God of Highschool CRT Version 3! Can we get this over with already pretty please?

[Maitreya12]

I'm still against Low-Godly. Red Wings should give resurrection instead. It really doesn't make sense that Mujin would literally die to EE if he had legitimate Low-Godly. That's not how it works.

Ok. I can change it to resurrection if nobody else has any issues with that. But my question still remains on the amount of damage that should be specified for his resurrection.

 

[LordGinSama]

I definitely disagree with the Low-Godly aspect, I don't really see the feat as an EE feat rather one of Deconstruction.


I also disagree with Mori's Resistance Negation, it's not that he's bypassing Mujin's resistance but rather Mujin's resistance couldn't withstand Mori's Deconstruction for much long, ergo its more of a weakness on Mujin's end. Plus it quite literally did effect him but he reversed the effects / regenerated.

 

[Mori]

I'm still against Low-Godly. Red Wings should give resurrection instead. It really doesn't make sense that Mujin would literally die to EE if he had legitimate Low-Godly. That's not how it works.

That is why The Power Null and negation is basically on Mori sandbox. Nullifying the regen of Mubongs red wins with his karma twice. The fact that he could Regenerate twice after being erased is already enough proof of the qualification. I don't get what you're against.

 

[Maitreya12]

I definitely disagree with the Low-Godly aspect, I don't really see the feat as an EE feat rather one of Deconstruction.

The reason the feat itself should be more so existence erasure is because Mori using his karma which is carrying all of creation quite literally did just order Mujin to totally disappear from his sight which he responded with he was fading away. And even when he did finally die he straight up just faded into nothing, he wasn’t “deconstructed” in any way, he was just reduced into nothing.

I also disagree with Mori's Resistance Negation, it's not that he's bypassing Mujin's resistance but rather Mujin's resistance couldn't withstand Mori's Deconstruction for much long, ergo its more of a weakness on Mujin's end. Plus it quite literally did effect him but he reversed the effects / regenerated.

In this instance it should be that he’s bypassing Mujin’s resistance due to the fact that his resistance had been able to keep going multiple times after he was first initially erased even after Mujin had all of his power absorbed. It’s not that his resistance was weak or anything, hell Mori even believed Mujin was trying to come back to life again even after he had faded away once again, but it’s just that Mori’s karma persisted through Mujin’s resistance and that persistence remained even as they continued to fight with one another.

It was essentially a war between Mujin’s resistances continually resurrecting Mujin and Mori’s abilities continually reducing him to nothing even as he still resurrects.

 

[azontr]

I think we could list it as "Deconstruction, likely Existence Erasure" on the topic of Existence Erasure. As a compromise, since I do honestly agree that it seems less like Mujin was erased and more so deconstructed, but can also see @Maitreya's side in thinking its EE.

 

[Maitreya12]

I’m fine with that

 

[Hellscream]

, Omniscience and Omnipresence (Upon attaining Nirvana, Mori ascended to a higher plane of existence where time and space overlapped[21]. He is capable of seeing, existing, and maintaining all of creation, both past and future from this plane

How does this grant omnipresence exactly?
In chapter 570, he literally says it took him a lot of time to explore the universe and to fix it, which obviously implies that he's not omnipresent, nor does he possess omniscience, it's not like he's everywhere at the same time. He's also shown to be visually flying around the universe.

Incorporeality (His true essence exists non-physically

Don't see any reasoning for incorporeality

Regeneration (Low-Godly; Shares the same red wings as Mujin who, with it, could resurrect himself from complete existence erasure and disintegration[22] thanks to its connection to the prophets)

The regen was literally shown and stated to be limited.

Gyazo

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Acausality (Type 4; Cannot be seen in any version of the future, broke out of the karmic cycle of fate and causality. Mori exists beyond time and can appear anywhere in the timeline.

Existing in a space where time and space overlap =/= Acausality type 4 nothing here says anything about him operating on a different level of causality.

Law Manipulation (4-D - With Karma, Mori is able to command and rule over the laws of creation, even making Mujin disappear with a word.)

Don't see how that's Law manipulation "command and rule over the laws of creation" creation itself, does not mean you can manipulate it's laws unless if proven. Him making mujin disappear with a word seems more fit to be reality warping

Resistance to Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Existence Erasure, and Law Manipulation (4D - Broke out of the Karmic cycle trapping him in a fated cycle of repeating events. Making a 1 in 100 trillionth of a possibility a reality.)

