God of War: Ascended Athena Upgrade

[Georredannea15]

Both of those were already addressed in my comment, were I explain the actual context of Cory's words, and not just looking to key words like "higher plane" without seeing the context.



Because the creator of the CRT you linked is the same one of this thread. I'm addressing my points on why I disagree.



That is not an actual argument. If my exact points were "already been discussed before", them name them here. It's not hard.



How it doesn't? See below:



Athena's "higher existence" doesn't go to the Norse Myth, since there are other selfless gods in other pantheons.



The OP literally proposes Low 1-C power for Athena. I'm not saying that it proposes for the Blades of Exile, you simply misinterpreted. I put the word "power" in bold in my comment to clarify that.



Which again can't one-shot the greek gods, a point that you didn't addressed.



I have read it, and there are no "multiverses" like people are claiming. You also didn't addressed Cory's quote from Twitter that debunks said idea.



How exactly that proves she also "transcends" the Egyptian mythology? She still being in her ethereal form has 0 to do with her transcending beings from other pantheons.



That was never my point. I used the scene to discard her 5D AP with the fact that the Blades of Exile were created by her power, yet it can't one-shot the greek gods. Unless you are insinuating that she "upgraded the blades but not with her 5D power", which is a baseless claim.

This is because it goes to the higher dimensional plane beyond the realms. And even if you don't accept this "other pantheons", Athena still remains 5-D. What you're doing is simply distorting and ignoring statements.

 

[KingTempest]

So, serious question: You agree with OP?

Yes

 

[Georredannea15]

Athena's blade empowerment does not directly scale it to L1-C. Because we don't know how much this empowerment is. There is litteraly no basis to directly accept it as L1-C.

Remember that, BoE still can not interact/effect to Athena

 

[KLOL506]

Yes

Another vote it is.

 

[Nostredam]

9 realms...
Yggdrasil...
Greek world...

It contains multiple space-time continuities, all of which are infinite.

This ain't proof of "multiverseS", in plural.

And I just told you you were wrong, how he literally goes and says that via her ascendance she became higher than everbody else.

And where I said something opposite to that? I'm just explaining the actual context of her "transcendence", which is not being dimensionally superior to the greek gods, but rather superior because she achieved a state unbound by the material plane due to her selfless act, which is why she looks down on them in the first place, since that's the message Cory is giving on why said power (being selfless) is above the selfishness of other gods having so much power to the point it has negative effects on them.

And surprise surprise, they aren't good enough.

Not an argument.

I edited my comment to reflect that.

Let's see then:

Like seriously, did you really ignore the "higher power that corrupted her" part that came as a result of achieving this higher existence?

The "corruption" part Cory asserts is essentially on the same context of my previous argument. The reason why Athena is corrupted from that higher power is because her state goes over her mind and made her feel superior to the other gods, which is the exact attitude said gods demonstrate due to their selfish personalities (the negative effect Cory speaks of, which corrupts Athena).

Already seen it but the parts about Athena's existence and higher power have already been hashed out prior to this that aren't in contradiction with whatever comes next.

Addressed them already.

Name one then, because Athena is explicitly stated to be the first god to become selfless and Cory isn't distinguishing here. You're making up headcanon as you go.

Did you even readed my comment or Cory's interview at all? Cory directly names Freya as one of said selfless gods, that is, gods that are not "assholes".

You literally said this:

This is not how any of this works m8. AT ALL. Just because she reforged the Blades doesn't mean they're Low 1-C unless there's confirmation she actually amped them to her level.

More like: what confirmation proves she didn't amped them to her level of existence when she didn't just reforged the blades, but give ethereal properties from her power like Kratos with the BoE being able to summon the spirits of his spartan army? You are the one making headcanons here by literally thinking Athena's "5D power" only amped BoE to a 4D level. The burden of proof is in you, not me.

LMFAO what? Did you seriously read the Fear Zeus arguments and then came to the conclusion that this shit applies to all the Gods in tandem?

Don't even know what you are talking about here. That has 0 relation to my argument.

There's literally no interaction with PoH and the other gods to begin with and the only reason Kratos doesn't one-shot the other gods in the beginning despite being clearly strong enough to do so (Since he held his own against GoW2 Zeus who actually had the power to one shot both his brothers at the same place with a single stray bolt of lightning as per the novel) is because then you'd literally have no game to play at all. Like do people forget that games need QTEs and boss fights to make them fun?

