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A while ago, God of War's characters were upgraded to Low 1-C due to scaling to the Yggdrasil, which encompasses the Realm Between Realms, which itself was argued to be Low 1-C due to it separating parallel realms, and because separate geometrically-parallel 4D entities could only be embedded in and separated by 5D space. Most of this reasoning is correct, but there is one key flaw that invalidates this whole chain of logic: the assertion that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel. People seem to just assume that this is true for some reason without ever providing or even seeing evidence to back it up, but this assertion has zero proof behind it and must be discarded. This a grave error that invalidates the justification for Low 1-C God of War from the Norse cosmology entirely since the upgrade of the Yggdrasil to Low 1-C entirely hinges on this assumption that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, a fact that the creator of the Yggdrasil upgrade thread acknowledges (screenshot here for when the link stops working and yes, I've taken a lot of time off between arguing in his wall and making this thread lol). To be more specific, the Nine Realms would have to adhere to a generalization of parallelism into higher dimensions, since parallelism is only really defined for 2D and 1D objects. There isn't really a widely-accepted definition for what constitutes "parallel cubes" for example since discussion of parallel objects is overwhelmingly limited to 1D or 2D objects in 2D or 3D space. In this post, I will go over the flawed arguments for the claim that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, refute them, and make my point as to why it should be discarded, along with the subsequent scaling of the Yggdrasil to Low 1-C based off of geometrical parallelism by extension. (The verse, probably including the Yggdrasil, also scales to Low 1-C via arguments from the Greek cosmology and hypertimelines, but that is something I may address in a later post if my argument here is accepted)
But to start things off, it is imperative that I deal with one issue: obviously, the nine realms are "parallel universes/dimensions." But this does not mean that they are "geometrically parallel" in the sense that they adhere to a generalization of parallelism to higher dimensions. "Parallel universe" is a term that does not necessarily refer to the mathematical concept of parallelism, but simply refers to separate universes. This is entirely different from the concept of parallelism in mathematics, although the former term is obviously inspired by the latter.
Anyways, now that that's out of the way, like I said, there is no proof that the Nine Realms in God of War are geometrically parallel. Such proof is noticeably absent in either of the upgrade threads for the Realm Between Realms or the Yggdrasil, the thread linked to in the RBR thread for "context," or even the separate explanation page for the GOW cosmology.
-A look at the Yggdrasil thread reveals that the thread is basically just 5 pages of agreement with the fact that the Yggdrasil scales to the RBR save for one guy claiming that the statements supporting this fact are "flowery" for some reason (and promptly being refuted), so this thread is irrelevant to this argument.
-The RBR thread does not offer any arguments for the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel either. The posts that do address this claim seem to take the Nine Realms as being geometrically parallel universes embedded in a 5 dimensional space for granted for some reason with no evidence provided or cited. Take DontTalkDT's first post on the matter (which is cited here for example as a reason to upgrade the RBR) or this one here for example. There aren't any actual arguments for the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel in that thread, it is simply taken for granted probably because of the fact that separate realms are often referred to as "parallel universes/worlds" in both fictional and real-life discourse, although this is a problematic connection to make for aforementioned reasons. However, the OP does link to the GOW cosmology explanation page, which does seem to argue for why the Nine Realms are parallel, and which I will address later in this post.
-Mirroring the earlier examples, the thread linked to in the RBR thread for "context" does not offer any arguments or evidence for the realms being geometrically parallel. Again, the only posts that use the word "parallel" simply go off of the assumption that the Nine Realms are parallel without any evidence for such an assumption, such as this one and this one. There are no actual arguments or proof provided that the Nine Realms are parallel here either. However, it does also cite the God of War cosmology explanation page
The God of War cosmology explanation page is the only potential source of any arguments or evidence for the claim that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, however flawed and invalid these arguments or evidence may be, so my refutation of its arguments is practically a refutation of the arguments for Low 1-C Yggdrasil as a whole (save for scaling to Greek GOW cosmology). Thus, this may or may not be the most important paragraph in this post in terms of responding to arguments. The cosmology explanation page never actually makes any explicit arguments for the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel, but it does refer to the Nine Realms section to address the issue of parallelism in the Nine Realms. The Nine Realms section explains that the Nine Realms are spatiotemporally separate realms, which doesn't actually say anything about whether or not they are geometrically parallel. However, it does also claim that "Direct physical travel between the Nine Realms is also impossible, even if you are physically on the branches of the World Tree Yggdrasil itself." This seems to be the justification for the idea that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, as it would be impossible to travel between geometrically parallel realms by physically moving in any of their dimensions. However, the truth is that travel between the Nine Realms is only generally limited to travel in the Realm Travel Room for people like Kratos and Atreus, and there is no reason to believe that this restriction on travel between realms is due to some sort of geometrical parallelism causing direct physical travel between the realms to be impossible. It is shown in God of War that Odin has sealed travel between the realms. That's it. That sufficiently explains the restriction on travel between the Nine Realms. No need for this headcanon about the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel. I've also heard that the Nine Realms are called "parallel" but I have neither seen evidence of this nor evidence that any potential use of the word "parallel" indicates that the Nine Realms adhere to some sort of generalization of parallelism to higher dimensions that is never even used in mathematics as opposed to simply using the common meaning of the term "parallel universe/world/etc" often used both in fiction and in discussing fiction (which is obviously topical in this case).
All in all, there is no evidence or reason to believe that the realms are geometrically parallel. It's possible that they're geometrically parallel, but we don't upgrade things on this wiki based on "possible" assumptions. We need proof since the burden of proof is on those who claim that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, and there simply is no proof of this at all in God of War. Due to Occam's Razor, explanations with more unjustified assumptions must be discarded, and that would include the claim that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel and that the RBR and Yggdrasil are 5D by extension (although they would still scale to 5D due to Greek scaling).
