Gildarts vs Issei

[CNBA3]

Natsu's powers are AP tho

Natsu's flames are known hax as well, to burn away other magics, including other haxes

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Gildarts hit Natsu with Disassembly, not his flames. Natsu got nerfed and his AP went down his hax is still fine.

 

[CNBA3]

his hax did not do anything against Gildarts even afte being disassembled, he even disassembled his flame as well, that is why it is high level hax as well

 

[DragonEmperor23]

There's no proof that Natsu's ability to powernull was also downsized.

 

[CNBA3]

if it was the case then he would have burned away the disassembly magic that was effecting him, like when he was being erased from existance, was still burnt away.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

not after he was downsized

 

[CNBA3]

even before downsized was he effected

 

[AnonymousBlank]

his hax did not do anything against Gildarts even afte being disassembled, he even disassembled his flame as well, that is why it is high level hax as well

You say this as if his hax got stronger after being disassembled despite arguing the opposite in your previous posts. If your arguments contradict themselves, they are clearly wrong.

 

[CNBA3]

No, what I am trying to say is that even before the disassembly magic, his hax did nothing, clearly they got weaker after the disassembly

 

[Demonicjester01]

Going back to the voting, since the current topic is on the unlikely (as explained through look at Issei's arsenal) case that Issei gets hit by disassemble, my vote is for Issei. Just to make it clear, since I don't think the discussion can go much deeper than it already has gone. It's just a matter of which side is more convincing.

 

[CNBA3]

I am saying that it depends on who gets hit by who's hax first

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If it does nothing before, then how can you say it got weaker after the disassemble?

 

[CNBA3]

because it is a demonstration of the overwhelming difference in power between them, Natsu used smarts rather than power

 

[AnonymousBlank]

>Talking about hax

>Brings up power

Nani dafuq???

 

[CNBA3]

hax is part of his power, hense why i said power

 

[Demonicjester01]

If speed is equalized, one party has flight, over two casting areas for their hax among others while the other does not, I am pretty sure the former will be the one to hit their hax first.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Blank, I do think ignoring at this point is better. What he says is bollocks anyway so it doesn't matter.

Who do you vote for?

 

[CNBA3]

I do not see any reason flight should really be a factor if speed is equalized though

 

[AnonymousBlank]

I believe Issei stomps so no vote from me.

 

[CNBA3]

back to the vote then, Gildarts for me

 

[Demonicjester01]

Flight is a factor since it offers a new dimension for the movement. That's like saying if speed is equalized between two flightless guys then it doesn't matter if one can only move forward and backward.

 

[CNBA3]

but speed is equalized though, that would mean flight speed would still be the same as ground movement

 

[Demonicjester01]

It's still the same speed of course, but there is much more movement range. That is very relevant, mobility is not all about speed. Once again, if speed is equalized, would you say two flightless guys are in the same condition if one can only move forward and backward and not sideways?

 

[CNBA3]

but that doesn't mean Gildarts can't just aim for the sky though

 

[Demonicjester01]

Gildarts can aim for the sky, but that's not the issue here. Issei can dodge both in the ground and by flying, there's much more dodging space than what GIldarts has, since he doesn't have flight.

 

[CNBA3]

that doesn't he can't dodge though, so it comes down to who can land their hax abilities first.

 

[Demonicjester01]

You're not getting me. Issei has more mobility than Gildarts because, their speed being the same, he has flight while Gildarts doesn't. And Issei also has more casting areas for his hax than his hands. Due to this, the probability that Issei will land his hax first are higher.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Demonic, by this point I think it's really futile. What I advise best is to ignore, because it leads nowhere honestly.