The first two novels from God of War are secondary canon, meaning that anything there that contradicts the game (and there are things that contradict it) cannot be used. And one of those things is Zeus being able to kill Poseidon and Hades with a single strike, despite Kratos not doing so with the latter and using the Claws of Hades to finish him off. And the point is not because you would have "no game to play at all", is because the BoE clearly can't one-shot the gods that are supposedly lower-dimensional to Athena (the one who put her power in the BoE).

Nothing debunks anything here, please read the explanation page again.

Each Pantheon is its own mini-Multiverse with its own number of separate space-time continuums, Greece having 5, Norse having 9, and so on and so forth for other Pantheons. Literally explained in the Explanation Page where it goes in-depth with Cory's tweet.

I will not bring this point further, then, because I would have to directly contest each one of the "proofs" on the Explanation Page about the pantheons being small multiverses. That would have little to do here.

That's literally her selfless form bud. IDK what to tell you at this point.

Yeah? It is. It's her selfless form. Still: "She still being in her ethereal form has 0 to do with her transcending beings from other pantheons."

Because she didn't amp them to her level. Where the **** did you even come up with this?

Already addressed that. Also, for a staff member, your tone seems to be very inappropriate.

She only repaired the Blades, she didn't infuse any of her power into them because there's literally nothing stating otherwise.

There is. Not only her Ethereal Form giving them ethereal properties but we clearly see her aura covering the blades, meaning it's obviously her power infused there.

Like bro, what the **** are you even arguing for? Half your arguments get shot down by the Explanation Pages and common sense and you're not even remotely trying to keep that shit coherent.

Again, for a staff member, your tone seems to be very inappropriate. Refrain to calling any polite counter argument against the post something that "lacks common sense".

What you explained was not the "actual" context. Cory clearly states that there is more power in that higher realm. This is not a metaphor or anything like that.

Precisely, it has more power in that plane because that directly correlates with Cory's message of Athena being selfless, and that power is above being a selfish god, which is a negative aspect that corrupts them. That even makes sense seeing why the Power of Hope is stronger than the Power of Fear.

He talks about Freya being like her. Not that she's directly like her. Which means Freya is not an ascended one.

Because Freya didn't die; it's obvious why she's not equal to Ethereal Athena.

Also, as KLOL said, what you are presenting has nothing to do with Athena's nature.

That's not an argument either.

Athena's blade empowerment does not directly scale it to L1-C. Because we don't know how much this empowerment is. There is litteraly no basis to directly accept it as L1-C.

Already contested above.

This is because it goes to the higher dimensional plane beyond the realms. And even if you don't accept this "other pantheons", Athena still remains 5-D. What you're doing is simply distorting and ignoring statements.

What you are doing is simply distorting my points and thinking that yours have more legitimacy, without actually explaining (and quoting) my arguments and poiting were they are wrong.

Remember that, BoE still can not interact/effect to Athena

That is not a supporting evidence for 5D. It obviously can't intercat with Athena since she is ethereal (non-physical) to the perspective of other beings. Even Kratos with the PoH still on him couldn't interact with her by using the Blade of Olympus.

 

[Planck69]

Each pantheon we've seen so far has multiple accepted space-time continuums within themselves and are separate from each other. That's it. Saying that isn't a small multiverse is hilarious. While there may be pantheons where this isn't the case in the future, there all treated as fairly relative so far.

I could care less about the rest of that. KLOL506 handled it and I'll just add you to disagree. But that asinine take I had to address.

 

[Georredannea15]

That is not a supporting evidence for 5D. It obviously can't intercat with Athena since she is ethereal (non-physical) to the perspective of other beings. Even Kratos with the PoH still on him couldn't interact with her by using the Blade of Olympus.

Hell no. PoH managed to separate the concept of hope from Kratos, and for Athena, PoH and the Blade of Olmypuss were a clear threat. The hope that frightened Athena was completely separated from Kratos by the Blade of Olympuss.

