God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

[KLOL506]

What time?

During the sled pulling scenes

 

[Dalesean027]

THIS HAD A DISCUSSION THREAD THE ENTIRE TIME WTF

I'm hella ******* late its at 21 pages

 

[Epiccheev]

Wonder wich mythology Kratos is going to beat the brakes off after he's done with the nordic. My dude is officialy even worse than a Persona Protagonist.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

THIS HAD A DISCUSSION THREAD THE ENTIRE TIME WTF

I'm hella ******* late its at 21 pages

Oof. Well, better late than never

 

[Dalesean027]

Oof. Well, better late than never

I suppose but man I'm gonna be in like the thread for every major game release this year and the next because I play so much shit

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Likely Egyptian Mythology next.

 

[Dienomite22]

My theory on Surtr is that he could never forge a blade that could contain his power or find a blade that was capable of containing his power. That's why you can see piles of broken and burnt swords around him in some of the gameplays. The Blades of Chaos are gonna be the only thing capable of doing so.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

What are some weapons from Egyptian Mythology?

 

[NeoTengus]

Spoiler

Not sure how true this is but someone said Thor admits that Younger Kratos would have beat him faster, after he loses to Kratos in their final fight.

Also

Spoiler

a final mural seems to hint that Kratos ends up becoming the benevolent king of all the realms in the future. This really might be the final game Kratos stars in with this info...Atreus goes off searching for the remaining Giants, and he might be the one that ends up pantheon hopping in the future while Kratos stays put in the Norse realms.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Don't believe he said that, but does that need to be said? Kind of obvious

 

[Dienomite22]

After Brok's funeral the credits roll. Sindri is completely devasted and is upset at Kratos for some reason.

 

[Dienomite22]

Asgard was destroyed so the Einhajardr or whatever they're called has nowhere to go said Mimir. Freya says Valhalla exists both inside and outside Asgard so there is no telling where they will end up at

 

[Dienomite22]

Also, Thor's wound from the Leviathan axe to the stomach seems to be red and fresh throughout the game. I wonder if that contributes to his death

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Also, Thor's wound from the Leviathan axe to the stomach seems to be red and fresh throughout the game. I wonder if that contributes to his death

Maybe he was weakened by the axe wound because it was Eitr imbued?

 

[Dienomite22]

Maybe he was weakened by the axe wound because it was Eitr imbued?

That's what I'm thinking

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

I wonder who'd win in a fight between a Troll and a Cyclops

 

[Lilixa]

Ok emm where i can find previous God of War 2018 thread ???

 

[Lilixa]

found it : https://vsbattles.com/threads/fixin-up-norse-kratos-profile.112671/

 

[Lilixa]

What’s Next For God Of War

God of War tells an unusually satisfying, self-contained story. But because it exists in this age of interconnected universes and unending franchises, it also contains plenty of hints about where the series might go next.

kotaku.com

 

[Planck69]

That doesn't literally mean omnipresent, more so that his influence can be felt everywhere in the Norse world, despite his lack of personal appearance.

 

[Lilixa]

Barlog: Right [laughs]. But yeah, it is a consistent single universe. As we start to look at these things, there’s little bits, here and there, that let you know. Like, Tyr, had connections to a lot of other pantheons. And there is reference, in Norse mythology, of gods interacting with Roman gods. It’s very small, it’s very minimal, in their connections, but it shows that there was an awareness. And whether that awareness was post-the time where they were moving the pagans away from the pagan religion by having the mythology slightly modified, to kind of move towards Christian religion… I think it is fascinating to imagine that at all times, there [are] these connections to every one of these locations.

 

[Lilixa]

That doesn't literally mean omnipresent, more so that his influence can be felt everywhere in the Norse world, despite his lack of personal appearance.

or it's referring to odin sealed nine-realms at the same time.

 

[Planck69]

or it's referring to odin locked nine-realms at the same time.

I never denied that he sealed them (though, at the same time isn't confirmed anywhere to my knowledge).

 

[Hellbeast]

Yeah Bruno did say that Thor can fight with Poseidon's Hippocampi in a Tweet.

I think he can take Poseidon, as long as he doesn't get deconstructed

I've always imagined Thor was at least right up there with Poseidon and Hades in AP

Maybe he was weakened by the axe wound because it was Eitr imbued?

