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Gilgamesh vs Yuuki Kagurazaka
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Phantasm Punishment and Gae Dearg bypass the level since they normalize the state of being of those they hurt. Gae Dearg works by "lowering the health bar" of those it damages. Their wounds cannot heal because that is their default state now.RM97 said:
Phantasm Punishment attacks with the concepts of severing and binding. While it applies these concepts to those is effects, the reason you cannot heals from it is because it attacks the internal energy networks of its targets and then "heals" them in a way that they become unusable. Even if you can deal with the resulting necrosis, the nerve damage you will suffer cannot be restored because it is already restored, just restored wrong.
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Phantasm Punishment and Gae Dearg bypass the level since they normalize the state of being of those they hurt. Gae Dearg works by "lowering the health bar" of those it damages. Their wounds cannot heal because that is their default state now.
Phantasm Punishment attacks with the concepts of severing and binding. While it applies these concepts to those is effects, the reason you cannot heals from it is because it attacks the internal energy networks of its targets and then "heals" them in a way that they become unusable. Even if you can deal with the resulting necrosis, the nerve damage you will suffer cannot be restored because it is already restored, just restored wrong.
First two are basically Info Manip which I'm sure Yuuki resists considering Cook does the same thing in TSSDK.
Phantasm Punishment attacks with the concepts of severing and binding. While it applies these concepts to those is effects, the reason you cannot heals from it is because it attacks the internal energy networks of its targets and then "heals" them in a way that they become unusable. Even if you can deal with the resulting necrosis, the nerve damage you will suffer cannot be restored because it is already restored, just restored wrong.
First two are basically Info Manip which I'm sure Yuuki resists considering Cook does the same thing in TSSDK.
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The ones that I mentioned above work in ways that it should not matter if it is low regen or mid godly regen. From the list I mentioned, they are, conceptual, modified the default state of being, is conceptual and heals the target wrong, and applies natural properties to the target respectivelyMilly Rocking Bandit said:
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Yuuki can do that with Cook, nor now the better Susanoo, which manipulates Casuality, which he's getting a corresponding resistance to.
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The ones that I mentioned above work in ways that it should not matter if it is low regen or mid godly regen. From the list I mentioned, they are, conceptual, modified the default state of being, is conceptual and heals the target wrong, and applies natural properties to the target respectively
If it work on mid godly why His Resistance negation is not up to mid godly? Make CRT and then come here with that argument
If it work on mid godly why His Resistance negation is not up to mid godly? Make CRT and then come here with that argument
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How would it deal with Yuuki's Conceptual Mid-Godly Regen Negating Beeleezbub? As to which it can absorp conceptual entities, abstracts, and things stronger than the host. It can also sprout from any part of Yuuki's body, btw.
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Gilgamesh pulls MEoDP out of GoB and cuts the lines of death of Beelzebub
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Gilgamesh pulls out Ryougi to cut him herself so he can rest.
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Since Beelzebub exists within Yuuki's Nucleic Heart, something within his soul, I doubt he'd be getting there. Plus, he should resist conceptual manipulation via scaling from Velgrynd, who was able to resist Beelzebub.
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"pulls out MEoDP"
Please tell me this was a joke.
"pulls out MEoDP"
Please tell me this was a joke.
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Is that out of character for Gilgamesh?
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Being able to eat a type 2 abtract is just NPI tho
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They're also conceptual.
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What ?Monarch Laciel said:
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It will never be as good as "pulls SBA out of GoB"
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Still just NPI i thinkMilly Rocking Bandit said:
Also MEoDP can bypass Avalon, which is a low 1-C defence, so they are 6-D death hax i think, but i am not sure
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I don't believe it is. Do you have proof hitting concepts is just NPI?
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D&D characters have NPI for being able to hit a nonexistant conceptual being with magic, but most of them don't have conceptual manipulation
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Then that is a very specific and powerful form of NPI. Normal NPI cannot hit an abstract
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I mean... Beelzebub has been shown to eat concepts so... and abstracts.
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Gilgamesh has shown to have things other than weapons inside the GoB, as shown when he pulled out True Nines Lives, which is a tecniqueGLHF22 said:
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He said he doesn't have God Hand, not Nine Lives
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Gil could just pull out saber diarmuid's sword which has the exact same effects as MEoDP
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MEoDPOverlord775 said:
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Eyes
Not treasures. Gil does not have a pair of Mystic Eyes in his treasury and even if he did, unless he performs an eye transplant on himself right there and then including syncing up magic circuits, he couldn't use it
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Assuming Yuuki doesn't see this coming with Precog + Info Analysis, which gives him the rundown on how his sword would even work. Then resists it with resistance to Life & Death Manipulation.Paul Frank said:
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Pretty sure MEoDP and that sword kinda ignore that resistance
Also I'm pretty sure Gil resists info analysis and or precog above what Yuuki has
Also I'm pretty sure Gil resists info analysis and or precog above what Yuuki has
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Yuuki's info analysis and precog works on Type 4 Acasuality and people who have resistances to them.
Do you have proof it ignores it?
Do you have proof it ignores it?
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Gilgamehs could also pull out Decise Third Stage Slash, which erases things to a level beyond Yuuki's resistance and regen
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Do you have proof of this?
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Well for instance Souren has Death Manipulation resistance from having the ashes of the buddah and all that was able to do was make it slightly harder to see his lines of death
Also literally everything in fgo has death manip resistance and the sword still works on them
Also literally everything in fgo has death manip resistance and the sword still works on them
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Okay, so does all Ultimate Skill Users, yet Yuuki's potency>their resistance.