Also, in GoW there are abstract beings who have spiritual and conceptual existence prior to "Higher dimensional existence". In short, Athena's state is not a spiritual, conceptual or abstract being. Because the Olympians, who cannot perceive and interact with Athena, can easily interact with spiritual, conceptual and abstract existences.

 

[Nostredam]

Hell no. PoH managed to separate the concept of hope from Kratos, and for Athena, PoH and the Blade of Olmypuss were a clear threat. The hope that frightened Athena was completely separated from Kratos by the Blade of Olympuss.

I am talking about the BoO being not able to physically interact with Athena, which is what you meant (I think) when you repplied that the BoE can't interact with her.

Also, in GoW there are abstract beings who have spiritual and conceptual existence prior to "Higher dimensional existence". In short, Athena's state is not a spiritual, conceptual or abstract being.

It's obviously spiritual/ethereal, that's literally the form she adopt. And what you said only provides reasoning for a layered (deeper) spiritual/abstract existence (which is obvious, since Kratos can interact with spiritual beings but can't interact with Athena). That still doesn't support 5D.

 

[Deceived3596]

Sure, Low 1-C seems fine given the evidence.

 

[KLOL506]

This ain't proof of "multiverseS", in plural.

LMAO

And where I said something opposite to that? I'm just explaining the actual context of her "transcendence", which is not being dimensionally superior to the greek gods, but rather superior because she achieved a state unbound by the material plane due to her selfless act, which is why she looks down on them in the first place, since that's the message Cory is giving on why said power (being selfless) is above the selfshiness of other gods having so much power to the point it has negative effects on them.

Yeah and? Her being confirmed to be above everyone else and it granting her higher power as a result in the sense that she is existentially superior to them too isn't contradicted

Not an argument.

Not my fault you can't understand basic logic at work here. Next.

The "corruption" part Cory asserts is essentially on the same context of my previous argument. The reason why Athena is corrupted from that higher power is because her state goes over her mind and made her feel superior to the other gods, which is the exact attitude said gods demonstrate due to their selfish personalities (the negative effect Cory speaks of, which corrupts Athena).

I still don't see how this works against Athena's existential level being higher than those of the Gods.

Addressed them already.

And you did a poor job at doing so.

Did you even readed my comment or Cory's interview at all? Cory directly names Freya as one of said selfless gods, that is, gods that are not "assholes".

She still hasn't done the selfless sacrifice required to achieve higher ascendence. Completely irrelevant to Athena's transformation at hand.

More like: what confirmation proves she didn't amped them to her level of existence when she didn't just reforged the blades, but give ethereal properties from her power like Kratos with the BoE being able to summon the spirits of his spartan army?

That's literally Kratos' magic coming back to form. The magic isn't green like Athena herself is so that's already a dead giveaway that it doesn't have her power.

You are the one making headcanons here by literally thinking Athena's "5D power" only amped BoE to a 4D level. The burden of proof is in you, not me.

I ain't the one who made the baseless claims that Athena amped the weapons to her level, you did.

The first two novels from God of War are secondary canon, meaning that anything there that contradicts the game (and there are things that contradict it) cannot be used. And one of those things is Zeus being able to kill Poseidon and Hades with a single strike, despite Kratos not doing so with the latter and using the Claws of Hades to finish him off. And the point is not because you would have "no game to play at all", is because the BoE clearly can't one-shot the gods that are supposedly lower-dimensional to Athena (the one who put her power in the BoE).

Is this some sort of rich joke that I am too poor to understand? Or do game dynamics not mean anything anymore?

The more you keep saying stuff like this the harder it becomes for me to actually take you seriously on the matter.

Yeah? It is. It's her selfless form. Still: "She still being in her ethereal form has 0 to do with her transcending beings from other pantheons."

At this point I'm not sure if you're just purposefully ignoring Cory's arguments for the sake of your argument or you're just being completely clueless as to how those statements work in the first place.

Already addressed that. Also, for a staff member, your tone seems to be very inappropriate.

It's a little bit of crass, it wasn't targeted at you.

There is. Not only her Ethereal Form giving them ethereal properties but we clearly see her aura covering the blades, meaning it's obviously her power infused there.

LMAO no, the aura covering the Blades aren't Green, they're the same aura as the flames they produce.