Possibly, it could be Eitr can negate Aesir Healing?

Wonder wich mythology Kratos is going to beat the brakes off after he's done with the nordic. My dude is officialy even worse than a Persona Protagonist.

Prolly Egypt, it was the original plan before they did the Norse series (plans changed thanks to AC: Origins) and they've long hinted towards that mythology with stuff like Fallen God and 2018. I'd personally love to see them do the Aztec or even Gaelic faiths though myself (Kratos vs Cu Chullain or the Morrigan is sick)

Don't know if this has been posted here yet but here's an hour-long post-story midgard gameplay. Some things to note are Mimir talking about Hel, Jormungandr hating Thor is actually because Mimir thinks Atreus used soul magic to put a giant's spirit into it after learning soul magic in Asgard, a full fight against the Valkyrie replacements who are known as Berzerkers, Kratos and Freya having conversations that strengthen their bond, the female dwarf who replaces Brok telling Kratos about a funeral for Brok that is a sidequest in Swartlfheim. EDIT: coincidentally the same person is streaming some more of post-game ragnarok right now

Spoiler: Spoiler

Wait so are Freya and Kratos friends going forward or is there some romantic undercurrent? IDK if I'm fond of the latter idea

 

[Hellbeast]

I never denied that he sealed them (though, at the same time isn't confirmed anywhere to my knowledge).

TBH I've long felt it's him interfering with the Bifrost but I could be wrong. Also is anyone else not feeling Heimdall's design?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

I've always imagined Thor was at least right up there with Poseidon and Hades in AP

Yeah me too. Dunno know if he could beat them tho. Maybe Poseidon, but Hades might be a little to haxxed for him

Possibly, it could be Eitr can negate Aesir Healing?

Likely, but I feel like this will be ignored lol

Prolly Egypt, it was the original plan before they did the Norse series (plans changed thanks to AC: Origins) and they've long hinted towards that mythology with stuff like Fallen God and 2018. I'd personally love to see them do the Aztec or even Gaelic faiths though myself (Kratos vs Cu Chullain or the Morrigan is sick

Yeah most likely Egypt. One thing I want know is how many creatures come from Egyptian Mythology aside from deities and figures? That's the one problem. Who would Kratos fight? Other than that there's plenty of story and boss material. Aztec gods would be a great fit as well, due to how violent they were.

Wait so are Freya and Kratos friends going forward or is there some romantic undercurrent? IDK if I'm fond of the latter idea

I've always liked the idea of Freya being a love interest. Well Kratos killed her son, but but time can heal and if he'll stay with her for years, she'll warm up to him

Also is anyone else not feeling Heimdall's design?

No he looks 15. I honestly don't like any of the Aesir designs, except for Thor, he's grown on me. I hate this "Grounded" bullshit, and then they'll turn around and throw a Talking squirrel in the game lol. The fanart I've seen looks so much better.

Odin too, although I kinda like him, but I would have had him appear as a sickly old man, or as he already is, for most of the game, and by the time you fight him, he shapeshifts into being 8 feet tall, Jacked as hell, really long hair, and clad in golden armor, looking kinda like marvel Odin, basically.

I expected him to look really ******* cool when he was apparently the hardest character to design, and that was why he never showed up in 2018.

Poseidon clears the whole series in terms of design

 

[Hellbeast]

Yeah me too. Dunno know if he could beat them tho. Maybe Poseidon, but Hades might be a little to haxxed for him

Honestly I think both hax stomp him unless he has resistances, like let my man resist everything we have lmao.

Likely, but I feel like this will be ignored lol

Possibly, it feels specifically there tho

Yeah most likely Egypt. One thing I want know is how many creatures come from Egyptian Mythology aside from deities and figures? That's the one problem. Who would Kratos fight? Other than that there's plenty of story and boss material. Aztec gods would be a great fit as well, due to how violent they were.

There's Ammit and the Sphinx but many need to be invented, which to be fair, both pantheons have engaged in. Like Wulvers aren't from Norse myth, Nor are the Ancients. Aztecs would be sick tho, characters like Quetzalcoatal have incredibly potential

I've always liked the idea of Freya being a love interest. Well Kratos killed her son, but but time can heal and if he'll stay with her for years, she'll warm up to him

True, just feels kinda weird my man kills her son then hits her up later.