Don't even see how it has anything to do with the resistances that you posted on further notice, it's literally just probability manipulation, not even a resistance of any sorts

Resistance Negation (Despite Mujin having the power to stop his existence from being erased, he could only hold it for up to 10 minutes)

It's not resistance negation, he never negated any sort of resistance Mujin was literally affected by Deconstruction, "my body has only been resurrected temporarily"

Precognition (Can see into the future[43] and observe all possible outcomes with Verdandi)

It should be noted that this is limited precognition

Gyazo

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[Hellscream]

I will go through other abilities tomorrow, but to me it seems like staff didn't properly look through the said abilities and scans tbh
A lot of the scans don't even show the full ability with a lot of stuff being cut out, and some take stuff out of context and just add abilities that weren't even shown or have nothing to do with what's being proposed

 

[Sir_Ovens]

, Omniscience and Omnipresence (Upon attaining Nirvana, Mori ascended to a higher plane of existence where time and space overlapped[21]. He is capable of seeing, existing, and maintaining all of creation, both past and future from this plane

How does this grant omnipresence exactly?
In chapter 570, he literally says it took him a lot of time to explore the universe and to fix it, which obviously implies that he's not omnipresent, nor does he possess omniscience, it's not like he's everywhere at the same time. He's also shown to be visually flying around the universe.

Incorporeality (His true essence exists non-physically

Don't see any reasoning for incorporeality

Regeneration (Low-Godly; Shares the same red wings as Mujin who, with it, could resurrect himself from complete existence erasure and disintegration[22] thanks to its connection to the prophets)

The regen was literally shown and stated to be limited.

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Acausality (Type 4; Cannot be seen in any version of the future, broke out of the karmic cycle of fate and causality. Mori exists beyond time and can appear anywhere in the timeline.

Existing in a space where time and space overlap =/= Acausality type 4 nothing here says anything about him operating on a different level of causality.

Law Manipulation (4-D - With Karma, Mori is able to command and rule over the laws of creation, even making Mujin disappear with a word.)

Don't see how that's Law manipulation "command and rule over the laws of creation" creation itself, does not mean you can manipulate it's laws unless if proven. Him making mujin disappear with a word seems more fit to be reality warping

Resistance to Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Existence Erasure, and Law Manipulation (4D - Broke out of the Karmic cycle trapping him in a fated cycle of repeating events. Making a 1 in 100 trillionth of a possibility a reality.)

Don't even see how it has anything to do with the resistances that you posted on further notice, it's literally just probability manipulation, not even a resistance of any sorts

Resistance Negation (Despite Mujin having the power to stop his existence from being erased, he could only hold it for up to 10 minutes)

It's not resistance negation, he never negated any sort of resistance Mujin was literally affected by Deconstruction, "my body has only been resurrected temporarily"

Precognition (Can see into the future[43] and observe all possible outcomes with Verdandi)

It should be noted that this is limited precognition

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This sums up most of my concerns sans the omnipresence bit.

Mori is genuinely omnipresent, the form we see him in when he fights Mujin and at the end is only a small portion of his true size.

 

[Hellscream]

This sums up most of my concerns sans the omnipresence bit.

Mori is genuinely omnipresent, the form we see him in when he fights Mujin and at the end is only a small portion of his true size.

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I literally don't see anything that comes even remotely close to making him omnipresent
Why would he need to leave his gf and all his friends and shit behind, to "save the universe" if he's omnipresent?
and statements of him having to go "away for a long time" and him being shown to visually be leaving earth

 

[Megaraptor149]

Actually, if you use a translation from raw rather than a webtoon directly, it will be clear that it fits as stated in the justification for the sandbox profile

 

[Hellscream]

Actually, if you use a translation from raw rather than a webtoon directly, it will be clear that it fits as stated in the justification for the sandbox profile

Crazy argument bro, except for that the stuff that's being shown is taken out of context and even with what's being shown it's still not omnipresence, and chapter 570 isn't even being shown, which is where he's actually on earth or wherever that is, talking to his gf that he's going to be away for a long time to save the universe and is visually shown to be leaving it.

 

[Megaraptor149]

How does this grant omnipresence exactly?
In chapter 570, he literally says it took him a lot of time to explore the universe and to fix it, which obviously implies that he's not omnipresent, nor does he possess omniscience, it's not like he's everywhere at the same time. He's also shown to be visually flying around the universe.

Don't see any reasoning for incorporeality

The regen was literally shown and stated to be limited.

