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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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dimensions in these scans mean universes
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3rd one is usable
Also I really hope not every third post on this thread is cosmology related. That shit sucks.
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Yes, agreed. It is like Marvel's old convention to call magical universes "dimensions" instead.
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I am pretty positive heaven is supposed to be a high 1-A structure.
Like that shit holds creation and transcends its nature and existence
An already 1-A hierarchy
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im using appeal to popularity thats why i said its dumb
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frman high 1-A death would have been so cool
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Leaving aside the cosmology side, I was wondering, why is anti monitor's file so badly formatted?
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Anti-Monitor
No hope. No mercy. The universe you knew is nothing but a memory and I have no intention of leaving anyone alive to honor it. The Anti-Monitor, real name Mobius, is one of the three sons of Perpetua, created when she tore pieces from the Overvoid to shape into her children. He existed before the...
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The price of being such an old characterLeaving aside the cosmology side, I was wondering, why is anti monitor's file so badly formatted?
Anti-Monitor
No hope. No mercy. The universe you knew is nothing but a memory and I have no intention of leaving anyone alive to honor it. The Anti-Monitor, real name Mobius, is one of the three sons of Perpetua, created when she tore pieces from the Overvoid to shape into her children. He existed before the...
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Feel free to improve on it if you wish.Leaving aside the cosmology side, I was wondering, why is anti monitor's file so badly formatted?
Anti-Monitor
No hope. No mercy. The universe you knew is nothing but a memory and I have no intention of leaving anyone alive to honor it. The Anti-Monitor, real name Mobius, is one of the three sons of Perpetua, created when she tore pieces from the Overvoid to shape into her children. He existed before the...
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Why would the 3rd one be usable? It also talks about parallel universes. "Worlds beyond worlds" imply it's talking about universes, not spatiotemporal dimensions.
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No, not yet. Maybe later this week.
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1A baseline
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Placing this here for attention
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Weren't you gonna do that smh
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Thank you for the information.
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Oh yeah....I was meant to do that. I just need some motivation lol
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Make it or I steal all of your food >:]
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That's some evil shit mann
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That's why you gotta make it smh
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Only aplies for Pre-Crisis cosmology.
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This is Pre-Crisis cosmology, which has nothing to do with DC's later cosmologies or any other fictional cosmology on how they treat the concept of "dimension".
In Pre-Crisis cosmology, the meaning of "dimension" left no room for ambiguity after the release Flash #123, establishing that all physical universes (Earth-1, Earth-2, etc.) exist in a larger Multiverse, all in the same space and time, but differing only in frequency.
One can argue that the 2nd scan refers to physical universes, but not the 1st scan despite the use of the terms "parallel dimensions" (Pre-Crisis 5th dimension was also described in this way), even less regarding the 3rd and 4th scans establishing a vertical hierarchy between these dimensions.
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If the Pre-Crisis DC Comics multiverse contained many ascending degrees of infinity, the Anti-Monitor wouldn't have been able to destroy it by just consuming all of the physical universes within it.
Also, I think that Myxyzptlk's 5th Dimension was first established to be two degrees of infinity and geometry superior to regule 3-D beings during "Crisis Time Five" around 1998.
Also, I think that Myxyzptlk's 5th Dimension was first established to be two degrees of infinity and geometry superior to regule 3-D beings during "Crisis Time Five" around 1998.
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Pre-Crisis cosmology was not only infinite in one parameter, but many others including universes and timelines.
The near destruction of the Pre-Crisis is very well documented, and trying to correlate it to a mere cosmology parameter is simplifying the issue of this event which would have to the same effect/outcome regarldess of the cause. In other words, Anti-Monitor would have still destroyed Pre-Crisis cosmology regardless, that's why he was even able to reduce an infinite number of universes into 1 in the first place as it was a decision from DC itself to transition to a new cosmology/narrative framework, not based on any logical principle.
This is missing the point that is being made.
The point is not about the scale gap in level between each dimension, but how many there were in Pre-Crisis cosmology. Two different things are being addressed there.
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But to respond the off-topic point made previously:
There was already an ontological hierarchy between all n-dimensional beings long before Grant Morrison's contribution to the matter. As Mxyzptlk stated about his powers in relation to dimensions lower than his own:
In any case, this fact and the fact that Pre-Crisis cosmology did indeed have an infinite number of dimensions should not be relevant for the next DC revision.
There was already an ontological hierarchy between all n-dimensional beings long before Grant Morrison's contribution to the matter. As Mxyzptlk stated about his powers in relation to dimensions lower than his own:
In any case, this fact and the fact that Pre-Crisis cosmology did indeed have an infinite number of dimensions should not be relevant for the next DC revision.