Again, for a staff member, your tone seems to be very inappropriate. Refrain to calling any polite counter argument against the post something that "lacks common sense".

You're just needlessly calling stuff appropriate just because their comments happened to be ladened with profanities, but it's no secret that your arguments are legitimately bad and ubsustantiated takes that have no logical or narrative basis to begin with.

Precisely, it has more power in that plane because that directly correlates with Cory's message of Athena being selfless, and that power is above being a selfish god, which is a negative aspect that corrupts them. That even makes sense seeing why the Power of Hope is stronger than the Power of Fear.

Completely irrelevant to Athena's nature at hand.

Because Freya didn't die; it's obvious why she's not equal to Ethereal Athena.

Okay and? This means nothing for Athena's nature.

That's not an argument either.

Yes it is, you just like ignoring it because it does not suit your narrative.

Already contested above.

For all the wrong reasons.

What you are doing is simply distorting my points and thinking that yours have more legitimacy, without actually explaining (and quoting) my arguments and poiting were they are wrong.

Other way around bud.

That is not a supporting evidence for 5D. It obviously can't intercat with Athena since she is ethereal (non-physical) to the perspective of other beings. Even Kratos with the PoH still on him couldn't interact with her by using the Blade of Olympus.

LMFAO no, he didn't aim to hit her, he literally swung above her head. Go frame by frame and you will see. The Blade never hits her, it goes above her head. Kratos literally did a little bit of trolling with her just to deny her payday.

 

[KLOL506]

I am talking about the BoO being not able to physically interact with Athena, which is what you meant (I think) when you repplied that the BoE can't interact with her.

Already debunked. Kratos never swings the Blade through her, which you can see if you go frame-by-frame, it goes directly above her head.

It's obviously spiritual/ethereal, that's literally the form she adopt. And what you said only provides reasoning for a layered (deeper) spiritual/abstract existence (which is obvious, since Kratos can interact with spiritual beings but can't interact with Athena). That still doesn't support 5D.

You do you I suppose. Can't be bothered explaining to a stone wall with some of the objectively worst takes I have seen in a long while.

 

[Georredannea15]

It's obviously spiritual/ethereal, that's literally the form she adopt. And what you said only provides reasoning for a layered (deeper) spiritual/abstract existence (which is obvious, since Kratos can interact with spiritual beings but can't interact with Athena). That still doesn't support 5D.

But, this is not a layered abstract existence. Because Cory Barlog makes it clear that this is a higher dimensional plane of existence that completely transcends the Greek world. When supported by other statements and within the verse, this evolves to 5-D.

And that was the last answer I gave you. I will no longer discuss the already much discussed 5-D with you here.

I would also like to point out that a structure that contains more than one space-time continuums technically contains a multiverse.

 

[Georredannea15]

@Nostredam Also, the reason for this corruption is higher dimensional power from higher dimensional existence and literally learning the truth itself in the higher existence... This is exactly what Odin wanted.

 

[Planck69]

I am talking about the BoO being not able to physically interact with Athena, which is what you meant (I think) when you repplied that the BoE can't interact with her.

What nonsense is this? I somehow missed it when I was addressing an even worse take. You do realize he never actually meant to swing it at her right? He passes it over her head and stabs himself.

I've heard a lot of asinine arguments but you keep taking the cake more than 40s Lex Luthor, again and again.

 

[KLOL506]

What nonsense is this? I somehow missed it it addressing an even worse take. You do realize he never actually meant to swing it at her right? He passes it over her head and stabs himself.

I've heard a lot of asinine arguments but you keep taking the cake more than 40s Lex Luthor, again and again.

Honestly at this point this dude seems to be derailing far harder than everyone else on this thread with some of the baseless and most asinine takes I have ever seen in my entire life, like they're legitimately just logic-defyingly bad to the point where I'mma be forced to just tell the dude to straight up stop bringing up these arguments over and over again because majority of them are completely irrelevant to Athena's nature of being and do nothing to tackle the actual OP, hell, he already conceded to not wanting to talk about the Explanation Page, while the majority of his other arguments are blatantly ignoring everything presented here so far with one asinine take after another like "Oh no BoE got amped to Low 1-C" and what have you.

