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is batman knocking guy gardner out in one considered a feat on here ?
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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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Pretty sure Guy was off guard, nor was he using his ring.
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Not really, in my opinion. Guy took off his ring
Wrrrryyyy12
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got it
i never read the comic it originally happens in
just assumed guy wore his ring pretty much all the time
i never read the comic it originally happens in
just assumed guy wore his ring pretty much all the time
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Sodam Yat
Sodam Yat is a prophesied future member of the Green Lantern Corps. He is mentioned in passing to Abin Sur by a demon named Qull of the Five Inversions, who had been imprisoned on the planet Ysmault by the Guardians of the Universe. As a Daxamite (a race with inherent Kryptonian-like powers)...
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the characters he is compared to are
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He's not updated yetSodam Yat
Sodam Yat is a prophesied future member of the Green Lantern Corps. He is mentioned in passing to Abin Sur by a demon named Qull of the Five Inversions, who had been imprisoned on the planet Ysmault by the Guardians of the Universe. As a Daxamite (a race with inherent Kryptonian-like powers)...
the characters he is compared to are
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/superboy-post-crisis-small-updates-dc.166733/#post-6546698 a few of us were discussing conner kent/kon-el superboy
i felt that it may be important to get more opinions on the matter
kon was unchanged by the new 52 and while the dc wiki speculates that new 52 superboy and post crisis superboy may have combined there has been 0 textual evidence to say so
I do not think he should get something thats based purely on speculation rather than facts said in text
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should post crisis superboys feats from recent titles be on his page or a new one ?
because current conner like i mentioned at the start
Was not changed by new 52
i felt that it may be important to get more opinions on the matter
kon was unchanged by the new 52 and while the dc wiki speculates that new 52 superboy and post crisis superboy may have combined there has been 0 textual evidence to say so
I do not think he should get something thats based purely on speculation rather than facts said in text
and also
should post crisis superboys feats from recent titles be on his page or a new one ?
because current conner like i mentioned at the start
Was not changed by new 52
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As of right now, his new feats are on his current page, but I do not know if that will change or not
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yeah and i agree with them being there
since conner wasnt affected by flashpoint
post crisis conner has no reason to be moved to a different page
its just that other users thought he would need different stuff based simply upon another wikis speculation
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I have read Waid's latest issue of "World's Finest", and it seems like this is what he was mainly aiming for, which is perfectly fine, my remaining personal disapproval of Waid's "Irredeemable" and "Incorruptible" stories notwithstanding, and the initial "Annual" chapter of this story with the imps representing rowdy fans of various characters who keep fighting about which of them that is the "best", and Bat-Mite vainly trying to keep them somewhat in order, and Mxyzptlk rolling his eyes at the mess, was kind of funny. I think that it sort of reflects the goofy state of our community here.
Of course the villain of the story, somebody who wants to be the "best", but cannot achieve it in the real world and as such turns his fictional input into an amoral power-fantasy, seems somewhat misaimed. Sure, you can put blame on the people being indoctrinated, but the much bigger problems are the people who perform the indoctrination, whether by writing stories with horribly amoral and morbid thematics and messaging, or by directly acting as outright malevolent media demogogues.
Then again, the villain does look similar to Nerdrotic, who actually has turned his fan toxicity into destructive media demagoguery, so he would combine both sides of the problem, in which case I really agree with Waid's assessment.
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Also, another note that I have actually enjoyed much of Tom King's current Wonder Woman story, both in terms of thematics and characterisation.
I still strongly dislike what King did to the Wally West Flash and Booster Gold though, and have the impression that he may have deconstructed and mutilated Adam Strange, Mister Miracle, and possibly Batman, as well.
I still strongly dislike what King did to the Wally West Flash and Booster Gold though, and have the impression that he may have deconstructed and mutilated Adam Strange, Mister Miracle, and possibly Batman, as well.
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Batman’s entire Rogues Gallery vs Spider-Man
With the exception of The Batman Who Laughs and Barbatos Rules Both Spider-Man and his opponents have an hour of prep time. Spider-Man is bloodlusted. Starting distance: 4 kilometers apart. Location: Gotham City speed = Gotham Rogues The Joker Scarecrow Firefly Harley Quinn 20 Talons Owlman...
Wrrrryyyy12
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hope someone scales main continuity Miss Martian
its odd having her tv counterpart but not her
its odd having her tv counterpart but not her
Wrrrryyyy12
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since its clear all history is canon again how exactly would that work (i aint doing all the stuff that makes her get a page as im more of a observer)
but would it be similar to character keys instead of separate pages ?
like if someone made a page would it be pre-flashpoint and post-flashpoint if there was a significant leap in power ? (i dont think she got much stronger im just wondering)
but would it be similar to character keys instead of separate pages ?
like if someone made a page would it be pre-flashpoint and post-flashpoint if there was a significant leap in power ? (i dont think she got much stronger im just wondering)
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So, question, is this enough to get a possible Resistance to Statistical Analysis rating?
