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Goblin Slayer vs Arthur Morgan
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I feel like you're downplaying the piercing strength of a bullet very hard here.DMUA said:
A bullet that has 9-B levels of energy would rip through 9-B plate armor like it was nothing.
And no, Goblin Slayer's feats don't beat what happens in real life. A bullet with 9-B levels of energy could easily rip through something along the lines of a tank. It's because the energy is focused on one narrow point as opposed to a flat area like the feat you're bringing up.
Hell, the bullets in real life that fodderize plate armor? They're 9-C.
Considering we don't see Goblin Slayer take bullets from 9-B characters we shouldn't assume he magically will "because fiction".
Not everything is an energy numbers game.
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I still just don't agree witht he match at all, it feels too one sided.
I'll just remain around and see hot it ends.
I'll just remain around and see hot it ends.
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DMUA, I agree you may be underestimating a bit too much the difference in effect when the energy is concentrated in a small enough area.
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RDR2 doesn't follow real life, in the game you can literally blow up heads with a shotgun in one go, leaving nothing of the head behind. Pistols can do it with multiple shots. In the first heist mission, Arthur penetrates the train's doors and creates holes larg enough to jam dynamite sticks fully inside, and the dynamite does its own thing.DMUA said:
You can check out Skallagrim's video and the quora threads for the plate thing. Plate armor is not at all made for modern-day guns. At all. Normal handguns will badly dent plate, if not penetrate it, which is still, safe to say, devastating to boot.
If a 50 BMG round carrying a force of 18 kJ ripping apart a tree that takes Small Building levels of blunt force to take down is anything to say, then it'll be pretty apparent that Gobbo's armor won't be upto the mark.
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The 1800s didn't have a guy who can casually grapple with fully-grown bears and tank shotgun blasts, but who am I to judge. His guns are 9-B, make a CRT if you aren't satisfied.DMUA said:
Guns from centuries before the 1800s could do it.
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Refer to my previous comment.
Two words: Muzzle. Velocity. Also lighter/smaller does not equal worse. It's actually far better as it transfers the energy to an even smaller area of the armor.
Two words: Muzzle. Velocity. Also lighter/smaller does not equal worse. It's actually far better as it transfers the energy to an even smaller area of the armor.
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And the explosive rifle can literally destroy a human body into pieces easily.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
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No, I mean, the Explosive Rifle can literally one shot obliterate a cow or horse into guts and red mist.
That's certainly not 1899 firepower in a single rifle.
That's certainly not 1899 firepower in a single rifle.
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Oh wait, explosive rifle from RDR, not 2.
Kids, this is why we don't multitask at night.
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Also btw this is speed unequal guys lol so GB have some chance with his supersonic+ reaction
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it's reaction speed though not his natural speed they can still fight close combat or arthur can just use shotgun in close combatKLOL506 said:
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Yeehaw boi for reasons above
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Actually, yes. As it's starting at hundreds of meters, GS has a chance to evade the bullets at all, but that doesn't mean any won't hit him. He still has to get close to the guy with dynamite and molotovs as well.
This is why I said speed unequal would be much fairer, otherwise Gobbo is dead with a bullet to his whatever before he can get in range.
This is why I said speed unequal would be much fairer, otherwise Gobbo is dead with a bullet to his whatever before he can get in range.
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What ups count vote?
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Um... couldn't the "blunt force equivalent" at least be mentioned on the pages of weapons? It's very hard to know who you can damage without some sort of standard for that even though we know that cutting and piercing weapons can damage beings far above their energy output.KLOL506 said:
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Arthur but not the one from the cartoon FRA
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We have about 4 votes for Othur and likely 1 (or 2) for I see and 1 Incon
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Arthur stomps. I love Goblin slayer but arthur has the advantage with his guns and deadeye. GS armor isnt blocking any bullets either.
The only way GS is taking this fight is if he starts off within like 2 feet of Arthur or if he has the gate scroll which COULD make this a stomp, but i believe theres still room to argue that Arthur can quickdraw GS under both of these scenarios.
The only way GS is taking this fight is if he starts off within like 2 feet of Arthur or if he has the gate scroll which COULD make this a stomp, but i believe theres still room to argue that Arthur can quickdraw GS under both of these scenarios.
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No, you're misunderstanding the tree calc, the value only applies if you destroy the entire volume of a large tree, just doing a small hole like that doesn't come close to the same level of energy.
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Blunt force is good against plate as opposed to slashing not because it actually damages the plate. It can just break the bones and hurt the organs of people wearing plane regardless, because force permeates. The armor itself is fine.
Note how the Advent of muskets caused plate to be abandoned, and how yes 9-C guns will punch through it. Anti tank rifles which are 9-B can shoot through parts of tank armor, and trees, so if Arthur is comparable to that with his guns, he should be able to punch through even strong plate.
Note how the Advent of muskets caused plate to be abandoned, and how yes 9-C guns will punch through it. Anti tank rifles which are 9-B can shoot through parts of tank armor, and trees, so if Arthur is comparable to that with his guns, he should be able to punch through even strong plate.
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