 

[Nostredam]

Yeah and? Her being confirmed to be above everyone else and it granting her higher power as a result in the sense that she is existentially superior to them too isn't contradicted

Which, again, I never said the opposite. My first comment was meant to actually counter the interpretation of it being higher dimensionality. If you can't understand that, shame.

Not my fault you can't understand basic logic at work here. Next.

So saying "And surprise surprise, they aren't good enough" is "basic logic"?

I still don't see how this works against Athena's existential level being higher than those of the Gods.

Because the argument simply counters it "working" as higher dimensionality.

And you did a poor job at doing so.

You're just needlessly calling stuff appropriate just because their comments happened to be ladened with profanities, but it's no secret that your arguments are legitimately bad and ubsustantiated takes that have no logical or narrative basis to begin with.

Is this some sort of rich joke that I am too poor to understand? Or do game dynamics not mean anything anymore?

The more you keep saying stuff like this the harder it becomes for me to actually take you seriously on the matter.

At this point I'm not sure if you're just purposefully ignoring Cory's arguments for the sake of your argument or you're just being completely clueless as to how those statements work in the first place.

Yes it is, you just like ignoring it because it does not suit your narrative.

For all the wrong reasons.

You do you I suppose. Can't be bothered explaining to a stone wall.

You have to be a person with a very high ego to reply with those things while them not even being relevant to the topic. I'm in no hurry, so I'll point out the rest I disagree:

She still hasn't done the selfless sacrifice required to achieve higher ascendence. Completely irrelevant to Athena's transformation at hand.

It's actually relevant on explaining the context of said higher ascendence, which was addressed in other points. But coming from you, I don't expect much of a response here.

That's literally Kratos' magic coming back to form. The magic isn't green like Athena herself is so that's already a dead giveaway that it doesn't have her power.

The color here has nothing to do with the argument, but the fact that Athena give the BoE ethereal properties, which is something that's linked to the fact that she herself is in a ethereal form.

I ain't the one who made the baseless claims that Athena amped the weapons to her level, you did.

Your logic fails at Occam's razor. It is you who need to bring proof that Athena didn't amped the weapon with the power given by her level of existence, in order to disprove my argument of that being a contradiction with 5D. If you are not doing so, the fewest assumptions possible is that she's not 5D, because an amped weapon by her it's not.

LMAO no, the aura covering the Blades aren't Green, they're the same aura as the flames they produce.

The green aura, which is Athena's power, comes when she makes the BoE. Them having a flaming aura has nothing to do.

Completely irrelevant to Athena's nature at hand.

Okay and? This means nothing for Athena's nature.

Already repplied to those points and explained why they matter. I'm not repeating it just for "this means nothing / irrelevant".

LMFAO no, he didn't aim to hit her, he literally swung above her head. Go frame by frame and you will see. The Blade never hits her, it goes above her head. Kratos literally did a little bit of trolling with her just to deny her payday.

You are right here, I think.

Honestly at this point this dude seems to be derailing far harder than everyone else on this thread with some of the baseless and most asinine takes I have ever seen in my entire life

And how exactly bringing counters for the thread is "derailing"? You have the right to not agree with them, but apparently you're too irritated to actually discuss them like a normal person, and decides to instantly speak ill of them because for you they are some kind of "objective" or "legitimately" bad reasonings. The fact that someone with that attitude is a staff member here is worrisome.

 

[KLOL506]

Which, again, I never said the opposite. My first comment was meant to actually counter the interpretation of it being higher dimensionality. If you can't understand that, shame.

I honestly can't even be bothered to go any further beyond this.

So saying "And surprise surprise, they aren't good enough" is "basic logic"?

If you'd actually read the prior comments you'd know. But since you have no interest to, I have no interest to entertain your claims either.

Because the argument simply counters it "working" as higher dimensionality.

Not really, no. But honestly I can't be bothered to respond to this any further since neither of us will come to an agreement here.

You have to be a person with a very high ego to reply with those things while them not even being relevant to the topic.

Ooooooh, we're jumping to name calling already on these baseless accusations?

It's actually relevant on explaining the context of said higher ascendence, which was addressed in other points. But coming from you, I don't expect much of a response here.

Already addressed this but I honestly don't see the point of going back-and-forth on this any further.