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Existing in a space where time and space overlap =/= Acausality type 4 nothing here says anything about him operating on a different level of causality.

Don't see how that's Law manipulation "command and rule over the laws of creation" creation itself, does not mean you can manipulate it's laws unless if proven. Him making mujin disappear with a word seems more fit to be reality warping

Don't even see how it has anything to do with the resistances that you posted on further notice, it's literally just probability manipulation, not even a resistance of any sorts

It's not resistance negation, he never negated any sort of resistance Mujin was literally affected by Deconstruction, "my body has only been resurrected temporarily"

It should be noted that this is limited precognition

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It's should be Multilocation rather than Omnipresence

In use raw its say, he balanced the universe as powerful and absolute spirit.

Agree for that, but the main reason for me for Acausality Type 4 is he Freed from the karmic cycle which is related of cause and effect stuff.

Agree, Reality Warping and Creation stuff.

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Yes

 

[Megaraptor149]

Crazy argument bro, except for that the stuff that's being shown is taken out of context and even with what's being shown it's still not omnipresence, and chapter 570 isn't even being shown, which is where he's actually on earth or wherever that is, talking to his gf that he's going to be away for a long time to save the universe and is visually shown to be leaving it.

Im not even arguing for that

 

[Maitreya12]

, Omniscience and Omnipresence (Upon attaining Nirvana, Mori ascended to a higher plane of existence where time and space overlapped[21]. He is capable of seeing, existing, and maintaining all of creation, both past and future from this plane

How does this grant omnipresence exactly?
In chapter 570, he literally says it took him a lot of time to explore the universe and to fix it, which obviously implies that he's not omnipresent, nor does he possess omniscience, it's not like he's everywhere at the same time. He's also shown to be visually flying around the universe.

This is because he’s not in Nirvana. He has to physically do things with his physical body. To be in the Nirvana realm he needed to have relinquished his physical body and become a spirit in Nirvana. He refused that and decided to keep his body and so he’s not omniscient and omnipresent there. Only when he’s existing as a spirit in Nirvana.

It’s mentioned how if he was in Nirvana doing these things he would fix the issues that Mori is currently dealing with like the universe’s expansion everywhere and restore the cracks between the dimensions in the universe. But because he actually remained in the physical world with his body he has to manually do everything and thus not making him omnipresent there.

Incorporeality (His true essence exists non-physically

Don't see any reasoning for incorporeality

“Only those who have reached Nirvana can come here. All your tiers would be cut. Now will you balance the universe as a spirit and all powerful being.”

Just as said, he’s existing as a non-physical spirit in Nirvana. He doesn’t have any corporeal sense to him. Similarly to how Xuangzang and the others show up in front of Mori as simply spirits of the dead.

Regeneration (Low-Godly; Shares the same red wings as Mujin who, with it, could resurrect himself from complete existence erasure and disintegration[22] thanks to its connection to the prophets)

The regen was literally shown to be limited.

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Restoring one’s body multiple times, even from total disintegration after suffering through further power absorption is only “limited” here?

Anyways, this is being changed to resurrection instead of regeneration.

Acausality (Type 4; Cannot be seen in any version of the future, broke out of the karmic cycle of fate and causality. Mori exists beyond time and can appear anywhere in the timeline.

Existing in a space where time and space overlap =/= Acausality type 4 nothing here says anything about him operating on a different level of causality.

This is also more so from both Dean’s inability to see into the future of supreme gods or different versions of them like shown against Q and from Mori’s breaking of the karmic cycle and samsara which is a cause and effect cycle of repeating events that was induced upon Mori.

Law Manipulation (4-D - With Karma, Mori is able to command and rule over the laws of creation, even making Mujin disappear with a word.)

Don't see how that's Law manipulation "command and rule over the laws of creation" creation itself, does not mean you can manipulate it's laws unless if proven. Him making mujin disappear with a word seems more fit to be reality warping

In this instance it would be more akin to law manipulation rather than reality warping as Mori is using his power of commanding and ruling over the laws of creation to actually just order things back to what they once were. It wasn’t so much that he “warped” anything around him to his fitting, more that he used his Karma which governs reality to command the things back into place regardless of it completely defies the order of things. Which goes in line with him ordering Mujin be disappear from his sight instead of him “reality warping” Mujin to fade away from him.

