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Sure, what feats does "new Joe" have?
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Glass Joe vs Dan Hibiki (G R A C E)
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The now Joe who never really won a match? Yeah sure buddy.
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Fighting with the Mac who has already canonically Beat The other boxers, Can stand in one on one combat, react, dodge, and counter his attacks. Even the star punch, as well improving his Strategy and fighting style while protecting his weakspot. Can win a fight canonically with Mac, and even supported by the fact in the canon ending, Mac does have to lose 3 times before he retires and the game ends officially.
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He won a match once by accident.
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So... his only feat is being in a world circuit in which he utterly fails to do much and we never see him win a match, and he does nothing that would imply great skill?
Not very convincing.
Not very convincing.
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Tyson has fought bums before. Guess those bums are on his level now.
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Being in that world circuit. Aka the worlds best fighters. Hmm. Somehow just being in the world circuit of the best fighters around isn't impressive. Nah. Even though the world circuit is saved only for the best, and even though he can actually win; and supported by Mac officially losing end series when he retires. None of that supports skill
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I think he's trying to say that every punch out character is on par with each other
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I'm not. Your putting words in my mouth. My point is he is a world circuit fighter by the end of the game. He is in the circuit of the worlds best. He still is under the other boxers. But he Quite literally is in a circuit of the best fighters in the world. All of them trained after losing and came back far better than before to the point of being able to fight in the world circuit
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Terrible boxer with a horrendous record vs a martial artist who trained under Gouken.
Hmm, this is tough.
Hmm, this is tough.
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Wasn't Dan rejected from being a student of Gouken?
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GojiBoyForever said:
Yea. Put it like that. Ignore what actually happens in game. Dan literally gets kicked out by him
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What? Joe losing 99 times?
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Iirc he was let him but got kicked out eventually.DarkDragonMedeus said:
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You continue to attack his Past. You keep looking at it like "Oh. Well he loss 99 times." despite the fact all boxers literally improve in extreme amounts by the end of the game. I'm looking at Joe At the end of the game. Not at the start.
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And that does what about the fact he isn't skilled and cant fight? Come on man. Its Glass Joe. Give me evidence that he improved in skill.
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Ok. So. I can't say "oh come on. It's Hercule satan"
That doesn't negate the facts suddenly
When the end of the game comes. All the boxers train. All the boxers improve, glass Joe makes it to the world circuit and fights Mac, that's a serious improvement
That doesn't negate the facts suddenly
When the end of the game comes. All the boxers train. All the boxers improve, glass Joe makes it to the world circuit and fights Mac, that's a serious improvement
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He doesn't train though. He literally just gets head gear. That's the only difference.
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still makes it to the world circuit. A circuit that will only allow the best to show up. Still fights with Mac. Still gives a challenge. Still can counter his attacks
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Wrong, cause his fighting style and strategy changesGojiBoyForever said:
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I'd also like to note that Glass Joe can barely put up a fight in boxing (his most experiencd fighting form), so what good is he gonna do against Dan's Saikou Arts? This might sound ridiculous, but it's literally a fighting style that does not exist whatso ever in the Punch-Out!! universe. I doubt Joe can counter it.
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I mean, Gouken rejected him for not wanting his teachings to be used for selfish purposes such as vengeance. Though, Ken and Ryu were both basically saying that he sucks at fighting so he got kicked out anyway.
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What challenge did Joe give? Please I would happy to have this evidence.
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What good is Dams martial arts gonna do? It may not exist on punch out, but Joe just has to react to his attacks and counter. Which Joe knows how to do. He reacts to a much more skilled person.
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Fighrs Mac but is still beat, and still has literally no other feats besides fighting Mac and losing, and is still regarded as the weakest of all opponents.
Take a look at Dan's moveset. All sorts of punches, elbow strikes, knee strikes, low, middle and extremely high kicks, throws, he can even kick 2 times easy before touching the ground. When he isn't battling the main characters far above any normal human being by pure stats and prowess? He does surprisingly well.
There's laughably little backing Joe being on that level, so... Again, far from convinced.
Take a look at Dan's moveset. All sorts of punches, elbow strikes, knee strikes, low, middle and extremely high kicks, throws, he can even kick 2 times easy before touching the ground. When he isn't battling the main characters far above any normal human being by pure stats and prowess? He does surprisingly well.
There's laughably little backing Joe being on that level, so... Again, far from convinced.
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The fact he can react and dodge Macs punches, can block them more often and can even avoid the star punch. Making the fight much more challenging than before.GojiBoyForever said:
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>Counter attacks
>In game Joe sits there and gets punched
yeah sure buddy.
>In game Joe sits there and gets punched
yeah sure buddy.
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GojiBoyForever said:
Oh yea. Look at the original fight and completely ignore later fights. Continue studying his past rather than the now
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I have played his later fights, not much different.
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Blocks more Avoids attacks more Can literally dodge the star punch
Yea. Totally doesn't happen (PS. It does)
Yea. Totally doesn't happen (PS. It does)
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He can block and avoid the attack strategy coming from the actual world champion. Dan can block and avoid attacks. But not to someone of that degree in skill.
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Just watched his fight. Taunted headgear and let himself get bodied.
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Still doesn't negate the fact he still is fighting with the world champion.
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