The color here has nothing to do with the argument, but the fact that Athena give the BoE ethereal properties, which is something that's linked to the fact that she herself is in a ethereal form.

LMFAO this argument again? You keep making one dumb argument after another, all of which have no logical or narrative basis. I can't. I legit can't.

Your logic fails at Occam's razor. It is you who need to bring proof that Athena didn't amped the weapon with the power given by her level of existence, in order to disprove my argument of that being a contradiction with 5D. If you are not doing so, the fewest assumptions possible is that she's not 5D, because an amped weapon by her it's not.

Fewest assumptions is that she merely fixed the weapons to a suitable level for Kratos to use against Olympus and gave them a brand new appearance. Don't overthink it too much.

But you do you I suppose. I can't be bothered to constantly keep replying to the same arguments over and over again.

The green aura, which is Athena's power, comes when she makes the BoE. Them having a flaming aura has nothing to do.

This is legit making me laugh RN because the actual fires of the Blades post-repair are red, orange and then bright yellow-orange. No Green involved. This is literally just her magic at play fixing the Blades back to an appropriate level for Kratos.

Already repplied to those points and explained why they matter. I'm not repeating it just for "this means nothing / irrelevant".

Me neither.

And how exactly bringing counters for the thread is "derailing"? You have the right to not agree with them, but apparently you're too irritated to actually discuss them like a normal person, and decides to instantly speak ill of them because for you they are some kind of "objective" or "legitimately" reasonings.

1. Your arguments are objectively bad on every single measurable level for the reasons I, Georr, Ravee and Planck have explained, especially with regards to the Blades of Exile, considering that they have little to no logical or narrative basis and are literally bordering on pure headcanon and overcomplicating things, not to mention they've been repeated multiple times and have added absolutely nothing new to the discussion at hand and are just constant bickering that doesn't even target the OP. But I honestly can't be bothered to go any further to keep talking to a stone wall.

2. Nowhere in my arguments was I mocking you, I was mocking the logic and basis behind your arguments, which I don't have to tell you, aren't exclusive to you as a person. If you take insults at things like that then I honestly don't think you should be on the wiki to begin with.

The fact that someone with that attitude is a staff member here is worrisome.

That honestly says more about you as a person than me as a staff member, if you can't take a little bit of profanity that wasn't even aimed at you in the first place, then this is prolly not the best place for you.

 

[KLOL506]

At this point, your arguments are whatever, neither of us are going to come to an agreement and this back-and-forth is getting incredibly tiresome with absolutely nothing new being added to the table, and I can't be bothered to constantly respond to the same arguments over and over again. I'd suggest we stop it while we still can and move on, and wait for other staff to give their thoughts on this, or we can just wait it out until grace is over because we have enough staff approval as is versus the disagreements and neutralities.

However, if you keep pushing further with this bickering and derailment, I will be forced to tag thread mods to respond accordingly.

 

[Nostredam]

Yeah, that was what I've thought. I created this account two weeks ago to politely discuss with some people, but it looks like this wiki is as bad as outsiders claim to be. Not only a proper discussion can't be made because of extremely arrogant users like you, but the other people here actually care more about the thread being accepted instead of analyzing the arguments for each side, which is why the person who made this CRT didn't even bothered to reply me. I can't say I wasn't expecting that, though, because someone like you (KLOL506) did something very similar with other guy, when the latter argued against the ratings on Devil May Cry here, and you repplied him with that:

Yeah, because intimidating and threatening those who dare to question things here is certainly the right way to do things ... I actually think that the only reason you are not acting like a vermin here as much as you did in the above screenshot is because you don't want to lose your position as a staff member; which already speaks much of how deplorable your attitude (which may resemble your personality in real life) is.

I'll not participate anymore here. The credibility from this wiki is as low as others described it. Don't expect anymore repplies, because I will not associate myself any further with this Battleboard Circlejerking.

 

[Planck69]

@Nostredam So should I include your vote or not?

 

[Georredannea15]

Your logic fails at Occam's razor. It is you who need to bring proof that Athena didn't amped the weapon with the power given by her level of existence, in order to disprove my argument of that being a contradiction with 5D. If you are not doing so, the fewest assumptions possible is that she's not 5D, because an amped weapon by her it's not.