Resistance Negation (Despite Mujin having the power to stop his existence from being erased, he could only hold it for up to 10 minutes)

It's not resistance negation, he never negated any sort of resistance Mujin was literally affected by Deconstruction, "my body has only been resurrected temporarily"

Again this was after Mujin had already rejected Mori’s karma once and then immediately after had his power absorbed. And he was still able to be revived from total disintegration with the red wings continuing to push him in escaping death.

Precognition (Can see into the future[43] and observe all possible outcomes with Verdandi)

It should be noted that this is limited precognition

1) This wouldn’t be listed as a limited precognition and 2) this was a much much earlier version of Dean. Later on he improves and evolves drastically where he’s capable of seeing all versions of the future at once.

It’s also noted that prophets who reach Nirvana such as Xuangzang also oversee the future as well as the past and present too.

Resistance to Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Existence Erasure, and Law Manipulation (4D - Broke out of the Karmic cycle trapping him in a fated cycle of repeating events. Making a 1 in 100 trillionth of a possibility a reality.)

Don't even see how it has anything to do with the resistances that you posted on further notice, it's literally just probability manipulation, not even a resistance of any sorts

Him breaking out of and ending the karmic cycle and the chain of samsara is what garners him the resistances to these things as the karmic cycle and chain of samsara itself are a never ending cycle of repeating events that was induced upon Mori. Literally everything Mori had been through was all simply set up for him through the Buddha’s karma cycle, which Karma being the very thing governing the laws over all creation.

 

[Hellscream]

1) he literally said that he picked both options in heaven, and was only shown to interact with one place at a time at any point

2) Yet again, he literally stated he picked both options, and even then with the same argument you provided, he never discarded his body

3) good enough

4) resistance against precognition doesn't prove acausality type 4, it's just resistance. nothing you showed provided any proof of an irregular causality system.

5) Don't see any proof of law manipultion still, you've just shown that he turned time back a bit in order to reverse something.

6) None of this grants resistance negation, it's literally just resurrection..

7) good enough

8) Just read your own screenshot, i don't see any resistance at all. he literally stated he's making a 0.0000000000001% probability a reality.

The ability to alter probability, allowing one to make the unlikely more likely to occur, and vice versa.

This can take effect in a variety of different ways; it may appear as just supernatural luck, or can be more actively used for defense to make attacks inexplicably miss - and in the same way, it can be used to make sure attacks always hit. At a high level, it can be used to make things that would be completely impossible otherwise certainties. Due to the many potential applications of such an ability, it is exceptionally versatile and its capabilities should be judged on a case by case basis. On a greater scale, it can be used to manipulate quantum probability and can reach the level of powerful Reality Warping.

 

[Yeolban]

1) he literally said that he picked both options in heaven, and was only shown to interact with one place at a time at any point

2) Yet again, he literally stated he picked both options, and even then with the same argument you provided, he never discarded his body

Ah, I'd like to add something here: It's a translation ****-up again. As far as I can remember, in the korean scans he said "Yes. I will do both. I want to be happy with everyone else while keeping my power. I've been struggling up until now, so now I can feel a little bit of happiness, right? I'm going to enjoy life with everyone to my heart's content, and when I want to, I'll come to this place!"

But I'll have to reread and retranslate to confirm, since it's been a good while.

 

[Yeolban]

I have retranslated yippee

TL Note: the word "world" here is with the meaning of "mundane world".

"I will keep my power while living happily in the world. Even though I was suffering until now, is it unreasonable for me to just be a little happy now? Enjoying my life as much as I wish to, and leaving when I want to."

+ Throughout the last 3 chapters of the epilogue, Mori explains that the cracked universe situation is worsening, and when is asked of how much time he's going to leave for this time, he avoids the question or replies "a very long time". It's only Mira and Daewi who are perceptive enough and reply with "we're not going to see you again, are we" to which Mori does not reply.

mama it's 1 am it's time for me to go to sleep~~

 

[Slenderblak]

?????? so what's going on? upgrade or no?

 

[Maitreya12]

Ok so big thanks to @karma for clarifying that.

So let me be clear here pertaining to Mori’s abilities:

Mori’s omnipresence ability is from him being in the Nirvana plane which allows him to oversee all of creation and appear anywhere in the timeline. His physical body can be existing in the real world while his spiritual form is simultaneously in Nirvana watching over the plane from above.