No he looks 15. I honestly don't like any of the Aesir designs, except for Thor, he's grown on me. I hate this "Grounded" bullshit, and then they'll turn around and throw a Talking squirrel in the game lol. The fanart I've seen looks so much better.

Odin too, although I kinda like him, but I would have had him appear as a sickly old man, or as he already is, for most of the game, and by the time you fight him, he shapeshifts into being 8 feet tall, Jacked as hell, really long hair, and clad in golden armor, looking kinda like marvel Odin, basically.

I expected him to look really ******* cool when he was apparently the hardest character to design, and that was why he never showed up in 2018.

Poseidon clears the whole series in terms of design

Like I can buy the age, it's clear he's meant to be a foil to Atreus so him being younger makes sense. What I hate tho is he could be basically any other character and it'd work still. There's no real hints of his mythic history there and I wish there were more traits of that in his outward appearance worked in to his design (Like the Gyjallahorn). Thor's cool tho and I love the designs for the other Aesir, really only him and Odin are kinda mid. Like Odin plays up the "old man paranoid" vibe but he's way too simple for someone as hard to design as he was and there's not much to him

 

[Hellbeast]

I kinda wish Odin was a mix of Slave Knight Gael (old, hooded man who's hunched and appears weak but is also incredibly tall and imposing) with a bit of Ian Mcshane's or even the Odin we see in Vikings (Like the black fur cloak with a black hood, only being able to make out the beard and gleaming eye). Then again, I kinda feel Schiff is miscast based off what I've seen, I'd have personally cast someone like Robert Englund here

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

For anyone who understands Spanish, there is a livestream of GoW Ragnarok on YouTube

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Honestly I think both hax stomp him unless he has resistances, like let my man resist everything we have lmao.

If Thor can manage to dodge Poseidon's lightning and not get deconstructed he could do ok. Hades just soul rips and calls it a day.

There's Ammit and the Sphinx but many need to be invented, which to be fair, both pantheons have engaged in. Like Wulvers aren't from Norse myth, Nor are the Ancients.

Yeah, they got to be creative, which I'm sure they'd Excel in. Also by the time Kratos goes to Egypt, I think they should bring back his GOW3 arsenal. With new weapons of course. Along with the wings of Icarus, and boots of Hermes (which would actually work better this time around with the fixed camera)

And ditch all the RPG grindey bullshit, and have armor work like in Ghost of Tsushima, or be purely cosmetic.

Aztecs would be sick tho, characters like Quetzalcoatal have incredibly potential

And they have plenty of creatures to fight from what I've heard. Cool weapons too

True, just feels kinda weird my man kills her son then hits her up later

Just make a new one

Like I can buy the age, it's clear he's meant to be a foil to Atreus so him being younger makes sense. What I hate tho is he could be basically any other character and it'd work still. There's no real hints of his mythic history there and I wish there were more traits of that in his outward appearance worked in to his design (Like the Gyjallahorn). Thor's cool tho and I love the designs for the other Aesir, really only him and Odin are kinda mid. Like Odin plays up the "old man paranoid" vibe but he's way too simple for someone as hard to design as he was and there's not much to him

Yeah him being younger does make sense now that you've mentioned it. He's basically just Hermes 2.0. He looks like a beardless Baldur. I understand that they probably didn't want to go Zeus 2.0 with Odin as he's typically depicted, but all that hype for this? Lol. I do love his performance tho. He for some reason reminds of Edgar Ross from The first Red Dead Redemption

I kinda wish Odin was a mix of Slave Knight Gael (old, hooded man who's hunched and appears weak but is also incredibly tall and imposing) with a bit of Ian Mcshane's or even the Odin we see in Vikings (Like the black fur cloak with a black hood, only being able to make out the beard and gleaming eye)

Exactly. Vikings Odin was sick.