In actuality, there is no evidence that the Nine Realms are parallel, and thus, no need for the RBR, and by extension the Yggdrasil, to be a 5D construct that encompasses them. The assumption that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel is just that: an assumption with no evidence behind it. Thus, due to Occam's razor and the way this site is conducted, it should be discarded.
Tl;dr: It is claimed that the Yggdrasil is Low 1-C since it embeds geometrically parallel 4D spacetime continuums within itself, but I've scoured through the God of War upgrade threads and the fact is that there is literally no proof of that claim at all. My proposition is that due to this, we should discard the Norse arguments for Low 1-C GOW entirely, although the Greek arguments for Low 1-C would still stand for now.
But to start things off, it is imperative that I deal with one issue: obviously, the nine realms are "parallel universes/dimensions." But this does not mean that they are "geometrically parallel" in the sense that they adhere to a generalization of parallelism to higher dimensions. "Parallel universe" is a term that does not necessarily refer to the mathematical concept of parallelism, but simply refers to separate universes. This is entirely different from the concept of parallelism in mathematics, although the former term is obviously inspired by the latter.
Anyways, now that that's out of the way, like I said, there is no proof that the Nine Realms in God of War are geometrically parallel. Such proof is noticeably absent in either of the upgrade threads for the Realm Between Realms or the Yggdrasil, the thread linked to in the RBR thread for "context," or even the separate explanation page for the GOW cosmology.
-A look at the Yggdrasil thread reveals that the thread is basically just 5 pages of agreement with the fact that the Yggdrasil scales to the RBR save for one guy claiming that the statements supporting this fact are "flowery" for some reason (and promptly being refuted), so this thread is irrelevant to this argument.
-The RBR thread does not offer any arguments for the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel either. The posts that do address this claim seem to take the Nine Realms as being geometrically parallel universes embedded in a 5 dimensional space for granted for some reason with no evidence provided or cited. Take DontTalkDT's first post on the matter (which is cited here for example as a reason to upgrade the RBR) or this one here for example. There aren't any actual arguments for the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel in that thread, it is simply taken for granted probably because of the fact that separate realms are often referred to as "parallel universes/worlds" in both fictional and real-life discourse, although this is a problematic connection to make for aforementioned reasons. However, the OP does link to the GOW cosmology explanation page, which does seem to argue for why the Nine Realms are parallel, and which I will address later in this post.
-Mirroring the earlier examples, the thread linked to in the RBR thread for "context" does not offer any arguments or evidence for the realms being geometrically parallel. Again, the only posts that use the word "parallel" simply go off of the assumption that the Nine Realms are parallel without any evidence for such an assumption, such as this one and this one. There are no actual arguments or proof provided that the Nine Realms are parallel here either. However, it does also cite the God of War cosmology explanation page
The God of War cosmology explanation page is the only potential source of any arguments or evidence for the claim that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, however flawed and invalid these arguments or evidence may be, so my refutation of its arguments is practically a refutation of the arguments for Low 1-C Yggdrasil as a whole (save for scaling to Greek GOW cosmology). Thus, this may or may not be the most important paragraph in this post in terms of responding to arguments. The cosmology explanation page never actually makes any explicit arguments for the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel, but it does refer to the Nine Realms section to address the issue of parallelism in the Nine Realms. The Nine Realms section explains that the Nine Realms are spatiotemporally separate realms, which doesn't actually say anything about whether or not they are geometrically parallel. However, it does also claim that "Direct physical travel between the Nine Realms is also impossible, even if you are physically on the branches of the World Tree Yggdrasil itself." This seems to be the justification for the idea that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, as it would be impossible to travel between geometrically parallel realms by physically moving in any of their dimensions. However, the truth is that travel between the Nine Realms is only generally limited to travel in the Realm Travel Room for people like Kratos and Atreus, and there is no reason to believe that this restriction on travel between realms is due to some sort of geometrical parallelism causing direct physical travel between the realms to be impossible. It is shown in God of War that Odin has sealed travel between the realms. That's it. That sufficiently explains the restriction on travel between the Nine Realms. No need for this headcanon about the Nine Realms being geometrically parallel. I've also heard that the Nine Realms are called "parallel" but I have neither seen evidence of this nor evidence that any potential use of the word "parallel" indicates that the Nine Realms adhere to some sort of generalization of parallelism to higher dimensions that is never even used in mathematics as opposed to simply using the common meaning of the term "parallel universe/world/etc" often used both in fiction and in discussing fiction (which is obviously topical in this case).
All in all, there is no evidence or reason to believe that the realms are geometrically parallel. It's possible that they're geometrically parallel, but we don't upgrade things on this wiki based on "possible" assumptions. We need proof since the burden of proof is on those who claim that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel, and there simply is no proof of this at all in God of War. Due to Occam's Razor, explanations with more unjustified assumptions must be discarded, and that would include the claim that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel and that the RBR and Yggdrasil are 5D by extension (although they would still scale to 5D due to Greek scaling).
In actuality, there is no evidence that the Nine Realms are parallel, and thus, no need for the RBR, and by extension the Yggdrasil, to be a 5D construct that encompasses them. The assumption that the Nine Realms are geometrically parallel is just that: an assumption with no evidence behind it. Thus, due to Occam's razor and the way this site is conducted, it should be discarded.
Tl;dr: It is claimed that the Yggdrasil is Low 1-C since it embeds geometrically parallel 4D spacetime continuums within itself, but I've scoured through the God of War upgrade threads and the fact is that there is literally no proof of that claim at all. My proposition is that due to this, we should discard the Norse arguments for Low 1-C GOW entirely, although the Greek arguments for Low 1-C would still stand for now.