Mori’s resistances to fate manipulation and Acausality type 4 is through his breaking of the karmic cycle which is a cycle of fated repeating events of cause and effect that Tathagata induced upon reality. Literally everything Mori had experienced up until that point was due to Buddha’s manipulation of the karmic cycle. And Mori breaking out of that and ending it is what grants him these resistances since he broke out and ended the cycle of fate and causality itself.

Mori’s resistance negation I already clarified before but this is from Mujin directly resisting Mori’s abilities from his rejection of his karma but Mori’s karma still persisted against Mujin’s resistance so his body continued to disintegrate which remained even after Mujin had his body restored a second time because of Mori’s abilities. Making his resistance null once more.

And Mori’s law manipulation comes from his control over karma being the power to rule all of creation and Mori showcasing abilities of “ordering” things back to what they once were or other such instances like Mori ordering Mujin to disappear from his sight showing the ability to be more akin to law manipulation rather than reality warping.

I think those are the abilities brought into question. So far. Thoughts and evaluations are greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

 

[Lugh_Tuathe_Dé]

Bump

 

[Megaraptor149]

Man, this CRT need more recognition

 

[Ped2018]

Fr, the verse need this BADLY, can y'all just accept this so this could just be applied already

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I can't just accept things that are blatantly not true on the profiles.

 

[azontr]

Nobody's asking you to you poopyhead

Their prolly just joking cause of memes and shit and how many CRTs there have been.

 

[Maitreya12]

I can't just accept things that are blatantly not true on the profiles.

Ovens please we need this story to come to a close .

Which other abilities do you still have issues with on the profile? I know we’re changing the regeneration to resurrection so we already have that sorted out but which other things do you not accept on the profile.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The immeasurable LS. If you remove that I think I'll have no further issues.

 

[Maitreya12]

The immeasurable LS. If you remove that I think I'll have no further issues.

Ok.

 

[Megaraptor149]

Just do what Ovens tells to do, if want this CRT to finish quickly

 

[Maitreya12]

Already on it

 

[Megaraptor149]

Already on it

I know you tired debate until 10 pages for 2 CRT

 

[Maitreya12]

debate until 10 pages for 2 CRT

 

[Maitreya12]

Ok all necessary changes have been made to the sandboxes.

Is there any more further input from staff or can I safely say I have two official agreements now?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I'm good with everything.

 

[Megaraptor149]

Now, need one staff agreement

 

[Hellscream]

Ok so big thanks to @karma for clarifying that.

So let me be clear here pertaining to Mori’s abilities:

Mori’s omnipresence ability is from him being in the Nirvana plane which allows him to oversee all of creation and appear anywhere in the timeline. His physical body can be existing in the real world while his spiritual form is simultaneously in Nirvana watching over the plane from above.

Mori’s resistances to fate manipulation and Acausality type 4 is through his breaking of the karmic cycle which is a cycle of fated repeating events of cause and effect that Tathagata induced upon reality. Literally everything Mori had experienced up until that point was due to Buddha’s manipulation of the karmic cycle. And Mori breaking out of that and ending it is what grants him these resistances since he broke out and ended the cycle of fate and causality itself.

Mori’s resistance negation I already clarified before but this is from Mujin directly resisting Mori’s abilities from his rejection of his karma but Mori’s karma still persisted against Mujin’s resistance so his body continued to disintegrate which remained even after Mujin had his body restored a second time because of Mori’s abilities. Making his resistance null once more.

And Mori’s law manipulation comes from his control over karma being the power to rule all of creation and Mori showcasing abilities of “ordering” things back to what they once were or other such instances like Mori ordering Mujin to disappear from his sight showing the ability to be more akin to law manipulation rather than reality warping.

I think those are the abilities brought into question. So far. Thoughts and evaluations are greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

Yeah, that doesn't make him omnipresent though?
It was literally only shown to have him appear in the yellow board he was holding, which implies he can only be at one point in time at once, and the fact with what happened when he left the earth in order to save the universe, and was physically exploring the universe, even if he was omnipresent for a single second, he wouldn't have to take time to explore the universe like was said, this is just multilocation

He didn't show to resist anything, he literally said in the screenshot that was posted that it was considered a miracle of a mircle, and that he only had a 1 in a 100 trillion chance of doing so, that's clear cut probability manipulation..

He never resisted it it literally says clear cut that he was resurrected. he was affected and his body was passively being deconstructed. Those beings / ghosts or whatever were the ones that were keeping his body alive which was stated on the last few parts of the fight

ruling all of creation doesn't give you law manipulation, that's just creation nothing more
Not all beings with creation get conceptual manipulation / law manipulation and all the other stuff.
You need specific cases of laws being created, and concepts being manipulated in order to get them.

