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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

Antvasima said:
I also think that we should delete the composite God character for DC Comics and The Writer self-insert.
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Then can we just do it already? God (DC Comics) (And its redirects at The Oversoul, The Creator (DC Comics), and The One Above All (DC Comics)), Template:God (DC Comics), and The Writer should all be deleted. This note on Editing Rules would also need to be revised:
  • Preferably avoid creating any supposedly "all-powerful" 4th wall-breaking real life author avatar characters, or author avatars in general. Before doing so, please read our Reality-Fiction Transcendence guidelines, and try to evaluate if the character in question is significant within its story. Meaningless 4th wall breaking, and winks at the audience, do not equate tier 0 in any way, shape, or form, and can potentially open doors for new members to start looking at real life humans as an "omnipotent species" that can fight with ideas, words, and pictures. Exceptions have been made for Andrew Hussie, and "The Writer" of DC Comics. The former was not played as an invincible character within Homestuck, whereas the second has been established as an inseparable part of Grant Morrison's DC cosmology, and is ranked extremely high, not for being an author avatar, but for its established role in comparison to everything else within the franchise. Nevertheless, it is very unwise to allow too many explicit author avatars, as they severely blur the line between fiction and reality.
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I would also prefer that we take this opportunity to delete all the Test: pages that link to these pages, though only two have such links.
 
Only the God, The Writer, and the DC God template pages, and we also need to remove the links to them, but the second part might be best handled by @Elizio33, @Deagonx, or @Firestorm808 .
 
They can also be deleted. My apologies for not catching that initially. 🙏
 
Antvasima said:
Thanks a lot for helping out. 🙏

@Elizio33 @Firestorm808 @LuciferDC099 @Deagonx @PrinceofPein

Would you be willing to help handle the following links please?

Pages that link to "God (DC Comics)" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

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Pages that link to "The Writer" | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom

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Sure, I will take care of it
You need to unlock the following pages
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Monitor-Mind The Overvoid

Monitor-Mind the Overvoid is the void of absolute nothingness that encompasses creation, standing outside of its deepest reaches, beyond all dual concepts and the stories which form around them, being the crumbling point in which all things cease to be, and the background of all stories and...
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The Presence

The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. Although his power is virtually unparalleled, he rarely interferes in the affairs of mortals directly, instead acting through agents and aspects of...
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The Source

The Source is a metaphysical concept created by writer/artist Jack Kirby for his Fourth World series of comic books. It first appeared in New Gods #1 (February 1971). It is the source of all that exists. Mostly associated with the New Gods, the Source was the supposed origin of the Godwave that...
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God

God (as a name) may refer to: Book Depictions The Aleph Comic Book and Webcomic Depictions: Hellper Spawn Live Action Depictions: Arrowverse Bruce Almighty / Evan Almighty Good Omens Preacher Supernatural Traditional Game Depictions: World of Darkness Video Game Depictions: Epic Battle Fantasy...
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Editing Rules

The VS Battles Wiki presently consists of 35,511 pages, most of them listing the statistics of characters across different fictional franchises. However, there is a tremendous amount of work involved in maintaining the accuracy of statistics and upholding a high quality for the profiles. In...
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Also we will need to change this
  • Preferably avoid creating any supposedly "all-powerful" 4th wall-breaking real life author avatar characters, or author avatars in general. Before doing so, please read our Reality-Fiction Transcendence guidelines, and try to evaluate if the character in question is significant within its story. Meaningless 4th wall breaking, and winks at the audience, do not equate tier 0 in any way, shape, or form, and can potentially open doors for new members to start looking at real life humans as an "omnipotent species" that can fight with ideas, words, and pictures. Exceptions have been made for Andrew Hussie, and "The Writer" of DC Comics. The former was not played as an invincible character within Homestuck, whereas the second has been established as an inseparable part of Grant Morrison's DC cosmology, and is ranked extremely high, not for being an author avatar, but for its established role in comparison to everything else within the franchise. Nevertheless, it is very unwise to allow too many explicit author avatars, as they severely blur the line between fiction and reality.
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We remove the part about the writer entirely and add a new example in a CRT, I can make one later
 
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Antvasima said:
I made some adjustments. I hope that they are accurate.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Monitor-Mind_The_Overvoid?type=revision&diff=8014516&oldid=8014502

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Presence?type=revision&diff=8014510&oldid=8014489

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Source?type=revision&diff=8014504&oldid=8014486
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The Monitor's own is fine but the other two, while they are of no consequences, they are fine on the profile since they are indeed one of the manifestation of God. I do not mind either way though
 
Well, should we rewrite the initial text in The Presence's page, given that he is based on the Vertigo cosmology, whereas The Source and The Overvoid are scaled from the Morrison cosmology?

Other similar mentions might also have to be rewritten.
 
Antvasima said:
The Presence's page, given that he is based on the Vertigo cosmology, whereas The Source and The Overvoid are scaled from the Morrison cosmology?
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The Presence is a bit of an exception in that he appears quite predominantly at the top of all three, whereas the Overvoid didn't exist in Vertigo or Dematteis and the Source was only briefly mentioned in Vertigo
 
Antvasima said:
I have modified our editing rules, and do not think that we need to add another example without very good reasons for it.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Editing_Rules?type=revision&diff=8014481&oldid=8006623

I unlocked the other pages you linked to that weren't unlocked already.
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I reformatted the pages a bit. Also, I rewrote the note to format it better:
*Do not make highly-rated profiles for supposedly "all-powerful" fourth-wall-breaking author avatar characters without evaluating and scrutinizing the character's narrative significance. Meaningless [[Breaking the Fourth Wall|fourth-wall-breaking]] and winks at the audience are never enough to qualify a character for high Tier 1 and Tier 0 ratings. However, such a character ''can'' receive high tiers with sufficient evidence; [[Andrew Hussie]] is an example of a character who qualifies for such a tier despite these strict rules due to substantive in-universe context. Nevertheless, allowing too many explicit author avatars is unwise, as they severely blur the line between fiction and reality and can open doors for new members to start looking at real-life humans as an "omnipotent species" that can fight with ideas, words, and pictures; the [[Reality-Fiction Transcendence]] page explains this reasoning in more detail.
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I think that your new wording seems good. What do other staff members here think?
 
For the past months I've been reading about Batman and everything related to him, be it his villains or the Batfamily. With the amount of sheer content I've saved, I realized I can't do it all by myself and I want help.

So I asking if anyone here could help me with editting? You don't really need to know a lot about it, just basic stuff. Just letting you know that it's massive.
 
M3X_2.0 said:
For the past months I've been reading about Batman and everything related to him, be it his villains or the Batfamily. With the amount of sheer content I've saved, I realized I can't do it all by myself and I want help.

So I asking if anyone here could help me with editting? You don't really need to know a lot about it, just basic stuff. Just letting you know that it's massive.
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Could you be more specific? Your request is a bit vague.
 
I wanted to enter in more specific details before people agreed to help but here it comes:

Basically take everything from this sandbox and translate to our wiki format such as links and references and put them here.
 
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