God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

[KLOL506]

Hades embodying the Underworld - Low 2-C

Not exactly a feat of containing the Underworld within him. It's more so AE Type 2.

Atlas' hammer having the weight of the Earth - 5-C

6-A+ for Redeemed Warriors.

Kratos holding Atlas' fingers apart as a demigod - High 6-A

Incorrect, it was GoW2 Kratos did this, who at this point had become 2-C for destroying Atlas's Chains of Torment. Kratos backscales from Atlas wanting to kill him for what he did in CoO.

Gaia shaking the Earth - High 6-A

Shaking the Earth is Low 6-B.

Gaia creating small mountains - 7-A

Gaia literally moves continents by breathing.

Poseidon shaking the Earth - High 6-A

Low 6-B

Zeus shaking the Heavens - High 3-A

Zeus shakes the foundations of the entire world AKA stuff pertaining to the World Pillar. 2-C.

Hyperion's spear holding the weight of the cosmos - High 3-A

2-C, there's no differentiation between the physical space and space-time here, or really, the entire Pantheon.

"Shatter Star Shield" having the light of thousand dying stars - 4-B?

It's "bathed" in the radiant light of a thousand dying stars. Luminosity feats wise, it'd prolly be lower. But that's not the purpose of that statement, it's more so to show GoW having a proper cosmology unlike some sub-zero temp IQ takes I see here and there.

Odin creating time from Ymir's body - Low 2-C

Time was created as a side-effect of Ymir getting speared. The more accurate way of explaining this would be "Odin carving up Ymir's body to form 6 of the 9 Realms, each of them being a separate spacetime continuum".

 

[Gasper]

Fixed

 

[chosen]

Here is a compilation of all cosmic feats and statements from GoW:


Greek mythology:
Uranus creating universe - High 3-A

Nyx creating her realm of night - Low 2-C

Morpheus creating his realm of dreams - Low 2-C

Thanatos creating the realm of death - Low 2-C

Atlas surviving the destruction of the World Pillar - 2-C

Cronos creating time - Low 2-C

Atlas holding the world - 2-C

Hercules holding the world - 2-C

Furies creating physical illusions that contain stars - possibly 4-A

Atlas' hammer having the weight of the Earth - 5-C

Kratos holding Atlas' fingers apart - 2-C

Gaia shaking the Earth - Low 6-B

Gaia creating small mountains - 7-A

Poseidon shaking the Earth - Low 6-B

Zeus shaking the Heavens - 2-C

Ares shaking the Heavens and Earth - High 3-A

Hyperion's spear holding the weight of the cosmos - 2-C

Sisters of Fate sinking the Continent - 6-A


Norse mythology:
Thor and Jormungandr shaking the nine realms - 2-C

Thor splintering the Yggdrasil - 2-C

Surtr destroying Asgard and Shaking the World tree to it's very roots - 2-C

Garmr eating all the nine realms - 2-C

Garmr eating part of Midgard and mountains - 7-A

Valkyrie's magic destroying realm at it's very fabric and making Yggdrasil bleed - 2-C

Skoll and Hati eating Sun and Moon - 4-C and 5-C

Surtr creating all the stars in all nine realms - 3-A

Nidhogg's children shewing on Yggdrasil's roots - 2-C

Odin carving 6 realms from Ymir's body - 2-C

Freya destroying Yggdrasil's roots - 2-C

"Shatter Star Shield" having the light of thousand dying stars - 4-B?

Kratos closing the realm tears - Low 2-C

Ymir flooding the whole creation with his guts and blood - 2-C

Kratos and Dragon (probably) shaking Midgard in their battle - High 6-A or 3-A

Buddy brought up 7a shit fot cosmic feats

 

[chosen]

Oh btw one last question about Ares, mainly just curios

How in character the mind hac is considerated to be

 

[KLOL506]

Oh btw one last question about Ares, mainly just curios

How in character the mind hac is considerated to be

I'd say pretty in-character, considering even Soul Manip in GoW can damage one's mind and memories (Which Ares loves to spam in the final phase of his boss fight to no end), plus there being the River Lethe which wipes out all memories and destroys the mind and turns one into a mindless zombie.

 

[Gasper]

Buddy brought up 7a shit fot cosmic feats

LOL

 

[chosen]

I'd say pretty in-character, considering even Soul Manip in GoW can damage one's mind and memories (Which Ares loves to spam in the final phase of his boss fight to no end), plus there being the River Lethe which wipes out all memories and destroys the mind and turns one into a mindless zombie.