During Captain Atom: Armageddon, despite fighting Midnighter several times, Captain Atom seems to not be effected by the Fight computer with Midnighter failing to anticipate him again and again.
During Captain Atom: Armageddon, despite fighting Midnighter several times, Captain Atom seems to not be effected by the Fight computer with Midnighter failing to anticipate him again and again.
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How does Midnighter's stat analysis work?
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His fight computer runs a million combat scenarios and gives him the best way to react so he can get the best possible future he wants. This includes their powers.
However, as shown, Captain Atom keeps surprising and stomping him and he didn't know Captain Atom's powers, merely guessing they're atomic (they're quantum)
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Ig it's legit?
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I'll make a thread
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Captain Atom resistance to Statistical Analysis
During Captain Atom: Armageddon, despite fighting Midnighter several times, Captain Atom seems to not be effected by the Fight computer with Midnighter failing to anticipate him again and again. Midnighter's fight computer runs a million combat scenarios and gives him the best way to react so...
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Are Batman characters actually Class M? Dick Grayson for example was able to hold up an Orca's jaws which translates to him holding up a pressure of 131000388.5708 N/m^2
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How was that calc'd? Are we saying real life orcas have Class M jaws? That seems kind of ridiculous.
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Well, an orca's jaws can apply a pressure of 19,000 PSI, which can be converted to the value above
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I believe bite force isn't measured by the movement of the jaws, but by the force generated between the teeth and the measuring device. This distinction would change the feat I think. Calc group member could clarify there.
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I don't know how that conversion works, but there is no conceivable way for an animal that size to produce that much energy. Like, not even remotely close.
This article estimates the Orca's bite force in Newtons at 85k. It references other animals like the Australian saltwater crocodile at 12k newtons, the Great White at 18k Newtons, the T-Rex at 35k Newtons, and a Megalodon at 182k newtons.
This would make the Orca's bite at Class 10. Around 100x lower than Class M.
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Because is not a measure of energy, but of pressure.
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I understand. Hagane was proposing that it could be converted to "Class M" which is a measure of force. I imagine it might be something along the lines of calculating the full area of an Orca's mouth and multiplying the 19k value over that entire area, but I don't know the specifics. My main point was that this process leads to bad results.
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We use pressure for lifting strength.
Dick wouldn't scale anyway because he's not withstanding nor is he forcing open the teeth area (as bite force specifically measures the pressure generated by the masticatory muscles and not just the jaws), but holding open the entire mouth. Notable feat, definitely wouldn't be Class M.
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The Lifting Strength page references force, not force over area. "Lifting Strength measures the amount of mass they can lift, which is determined by the amount of force a character can produce." The table also references newtons, not PSI.
I agree Dick doesn't scale, but even if he did it would merely be Class 10. If academic resources characterize the force of an Orca bite at 85,000 N, but we instead try to calc from PSI and end up with a result 100x higher, whatever method we are using to convert PSI to force is extremely wrong.
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Ah, I see what your problem is. Hagane just converted PSI to newton/meters. He hasn't converted it to force.
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If Dick had pried open the jaws by holding the Orca from the teeth, then we could measure the force he's exerting.
But that's not exactly what he's doing. He wouldn't even scale to the 83k newton afaik. Probably should ask a calc group member how to handle the feat there.
But that's not exactly what he's doing. He wouldn't even scale to the 83k newton afaik. Probably should ask a calc group member how to handle the feat there.
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Actually, looking at the scan again, what Dick did was simply hold on to the Orca while it lounged at him. Notice how next panel he's dangling to the side of its mouth, carried by the orca. There's no feat in the first place.
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This was the panel just before though:
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Did you meant to link something else? Because that pretty much confirmed my suspicion. Dick diving, the orca going at him, he grabbed onto it before it could bite him.
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I can't find a link to Detective Comics #878 that won't give me computer virus
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You can try using the "Brave" internet browser combined with Bitdefender or Avast Antivirus with the web browsing protection enabled and "read comics online . ru ".
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I'm not sure if that would work or not, most programmers now are reccomending not to get any VPN, anti-virus, or security browser as they don't work anymore.
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I was right. Got the pages before the "feat" and after. Dick was tied up and got dropped in the tank. He grabbed on to the orca to use its teeth to free himself.
