces 99 points of IQ from him

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

..

Isn't this an stomp? Kratos can't do anything because an 11-D force basically reduces 99 points of IQ from him

Idk why we countine this when i say that this key likely get update to 1-B

 

[Hellbeast]

Through a combination of his social influence and the god watching his memories, made a star god back to sleep out of fear. The god eats memories, dreams, experiences and all of that, and has ate the totality of a solar system's worth throughout millenia. The Doctors speech made it so afraid it refused to wake up.

Nah that's because of the lost potential of Clara's momento; the Doctor explicitly failed to do this. He has made "hidebound tyrants cave" to his reasoning and has commonly manipulated other characters into killing themselves.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Nah that's because of the lost potential of Clara's momento; the Doctor explicitly failed to do this.

I need to rewatch the episode then, I remember the doctor's speech making it recoil.

 

[Hellbeast]

I need to rewatch the episode then, I remember the doctor's speech making it recoil.

it recoils but it's tossed to the side later on and isn't rendered dormant until Clara comes in

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

it recoils but it's tossed to the side later on and isn't rendered dormant until Clara comes in

Just checked, you are right. Impressive nonetheless.

 

[Lord_Infinit]

guys, if the new rev gets aproved the doc´s luck is going to be 37-D at the very lowest, posibly 249-D

 

[Gasper]

i got hit by car yesterday at 12pm

Are you ok.