Oh bad wording mb
Meant specifically the mind hac he did in the novel unless you mean if he spams the superior version that one being in character isn't out of place

 

[Gasper]

Valkyrie's being capable of flying through nine realms is still in GoW's verse page, it should be removed.

 

[KLOL506]

Valkyrie's being capable of flying through nine realms is still in GoW's verse page, it should be removed.

It should honestly be a thing of Dimensional Travel.

 

[KLOL506]

Actually wait, it did get removed.

 

[Gasper]

"The verse also gains another high-level speed feat due to the Nine Realms, each being separate realities the size of our universe, with the Valkyries being capable of physically traveling through them almost instantaneously to collect the souls of the dead."

 

[KLOL506]

"The verse also gains another high-level speed feat due to the Nine Realms, each being separate realities the size of our universe, with the Valkyries being capable of physically traveling through them almost instantaneously to collect the souls of the dead."

Hmmmmmmmm, must be a relic of a bygone era then.

 

[Gasper]

Hmmmmmmmm, must be a relic of a bygone era then.

It's proly from 2018/19

 

[Gasper]

Is GoW Ragnarök DLC a real thing that will came out?

 

[KLOL506]

Is GoW Ragnarök DLC a real thing that will came out?

I have no idea TBF.

 

[Lilixa]

I believe LoA should get life and death resistance due to transcend life and death.

 

[Lilixa]

Poseidon vs Neptune and Noire

ALTERNATE TITLE: NOT AN GODDESS OF OCEAN, BUT STILL A GODDESS OF THE WORLD, REMEMBER THAT! Ah yeah, back to the Neptunia matches since......my last Neptunia matches that only one that has made lel Yeah, tier 2 matches aren't easy to find out, don't ask why Thankfully now i got some of chars...

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Poseidon vs Kamen Rider Blades

ALTERNATE TITLE: THE OCEAN HISTORY PAGE FINALE - THE GOD OF OCEAN With the celebration of Ragnarok, it's time for me to make some of GoW Matches, starting from the High tiers like this and maybe the tier 7-B too but first i need to find those opponents And yes, who else i'll going to pick...

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i forgot Neptunia has tier 1 stuff. But looks like they lack hax and speed department

 

[Lilixa]

Is GoW Ragnarök DLC a real thing that will came out?

Imagine if Aesir and Vanir united and join forces lead by kratos

 

[Gasper]

I'm pretty sure This shit makes GoW characters 12 universal.

 

[KLOL506]

I'm pretty sure This shit makes GoW characters 12 universal.

Nah. 11.

The Middle Time Mirror where all the Ares shit happens is responsible for the timelines where Atropos loses and Ares wins (That's 2 of them that were currently accepted in the CRT). An additional timeline spawns from the result of Kratos shoving aside Zeus (The mirror behind Clotho's corpse), and of course, the whole "Zeus kills the Spartans in every timeline" stuff by Bruno implying the prior existence of at least one additional timeline. That gives us 4 extra timelines that was accepted in this CRT.

5 main space-time continuums (Underworld, Mainline Mortal World, Domain of Death, Morpheus' Dream Realm and Nyx's Dimension of Eternal Night) plus those 4. We have 9 ATM

Factor in the two additional mirrors on the sides, that's 11.

 

[Gasper]

Nah. 11.

The Middle Time Mirror where all the Ares shit happens is responsible for the timelines where Atropos loses and Ares wins (That's 2 of them that were currently accepted in the CRT). An additional timeline spawns from the result of Kratos shoving aside Zeus (The mirror behind Clotho's corpse), and of course, the whole "Zeus kills the Spartans in every timeline" stuff by Bruno implying the prior existence of at least one additional timeline. That gives us 4 extra timelines that was accepted in this CRT.

5 main space-time continuums (Underworld, Mainline Mortal World, Domain of Death, Morpheus' Dream Realm and Nyx's Dimension of Eternal Night) plus those 4. We have 9 ATM

Factor in the two additional mirrors on the sides, that's 11.

Still pretty nice

 

[Diamentus]

Nah. 11.

The Middle Time Mirror where all the Ares shit happens is responsible for the timelines where Atropos loses and Ares wins (That's 2 of them that were currently accepted in the CRT). An additional timeline spawns from the result of Kratos shoving aside Zeus (The mirror behind Clotho's corpse), and of course, the whole "Zeus kills the Spartans in every timeline" stuff by Bruno implying the prior existence of at least one additional timeline. That gives us 4 extra timelines that was accepted in this CRT.