We've already rotted it. BoE was never able to interact with or harm Athena. Never. We have support from the verse. But you need to support your counter-argument with concrete evidence. Just like us. Otherwise, all of these arguments are up in the air and lose their importance.

 

[Ped2018]

Yeah, that was what I've thought. I created this account two weeks ago to politely discuss with some people, but it looks like this wiki is as bad as outsiders claim to be. Not only a proper discussion can't be made because of extremely arrogant users like you, but the other people here actually care more about the thread being accepted instead of analyzing the arguments for each side, which is why the person who made this CRT didn't even bothered to reply me. I can't say I wasn't expecting that, though, because someone like you (KLOL506) did something very similar with other guy, when the latter argued against the ratings on Devil May Cry here, and you repplied him with that:

Yeah, because intimidating and threatening those who dare to question things here is certainly the right way to do things ... I actually think that the only reason you are not acting like a vermin here as much as you did in the above screenshot is because you don't want to lose your position as a staff member; which already speaks much of how deplorable your attitude (which may resemble your personality in real life) is.

I'll not participate anymore here. The credibility from this wiki is as low as others described it. Don't expect anymore repplies, because I will not associate myself any further with this Battleboard Circlejerking.

Ok, but nobody here is going to baby you, this is a battleboard forum, IT'S GOING TO GET HEATED.

 

[Georredannea15]

Yeah, that was what I've thought. I created this account two weeks ago to politely discuss with some people, but it looks like this wiki is as bad as outsiders claim to be. Not only a proper discussion can't be made because of extremely arrogant users like you, but the other people here actually care more about the thread being accepted instead of analyzing the arguments for each side, which is why the person who made this CRT didn't even bothered to reply me. I can't say I wasn't expecting that, though, because someone like you (KLOL506) did something very similar with other guy, when the latter argued against the ratings on Devil May Cry here, and you repplied him with that:

Yeah, because intimidating and threatening those who dare to question things here is certainly the right way to do things ... I actually think that the only reason you are not acting like a vermin here as much as you did in the above screenshot is because you don't want to lose your position as a staff member; which already speaks much of how deplorable your attitude (which may resemble your personality in real life) is.

I'll not participate anymore here. The credibility from this wiki is as low as others described it. Don't expect anymore repplies, because I will not associate myself any further with this Battleboard Circlejerking.

This is because you insistently assert that the same arguments that have been refuted are true. And when we don't agree with it, we become "bad" people...

If an argument is rotten, you cannot make it valid without using a different way and presenting it from concrete proves.

Note: Topics that have been widely discussed and accepted before cannot be discussed on other topics. That would be derailment, which is against the wiki.

Anyway... I'm going to sleep.

 

[Diamentus]

This is because you insistently assert that the same arguments that have been refuted are true. And when we don't agree with it, we become "bad" people...

If an argument is rotten, you cannot make it valid without using a different way and presenting it from concrete commands.

Note: Topics that have been widely discussed and accepted before cannot be discussed on other topics. That would be derailment, which is against the wiki.

Anyway... I'm going to sleep.

Good night good sir, TD shall be next mashallah

 

[KLOL506]

Yeah, that was what I've thought. I created this account two weeks ago to politely discuss with some people, but it looks like this wiki is as bad as outsiders claim to be. Not only a proper discussion can't be made because of extremely arrogant users like you, but the other people here actually care more about the thread being accepted instead of analyzing the arguments for each side, which is why the person who made this CRT didn't even bothered to reply me. I can't say I wasn't expecting that, though, because someone like you (KLOL506) did something very similar with other guy, when the latter argued against the ratings on Devil May Cry here, and you repplied him with that:

Yeah, because intimidating and threatening those who dare to question things here is certainly the right way to do things ... I actually think that the only reason you are not acting like a vermin here as much as you did in the above screenshot is because you don't want to lose your position as a staff member; which already speaks much of how deplorable your attitude (which may resemble your personality in real life) is.

I'll not participate anymore here. The credibility from this wiki is as low as others described it. Don't expect anymore repplies, because I will not associate myself any further with this Battleboard Circlejerking.