Then again, I kinda feel Schiff is miscast based off what I've seen, I'd have personally cast someone like Robert Englund here

Richard Schiff's performance is great. The final boss lines are a little off, but that's just me. Robert Englund would have been great. I loved his Scarecrow in Injustice 2

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

For anyone who understands Spanish, there is a livestream of GoW Ragnarok on YouTube

Inb4 it gets yanked down

 

[Hellbeast]

Heads up homies, someone posted raw Ragnarok in english

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

No he looks 15. I honestly don't like any of the Aesir designs, except for Thor, he's grown on me. I hate this "Grounded" bullshit, and then they'll turn around and throw a Talking squirrel in the game lol. The fanart I've seen looks so much better.

Odin too, although I kinda like him, but I would have had him appear as a sickly old man, or as he already is, for most of the game, and by the time you fight him, he shapeshifts into being 8 feet tall, Jacked as hell, really long hair, and clad in golden armor, looking kinda like marvel Odin, basically.

I expected him to look really ******* cool when he was apparently the hardest character to design, and that was why he never showed up in 2018.

Poseidon clears the whole series in terms of design[/ISPOILER]

Like I can buy the age, it's clear he's meant to be a foil to Atreus so him being younger makes sense. What I hate tho is he could be basically any other character and it'd work still. There's no real hints of his mythic history there and I wish there were more traits of that in his outward appearance worked in to his design (Like the Gyjallahorn). Thor's cool tho and I love the designs for the other Aesir, really only him and Odin are kinda mid. Like Odin plays up the "old man paranoid" vibe but he's way too simple for someone as hard to design as he was and there's not much to him

I kinda wish Odin was a mix of Slave Knight Gael (old, hooded man who's hunched and appears weak but is also incredibly tall and imposing) with a bit of Ian Mcshane's or even the Odin we see in Vikings (Like the black fur cloak with a black hood, only being able to make out the beard and gleaming eye). Then again, I kinda feel Schiff is miscast based off what I've seen, I'd have personally cast someone like Robert Englund here

Yeah him being younger does make sense now that you've mentioned it. He's basically just Hermes 2.0. He looks like a beardless Baldur. I understand that they probably didn't want to go Zeus 2.0 with Odin as he's typically depicted, but all that hype for this? Lol. I do love his performance tho. He for some reason reminds of Edgar Ross from The first Red Dead Redemption

Exactly. Vikings Odin was sick.

I mean what do you guys expected? SMS isn't similar to those Japanese devs like Fromsoftware that can pulled out some of ultimate badassery fantasy and anime bs designs

This also why west devs aren't great in term of handling the myth/legend/history aesthetic and design, they focused on realistict which hit and miss
Heck, even grounded design by term of east devs are surpassing what west devs capable do

 

[Hellbeast]

I mean what do you guys expected? SMS isn't similar to those Japanese devs like Fromsoftware that can pulled out some of ultimate badassery fantasy and anime bs designs

This also why west devs aren't great in term of handling the myth/legend/history aesthetic and design, they focused on realistict which hit and miss
Heck, even grounded design by term of east devs are surpassing what west devs capable do

I'd disagree, even the grounded Norse aesthetic has designs that looks a lot more interesting and fitting them Heimdall's. That's ignoring the older GOW games which showed much more incredible designs and aesthetics

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I'd disagree, even the grounded Norse aesthetic has designs that looks a lot more interesting and fitting them Heimdall's. That's ignoring the older GOW games which showed much more incredible designs and aesthetics

Thats why i said "hit and miss"

 

[Dust_Collector]

Heads up homies, someone posted raw Ragnarok in english

God damn, as someone who had to deal with the dog I grew up with dying back when I was a kid that scene between Atreus and Fenrir hits hard

 

[Fixxed]

I found something interesting. Ironwood is a concept, that its can absord every memories of past and future. I think every that happen in norse pantheon is already structed by default, and the fate/prophecy is description of that, thats why it stated to be a "memories" that mean already happen

 

[CorneredHarbor]

Most of GoW Ragnarok god designs look pretty bland and generic. Like, what happened? God of War used to be an artistic treat. In my opinion, Olympians from original saga mop the floor with everyone in the Norse saga design wise.

 

[NHTkenshin2]

“Give me grace”
“Give me No Mercy”
New difficulties

 

[CorneredHarbor]

“Give me grace”
“Give me No Mercy”
New difficulties

Sounds pretty good.