5 main space-time continuums (Underworld, Mainline Mortal World, Domain of Death, Morpheus' Dream Realm and Nyx's Dimension of Eternal Night) plus those 4. We have 9 ATM

Factor in the two additional mirrors on the sides, that's 11.

CRT gonna be made for the additional 2?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yah could prolly end up shooting for 2-B/2-A GOW if Low 1-C is too controversial

 

[KLOL506]

Yah could prolly end up shooting for 2-B/2-A GOW if Low 1-C is too controversial

Nope, we need something more bulletproof than just Bruno's word of mouth to push for anything beyond 2-C.

 

[Gasper]

After finding out Arche Sonic is Low 1-C because he exists above time and space and is higher dimensional i realized how bullshit that tier really is.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Some people might be outdated tbf

 

[KLOL506]

CRT gonna be made for the additional 2?

In time.

 

[Gasper]

Ocean is stated to be endless is the Novel.

 

[KLOL506]

Ocean is stated to be endless is the Novel.

Mortal World Artwork shows the flat plain to have an edge (Though Bruno apparently said that this is an overt simplification of the true nature of the Mortal Plain. Tweet is lost to time tho). Same can't be said about its cosmos on the other hand.

 

[Gasper]

Mortal World Artwork shows the flat plain to have an edge (Though Bruno apparently said that this is an overt simplification of the true nature of the Mortal Plain. Tweet is lost to time tho). Same can't be said about its cosmos on the other hand.

But can we really take that concept art 100% seriously?

But even if we do, that art dosen't really contradict anything, if anything, it helps support it i think, in mythology Ocean is stated to be an infinite circle around the earth, so that's probably reference to that.

 

[Lilixa]

Well, in art context i think you can create/draw something/object that has edge or border but still has infinite size.

 

[Diamentus]

Mortal World Artwork shows the flat plain to have an edge (Though Bruno apparently said that this is an overt simplification of the true nature of the Mortal Plain. Tweet is lost to time tho). Same can't be said about its cosmos on the other hand.

I don't know about this. The art work also kind of implies that the Underworld exists directly below it, which would contradict what we know currently.

1. The Domain of Death should be in the middle of the two.
2. They're separate universes, but in this concept art, they're treated as one.

 

[KLOL506]

I don't know about this. The art work also kind of implies that the Underworld exists directly below it, which would contradict what we know currently.

1. The Domain of Death should be in the middle of the two.
2. They're separate universes, but in this concept art, they're treated as one.

To be fair, the artwork is kinda a gross oversimplification of the matters at hand, but I remember the authors also stating the Mortal Plain to have an edge, specifically in the Unearthing the Legend documentary by Steven Caterson.

 

[KLOL506]

At the same time tho, devs indeed confirmed the Underworld to be separate from the Mortal World, and the whole "single universe" thing was ultimately put to death by Ghost of Sparta and the Domain of Death, but that doesn't mean everything about the artwork got tossed in the can.

 

[KLOL506]

specifically in the Unearthing the Legend documentary by Steven Caterson.

However, it should be noted that this does not actually apply to the cosmos surrounding this flat Earth, there's no domed firmanent akin to what Homer's followers believed. The cosmos itself is perfectly normal and pretty much like our universe, only that it's infinite in size instead of the standard 93 billion light year radius.

 

[Gasper]

So are we not going use an Endless Ocean statment?

 

[Diamentus]

So the we are not going use an Endless Ocean statment?

If you have a good argument for it, go right ahead. For the most part though, no. Not like it'd grant us much anyways. It'd just boost Poseidon's fist to High 3-A and the hammer to high 3-A.

 

[KLOL506]

So the we are not going use an Endless Ocean statment?

Yeah, we're not gonna use it.

 

[Gasper]

Here Tartarus is described as unending, could this mean the Underworld contains at least High 3-A structure?

Here it's stated that Hecatonchires' laugh reverberates throughout the Underworld.

Is this usable in any way?

 

[Diamentus]

Here Tartarus is described as unending, could this mean the Underworld contains at least High 3-A structure?

Here it's stated that Hecatonchires' laugh reverberates throughout the Underworld.

Is this usable in any way?

1. The Underworld IS a high 3-A structure. This is already established.
2. I don't know about that.