 

[Maitreya12]

Bump. Also

Yeah, that doesn't make him omnipresent though?
It was literally only shown to have him appear in the yellow board he was holding, which implies he can only be at one point in time at once, and the fact with what happened when he left the earth in order to save the universe, and was physically exploring the universe, even if he was omnipresent for a single second, he wouldn't have to take time to explore the universe like was said, this is just multilocation

Again Mori being physically in the universe isn’t him being omnipresent. Only when he’s in the Nirvana plane which he gave up to be in for the time being to spend time with his family.

He didn't show to resist anything, he literally said in the screenshot that was posted that it was considered a miracle of a mircle, and that he only had a 1 in a 100 trillion chance of doing so, that's clear cut probability manipulation..

It quite literally says that everything Mori experienced was due to the karmic cycle placed upon him by Tathagata. The karmic cycle by definition is a cycle of fated repeating events. Mori ending the karmic cycle means he broke out the cycle of karmic cause and effect itself.

He never resisted it it literally says clear cut that he was resurrected. he was affected and his body was passively being deconstructed. Those beings / ghosts or whatever were the ones that were keeping his body alive which was stated on the last few parts of the fight

It literally says right here that Mujin directly rejected Mori’s karma from making him fade away into nothing. The resurrection was the second time around he had resisted being disintegrated even after he had all of his powers absorbed.

ruling all of creation doesn't give you law manipulation, that's just creation nothing more
Not all beings with creation get conceptual manipulation / law manipulation and all the other stuff.
You need specific cases of laws being created, and concepts being manipulated in order to get them.

The specific uses of Mori ordering things back into place seems to fit more under law manipulation which seems to be agreed upon by other staff. Law manipulation can be similar in nature to reality warping as is said on the law manipulations page, but that doesn’t make it a disqualifying criteria for it.

Even still law manipulation has been directly demonstrated before with Mujin breaking a binding oath induced upon reality as the supreme god so regardless law manipulation would stick around anyway.

 

[Mori]

Just do what Ovens tells to do, if want this CRT to finish quickly

Tch.

 

[Megaraptor149]

I guess @Sir_Ovens and @Duedate8898 already fine with this, so need one more staff to input for upgrade

 

[Hellscream]

Bump. Also



Again Mori being physically in the universe isn’t him being omnipresent. Only when he’s in the Nirvana plane which he gave up to be in for the time being to spend time with his family.

It quite literally says that everything Mori experienced was due to the karmic cycle placed upon him by Tathagata. The karmic cycle by definition is a cycle of fated repeating events. Mori ending the karmic cycle means he broke out the cycle of karmic cause and effect itself.

It literally says right here that Mujin directly rejected Mori’s karma from making him fade away into nothing. The resurrection was the second time around he had resisted being disintegrated even after he had all of his powers absorbed.

The specific uses of Mori ordering things back into place seems to fit more under law manipulation which seems to be agreed upon by other staff. Law manipulation can be similar in nature to reality warping as is said on the law manipulations page, but that doesn’t make it a disqualifying criteria for it.

Even still law manipulation has been directly demonstrated before with Mujin breaking a binding oath induced upon reality as the supreme god so regardless law manipulation would stick around anyway.

Im talking about when he was in heaven itself, when he was interacting with the yellow tablets.
He was only shown to be able to interact with one place at a time. and was only shown to cast a single avatar. there's 0 indication about omnipresence
and no proof to back it up at all
"I will keep my power while living happily in the world. Even though I was suffering until now, is it unreasonable for me to just be a little happy now? Enjoying my life as much as I wish to, and leaving when I want to."
This literally says he never discarded that power, when he said he wanted both


Yeah and breaking out of that cycle of repeating events has a 1 in a 100trillionth chance of happening.
Which is like i said the definition of probability manipulation, he didn't break out by resisting anything, he literally says black on white that it's a chance based probability to break out of.


Okay, it literally says he was being protected by an external force, those ghosts or figures whatever that were shown literally kept his body alive, how is this resistance of any sorts? he's permanently shown to be crumbling / disintegrating they simply healed his body and even after healing him

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This happens, where he's yet again shown to crumble

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"those wings are rejecting the power of my karma > proceeds to be passively disintegrated

Don't see how that supports 4-D law manipulation it's just a contract, which is an ability of itself