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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

This needs a scan, and being born from 2 guys doesn't equate to Unity at all?


Yeah that can just be them talking about 2 different guys in the same sentence. Its also stated the Source is simply a manifestation of the Presence's power which is supported here
OK, in the first one, the sentence is constructed less like two people and more like from two titles for one person

"Born from the Source, from the Presence" works more like it's one person, two titles being clarified.

Imagine if someone said, say Stayne, was born "From the Omega. From Darkseid". See how that one works?
 
@Lloydblitzed

Hey, great work on this physiology page so far, what are you plans with it? (e.g. are you taking from every era of DC, N52-Infinite Frontier etc. Any cool abilities you plan to put on it that aren't the typical "heat vision, cold breath, enhances senses" etc?)

I got the motivation to continue this page I def didn't forget about now😭
 
yeah bc Source is a manifestation of the Presence which makes sense

Im being honest that sounds like saying Apple = Banana bc they are both fruits
Well it's vague to claim that so, I won't blame but there's no factual evidence but it can only make sense between evidences like, they shared same functionality as manifestations, even in their true forms.

it's unlike what u thought of. I've already provided the functions of Source and Presence almost being same, esepcially both of them dispatching Perpetua to created multiverse,manifesting themselves into multiverse to keep balance and sitting as the highest being of the greater omniverse.
 
Yeah that can just be them talking about 2 different guys in the same sentence. Its also stated the Source is simply a manifestation of the Presence's power which is supported here
The Highfather scan doesn’t mention the Presence. It just refers to a “creator” which doesn’t automatically equate to the Presence at all. Also the power in that story was the Godwave, which is a byproduct of the Source, and not the Source itself. The Godwave is what created the Gods basically and also gave rise to super powers in the universe. The Presence was said in that story to have the highest concentration of the Godwave making his power more than that of the other Gods who had lesser portions, hence why Chronus wanted to steal it. So this scan would just lend credence to the idea that the Presence is a byproduct of the Source and not the other way around.
 
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Looking at both of the top 15 threads, I'm surprised Pralaya (Avatar) isn't on either of the lists. Isn't she the strongest High 1-A currently for DC? I'm not sure how the High 1-A+ stuff works, in regard to smurfs, but if it's allowed. Shouldn't she be like number one or two? I haven't been keeping up with the recent tier changes to DC, admittedly.
 
Looking at both of the top 15 threads, I'm surprised Pralaya (Avatar) isn't on either of the lists. Isn't she the strongest High 1-A currently for DC? I'm not sure how the High 1-A+ stuff works, in regard to smurfs, but if it's allowed. Shouldn't she be like number one or two? I haven't been keeping up with the recent tier changes to DC, admittedly.
Yeah, her avatar as I mentioned previously is infinite layers into High 1-A.
 
The Highfather scan doesn’t mention the Presence. It just refers to a “creator” which doesn’t automatically equate to the Presence at all. Also the power in that story was the Godwave, which is a byproduct of the Source, and not the Source itself. The Godwave is what created the Gods basically and also gave rise to super powers in the universe. The Presence was said in that story to have the highest concentration of the Godwave making his power more than that of the other Gods who had lesser portions, hence why Chronus wanted to steal it. So this scan would just lend credence to the idea that the Presence is a byproduct of the Source and not the other way around.
It does not at all elude that the Presence was a byproduct of the Source. Cool headcanon which doesn’t live up to the current understanding. However, prior to Cronus taking power everything was a theory about the nature of the Presence including the understanding that it had the highest concentration of Godwave. In the end, we see that the Presence was all, sees all, and beyond all. Since you make the claim it would be a byproduct of the Source. I will make the statement it contains the Source as well.
 
He deals with that on the regular. Pretty safe to say, John wins.

Let's try getting John another w!
 
I'll be trying to pull a fight for classic Constantine but took a time to read the profile for the Post-FP one and...


So he has the Demon Blood or not? Or is it up to interpretation/matchmaking? Also how can someone decide if he has or not something when...


...it is not in his equipment or separating keys off of him?
Also bump
 
It should be noted Superman used Super Flare a few times in the (hrg) Bendis run without being depowered.


Such as here against Rogul Zaar. And Here against the Phantom Zoners. And begins powering one up here
"Higher via Super Flare" seems okay for the Solar System Supers since their tier doesn't really change, preferably a value should be placed under this so the extent is known.
"Multi Galaxy via Super Flare" seems okay for the Galaxy Supers since their tier changes, value should be here as well.
 
I might be stupid but is the Long Halloween Storyline, Year One and The Collected Legends of the Dark Knight canon to the main earth? Or are they all Elseworlds? I know in the Collected Legends they have different Batmen with different writer's takes (one of them was a story about Bat-Mite trolling a drug addict funnily enough).

Or is it moreso parts of Year One and the Long Halloween are kinda sorta canon but not all of it?
 
Wouldn't Emperor Joker be High 1-A due to most of the writing coming from DeMatteis?
If we take Satanus statement as true, Joker only affected one plane of creation. He did however have more power than Matrix Supergirl, who's a Shining one. The problem would be where to place the 5th Dimension in all of this though. Depending on its placement, Joker and Mxy could be anywhere from 1-A to possibly High 1-A.
 
If we take Satanus statement as true, Joker only affected one plane of creation. He did however have more power than Matrix Supergirl, who's a Shining one. The problem would be where to place the 5th Dimension in all of this though. Depending on its placement, Joker and Mxy could be anywhere from 1-A to possibly High 1-A.
The Fifth Dimension logically scales above the material plane. So it would be at least High 1-A in that regard.
The Spectre prime should get 1A rating atleast from Demattis cosmology
At the very least. Though, I don't really think it's necessary to include a key for Spectre. DeMatteis happened to use Spectre, it was not a creation of his and isn't really unique to his cosmology.
 
Though, I don't really think it's necessary to include a key for Spectre. DeMatteis happened to use Spectre, it was not a creation of his and isn't really unique to his cosmology.
Will Spectre get an upgrade in the future? It's jarring to see one key in his profile be 1-B and the rest are stuck at somewhere in 1-C or 2-C with one 4-B
 
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