Good that you don't see me in a favorable light and I don't view you or the guy I responded to eons ago in a favorable light either, but my points still stand that both of you made horrible arguments. If you would now be so kind as to take that drama and leave the thread without causing anymore chaos, you'd do us all a massive favor.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I agree with what I’m seeing (I read all 6 pages and I’m annoyed on how many people were ignoring why the HDE scales to AP)

 

[KLOL506]

I agree with what I’m seeing (I read all 6 pages and I’m annoyed on how many people were ignoring why the HDE scales to AP)

Splendid! Another vote to the list.

 

[Ped2018]

Ah, since you're counting the vote of blue names, then i agree also.

 

[KLOL506]

Ah, since you're counting the vote of blue names, then i agree also.

Didn't you already agree? LOL, not to worry, your name's already on the vote list.

Not like my name or the other blue names, or the yellow names will be taken into account for the vote process unfortunately but oh well.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

That means your AP doesn't scale, but what about durability?

I just watched the end of GOW 3, and yes, Fear Zeus couldn't do anything against Hope Kratos. But like, Hope Kratos landed nearly 10 Fear Zeus strikes (or more) before he backed off. Why not scale for durability?

From a storytelling standpoint, it would be pretty unsatisfying if Zeus was instantly vaporized by a single punch. He survives a handful of punches simply because the devs wanna put on a good show, not because his dura actually scales. Also being bloodlusted doesn't automatically mean Kratos is gonna always be going for the quickest kill, especially when his victory is assured. He pretty much spent the entirety of GoW3 bloodlusted but was still taking time to sadistically brutalize his enemies when his victory was assured

 

[Planck69]

The Fear Zeus issue is the same as how Draugr take more than one hit, even with novelization of the 2018 game confirming that he oneshots everything from Wulvers to Draugr to Dark Elves and even Mattugr Helson and Magni.

It's a gameplay showcase for drama's sake and player satisfaction. The fact that the moment it goes to cutscene, one punch from Kratos dissipates Fear from Zeus' body says as much.

 

[TheGod]

Yeah no I'm just gonna be blunt and firm, there is literally nothing in the narrative that indicates as such. Cory verbatim puts her above everyone else and calls her arc by far the most important one in all of GoW3.

make every greek and norse god Low 1C or no

 

[Gasper]

make every greek and norse god Low 1C or no

Bruh

 

[SheevShezarrine]

make every greek and norse god Low 1C or no

Huh?

 

[Robo432343]

Hold on

Doesn't Athena need to create/affect/destroy Low 1-C structures to get Low 1-C AP??

 

[Gasper]

Hold on

Doesn't Athena need to create/affect/destroy Low 1-C structures to get Low 1-C AP??

She has the power on the level of her existence. She dosen't just exist there.

 

[Planck69]

Hold on

Doesn't Athena need to create/affect/destroy Low 1-C structures to get Low 1-C AP??

No and neither does 70% of Low 1-C. Her power is raised to that level of being.

 

[Robo432343]

No and neither does 70% of Low 1-C. Her power is raised to that level of being.

I'm pretty sure most Low 1-C's have a 2-A to Low 1-C cosmology to get Low 1-C AP

i have never seen a 2-C jump to Low 1-C like that before (aside from smurfs) unless they did something significant to get there, not just get 5D HDE

 

[Gasper]

I'm pretty sure most Low 1-C's have a 2-A to Low 1-C cosmology to get Low 1-C AP

i have never seen a 2-C jump to Low 1-C like that before (aside from smurfs) unless they did something significant to get there, not just get 5D HDE

GOW does have low 1-C cosmology.
And ALOT of verses have 2-C cosmology and then jump to low 1-C. Like lord of the rings for one example.

 

[Gasper]

Thrud (God of War)

Thrúd (Old Norse: Þrúðr) is the daughter of Thor and Sif, and the younger half-sister of Magni and Modi. Tier: Low 1-C Name: Thrúd (Old Norse: Þrúðr), Thrúd Thorsdottir Origin: God of War Gender: Female Age: Possibly around her late teens (Appears to be of the same age as Atreus) Classification...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Thrud being 2-C is kinda weird for me, but eh, who am I to judge.

Would Magni and Modi scale to her?

Why?

She can hold the mjolnir.

And She threatened atreus (he wasn't trying to hurt her but still)